I'm contemplating migrating the main diagrams repositories (diagrams-core, active, diagrams-lib, diagrams-cairo, diagrams-contrib, diagrams-doc) to github. I still think darcs is superior to git, and will in any case continue to use darcs for personal projects. But diagrams has reached a point where I would really love to encourage more contribution --- and there's no denying that github lowers barriers to contribution considerably, and seems to be quite popular in the Haskell community at the moment. For a while I was hoping that Owen Stephens' darcs-bridge project would allow us to mirror the diagrams repos on github and hence allow me to have my cake and eat it too---but some bugs surfaced in darcs-bridge and at this point I have not much hope of them being fixed.
I've come to this point only with great reluctance, however, and before taking such a drastic step I'd like to get others' feedback. Do you think it's a good idea? Would it encourage or discourage you from contributing? For example, if all of the main contributors to diagrams thus far were to say "I don't think I'd contribute as much if you moved it to github", that would be a strong incentive for me not to move it, because I care more about the great community of people we've built around this project than I do about volume of contributions.
We make extensive use of github and git and KU. Our thinking was though git has flaws, github is amazing, we can use gitorious internally, and there are reasonable gui tools on top of git.
> I'm contemplating migrating the main diagrams repositories > (diagrams-core, active, diagrams-lib, diagrams-cairo, > diagrams-contrib, diagrams-doc) to github. I still think darcs is > superior to git, and will in any case continue to use darcs for > personal projects. But diagrams has reached a point where I would > really love to encourage more contribution --- and there's no denying > that github lowers barriers to contribution considerably, and seems to > be quite popular in the Haskell community at the moment. For a while > I was hoping that Owen Stephens' darcs-bridge project would allow us > to mirror the diagrams repos on github and hence allow me to have my > cake and eat it too---but some bugs surfaced in darcs-bridge and at > this point I have not much hope of them being fixed.
> I've come to this point only with great reluctance, however, and > before taking such a drastic step I'd like to get others' feedback. > Do you think it's a good idea? Would it encourage or discourage you > from contributing? For example, if all of the main contributors to > diagrams thus far were to say "I don't think I'd contribute as much if > you moved it to github", that would be a strong incentive for me not > to move it, because I care more about the great community of people > we've built around this project than I do about volume of > contributions.
> We make extensive use of github and git and KU. Our thinking was though git > has flaws, github is amazing, we can use gitorious internally, and there are > reasonable gui tools on top of git.
> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Brent Yorgey wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm contemplating migrating the main diagrams repositories >> (diagrams-core, active, diagrams-lib, diagrams-cairo, >> diagrams-contrib, diagrams-doc) to github. I still think darcs is >> superior to git, and will in any case continue to use darcs for >> personal projects. But diagrams has reached a point where I would >> really love to encourage more contribution --- and there's no denying >> that github lowers barriers to contribution considerably, and seems to >> be quite popular in the Haskell community at the moment. For a while >> I was hoping that Owen Stephens' darcs-bridge project would allow us >> to mirror the diagrams repos on github and hence allow me to have my >> cake and eat it too---but some bugs surfaced in darcs-bridge and at >> this point I have not much hope of them being fixed.
>> I've come to this point only with great reluctance, however, and >> before taking such a drastic step I'd like to get others' feedback. >> Do you think it's a good idea? Would it encourage or discourage you >> from contributing? For example, if all of the main contributors to >> diagrams thus far were to say "I don't think I'd contribute as much if >> you moved it to github", that would be a strong incentive for me not >> to move it, because I care more about the great community of people >> we've built around this project than I do about volume of >> contributions.
A vote for github as well. I agree that darcs is very cool stuff, and
has a great CLI interface, but github's UI, lower forking /
contribution barrier, and discoverability make it superior. By
discoverability, I mean that when you search "haskell diagrams",
without being logged in to google, I get byorgey's github profile as
#4 on the results, far before any patch-tag results.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ian Ross <i...@skybluetrades.net> wrote:
> I'd vote for Github too. Darcs may be a better system overall than
> git, but Github is very cool.
> On 22 April 2012 20:26, Andy Gill <andyg...@ittc.ku.edu> wrote:
>> I support this change.
>> We make extensive use of github and git and KU. Our thinking was though git
>> has flaws, github is amazing, we can use gitorious internally, and there are
>> reasonable gui tools on top of git.
>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Brent Yorgey wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I'm contemplating migrating the main diagrams repositories
>>> (diagrams-core, active, diagrams-lib, diagrams-cairo,
>>> diagrams-contrib, diagrams-doc) to github. I still think darcs is
>>> superior to git, and will in any case continue to use darcs for
>>> personal projects. But diagrams has reached a point where I would
>>> really love to encourage more contribution --- and there's no denying
>>> that github lowers barriers to contribution considerably, and seems to
>>> be quite popular in the Haskell community at the moment. For a while
>>> I was hoping that Owen Stephens' darcs-bridge project would allow us
>>> to mirror the diagrams repos on github and hence allow me to have my
>>> cake and eat it too---but some bugs surfaced in darcs-bridge and at
>>> this point I have not much hope of them being fixed.
>>> I've come to this point only with great reluctance, however, and
>>> before taking such a drastic step I'd like to get others' feedback.
>>> Do you think it's a good idea? Would it encourage or discourage you
>>> from contributing? For example, if all of the main contributors to
>>> diagrams thus far were to say "I don't think I'd contribute as much if
>>> you moved it to github", that would be a strong incentive for me not
>>> to move it, because I care more about the great community of people
>>> we've built around this project than I do about volume of
>>> contributions.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Michael Sloan <mgsl...@gmail.com> wrote: > A vote for github as well. I agree that darcs is very cool stuff, and > has a great CLI interface, but github's UI, lower forking / > contribution barrier, and discoverability make it superior. By > discoverability, I mean that when you search "haskell diagrams", > without being logged in to google, I get byorgey's github profile as > #4 on the results, far before any patch-tag results.
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ian Ross <i...@skybluetrades.net> wrote: >> I'd vote for Github too. Darcs may be a better system overall than >> git, but Github is very cool.
>> On 22 April 2012 20:26, Andy Gill <andyg...@ittc.ku.edu> wrote: >>> I support this change.
>>> We make extensive use of github and git and KU. Our thinking was though git >>> has flaws, github is amazing, we can use gitorious internally, and there are >>> reasonable gui tools on top of git.
>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Brent Yorgey wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I'm contemplating migrating the main diagrams repositories >>>> (diagrams-core, active, diagrams-lib, diagrams-cairo, >>>> diagrams-contrib, diagrams-doc) to github. I still think darcs is >>>> superior to git, and will in any case continue to use darcs for >>>> personal projects. But diagrams has reached a point where I would >>>> really love to encourage more contribution --- and there's no denying >>>> that github lowers barriers to contribution considerably, and seems to >>>> be quite popular in the Haskell community at the moment. For a while >>>> I was hoping that Owen Stephens' darcs-bridge project would allow us >>>> to mirror the diagrams repos on github and hence allow me to have my >>>> cake and eat it too---but some bugs surfaced in darcs-bridge and at >>>> this point I have not much hope of them being fixed.
>>>> I've come to this point only with great reluctance, however, and >>>> before taking such a drastic step I'd like to get others' feedback. >>>> Do you think it's a good idea? Would it encourage or discourage you >>>> from contributing? For example, if all of the main contributors to >>>> diagrams thus far were to say "I don't think I'd contribute as much if >>>> you moved it to github", that would be a strong incentive for me not >>>> to move it, because I care more about the great community of people >>>> we've built around this project than I do about volume of >>>> contributions.
