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  <title type="text">diagrams-discuss Google Group</title>
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  A mailing list for discussing the Haskell diagrams library, which provides an embedded domain-specific language for describing and rendering diagrams, illustrations, and other graphics.
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  <updated>2013-05-21T01:27:31Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Brent Yorgey</name>
  <email>byor...@seas.upenn.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-21T01:27:31Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/a6d54c3cebfbeafc/6438cd43ebde6b20?show_docid=6438cd43ebde6b20</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/a6d54c3cebfbeafc/6438cd43ebde6b20?show_docid=6438cd43ebde6b20"/>
  <title type="text">Re: using Names</title>
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  Yeah, I guess it could end up being surprising either way. But I &lt;br&gt; think if we want to have things like connections between named points &lt;br&gt; which track changes to the location of the points, it will have to &lt;br&gt; wait until we have some sort of system in place for handling diagram &lt;br&gt; layout via constraint solving. For now the simplest solution (lines
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  <author>
  <name>Adrian May</name>
  <email>adrian.alexander....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-16T12:44:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d67731f6bf8c9214/da39a6b1344efc1d?show_docid=da39a6b1344efc1d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d67731f6bf8c9214/da39a6b1344efc1d?show_docid=da39a6b1344efc1d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [Haskell-beginners] Diagrams brain twister</title>
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  Wow, Thanks! That&#39;s precisely what I was after, in extreme detail. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Adrian.
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  <author>
  <name>Luc Taesch</name>
  <email>luc.tae...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-16T12:40:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/6a98b7d0936c57f9/847ebac3dd96f07e?show_docid=847ebac3dd96f07e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/6a98b7d0936c57f9/847ebac3dd96f07e?show_docid=847ebac3dd96f07e"/>
  <title type="text">just found that video 4mn, on an agile small talk visualization engine</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  when looking for agile visualization, &lt;br&gt; just found that video 4mn, on an agile small talk visualization engine &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Roassal is an agile visualization engine. Roassal graphically renders objects using short and expressive Smalltalk expressions. A large set of interaction are offered for a better user experience. Painting, brushing, interconnecting, zooming, drag and dropping will just make you more intimate with any arbitrary object model.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brent Yorgey</name>
  <email>byor...@seas.upenn.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-15T16:21:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d67731f6bf8c9214/368d5bfadcd88722?show_docid=368d5bfadcd88722</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d67731f6bf8c9214/368d5bfadcd88722?show_docid=368d5bfadcd88722"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [Haskell-beginners] Diagrams brain twister</title>
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  Hi Adrian, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Actually, diagrams provides some tools specifically for accomplishing &lt;br&gt; this kind of thing, so it is not that bad. (This question would &lt;br&gt; probably be more appropriate on the diagrams mailing list---it has to &lt;br&gt; do with the workings of diagrams in particular and not much to do with &lt;br&gt; Haskell in general---so I&#39;m also cc&#39;ing that mailing list. Luckily I
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Lato</name>
  <email>jwl...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-15T03:02:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/9cf8cca992ba266f?show_docid=9cf8cca992ba266f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/9cf8cca992ba266f?show_docid=9cf8cca992ba266f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] using Names</title>
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  Thanks for this explanation; I had assumed it was possible and I just would &lt;br&gt; need to write that function myself. I think it&#39;s just &amp;quot;think hard and bang &lt;br&gt; out code&amp;quot; tricky, but it also might lead to diagrams not working as &lt;br&gt; expected. Consider this case: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; - create a diagram with two named Subdiagrams
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brent Yorgey</name>
  <email>byor...@seas.upenn.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-14T17:23:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/ad2e293f690afcc9?show_docid=ad2e293f690afcc9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/ad2e293f690afcc9?show_docid=ad2e293f690afcc9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] using Names</title>
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  Yeah, currently there is no functionality to let you modify a &lt;br&gt; subdiagram, although I have certainly considered it before. It&#39;s &lt;br&gt; tricky. Off the top of my head I do not know/remember whether it is &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;major redesign&amp;quot;- tricky or just &amp;quot;someone needs to sit down and think &lt;br&gt; hard for a bit and bang out the code&amp;quot;-tricky. The problem is that
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Lato</name>
  <email>jwl...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-05-14T13:29:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/6fbac899b164b099?show_docid=6fbac899b164b099</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a5f18567c10445/6fbac899b164b099?show_docid=6fbac899b164b099"/>
  <title type="text">using Names</title>
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  Hello, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have a project for which I&#39;d like to do something like the following: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;and later, be able to apply attributes to the named components directly, &lt;br&gt; something like &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;to set the line color of the named subdiagram. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Is there a good way to do this currently? withName is close, but it
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  <author>
  <name>Jan Bracker</name>
  <email>jan.brac...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-30T15:50:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/4036e03c6bf7ea20?show_docid=4036e03c6bf7ea20</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/4036e03c6bf7ea20?show_docid=4036e03c6bf7ea20"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  The proposal is submitted: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/jbracker/1&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2013/4/28 Brent Yorgey &amp;lt;byor...@seas.upenn.edu&amp;gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brent Yorgey</name>
  <email>byor...@seas.upenn.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T23:46:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/4cfa9ebffada4cf2?show_docid=4cfa9ebffada4cf2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/4cfa9ebffada4cf2?show_docid=4cfa9ebffada4cf2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  My understanding is that the role of the mentor is to ensure the &lt;br&gt; student is making adequate progress, to give advice and help as &lt;br&gt; needed, and to serve as the official point of contact with Google. &lt;br&gt; But there is not any expectation that the mentor will be able to help &lt;br&gt; with all aspects of the project. Of course, there are many of us with
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  <author>
  <name>Tim Docker</name>
  <email>t...@dockerz.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T22:41:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/6766e3870a76fd43?show_docid=6766e3870a76fd43</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/6766e3870a76fd43?show_docid=6766e3870a76fd43"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  I am ok doing this. Let me know what I have to do now (if anything). &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;However, my knowledge of the diagrams library is limited to reading of &lt;br&gt; the tutorials and a small amount of tinkering. So it would be great to &lt;br&gt; have input from others in this area. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Tim
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tim Docker</name>
  <email>t...@dockerz.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T22:36:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/384ef6697910cc44?show_docid=384ef6697910cc44</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/384ef6697910cc44?show_docid=384ef6697910cc44"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  Yikes. Not sure why dockerz.net was down. I&#39;ve rebooted it and all seems &lt;br&gt; normal. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;However, I don&#39;t really have much of an online presence to reference. In &lt;br&gt; addition to the chart stuff at dockerz.net I have a sporadic haskell &lt;br&gt; related blog at: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://twdkz.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Tim
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jan Bracker</name>
  <email>jan.brac...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T18:39:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/843d9251a0374466?show_docid=843d9251a0374466</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/843d9251a0374466?show_docid=843d9251a0374466"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  PS: As Tim is the main developer on Charts, I think he would be best to &lt;br&gt; mentor the project. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2013/4/28 Jan Bracker &amp;lt;jan.brac...@googlemail.com&amp;gt;
  </summary>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jan Bracker</name>
  <email>jan.brac...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T18:37:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/2aa3a8b528088767?show_docid=2aa3a8b528088767</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/2aa3a8b528088767?show_docid=2aa3a8b528088767"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  I added the links to the proposal: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;https://gist.github.com/jbracker/9c24df36a8dc1ba4bafe&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have no idea how the process for mentors works. I registered on the GSoC &lt;br&gt; 2013 site as a student. Below the link for applying as a student there is &lt;br&gt; one to register as possible mentor: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Andy Gill</name>
  <email>andyg...@ittc.ku.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T18:23:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/6b6e109764f031cf?show_docid=6b6e109764f031cf</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/6b6e109764f031cf?show_docid=6b6e109764f031cf"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  Sorry Dominic - I saw the cc: to Tim Docker, and assumed that Dom was an alias for Tim Docker. My wrong. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Good question regarding registration. Jan, do you know? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Andy
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dom</name>
  <email>idontgetoutm...@googlemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2013-04-28T18:19:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/8424a1754bf3fd60?show_docid=8424a1754bf3fd60</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/diagrams-discuss/browse_thread/thread/5a360da650f9529c/8424a1754bf3fd60?show_docid=8424a1754bf3fd60"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [diagrams] GSoC and Charts: Where are we?</title>
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  I have been called many things in my life but never Tim :-) Do you have to &lt;br&gt; register as a mentor now (perhaps you already are) or do we wait until the &lt;br&gt; proposal is accepted? &lt;br&gt; Dominic.
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