DHMN Hosting

Jamie Schrauth

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Apr 13, 2012, 12:05:56 AM4/13/12

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I would be willing to add DMHN to my hosting plan at startlogic.com. I host a few sites on this plan already and it would not cost me anything extra.

My hosting plan (prologic plan) has unlimited storage, bandwidth and domains. It has PHP, Perl, Python, and FTP. I am not sure about JSP, ASP.

They also offer wordpress, joomla, drupal… and several types of wikis. I copied and pasted all services below (I think the ones with orange text are the ‘premium services’ that cost extra)

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From: dhmn-di...@googlegroups.com [mailto:dhmn-di...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Moran
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:28 PM
To: dhmn-di...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {DHMN-discussion} Re: What are your top 2 short-term goals for DHMN funds?

That's still pretty cheap. I think that there may be two need though.
1. A server for the actual site/content that is going to have to be fairly stable and
2. A server that can be used for running all types of software, with a bunch of users.

The reason you want that separation is because you don't want everyone with access to your production site. Someone of that can be controlled with certain types of sandboxing, but then becomes a larger management issue.

-Mike

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Paul Klemstine <paulkl...@gmail.com> wrote:

What kind of space are we talking about here?

The vision I have is having a professional business type hosting plan that allows us to create unlimited subdomains and user accounts, and has PHP, Perl, Python,JSP, FTP, ASP, etc... Currently we have fine plain old "static" web space.

I figure once we have a physical space, we can host our own servers on location.

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Paul Klemstine

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Apr 13, 2012, 1:04:36 AM4/13/12

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Jamie, that sounds perfect to me.

Is there a single user sign in, or can new users be created and assigned permissions?

For example some people would have permission to ftp into experimentalProjectA.dhmn.net while another group of people can ftp into experimentalProjectB.dhmn.net.

This way we could assign certain people to certain web projects they are working on. If some people at a Make meeting wanted to create the next Google, we'd assign them some web space at google.dhmn.net and let them go at it, without them being able to access the regular dhmn.net website.

Do you have this space on a permanent basis or would DHMN have to move again sometime soon?

We'd have to consult with the DHMN officers and members to see if this is a good idea or not.

Are you attending the Sunday Make meeting? Maybe we could all meet together then and discuss plans.

What does everyone else think? I'd really like a DHMN website where I/we can implement voting, games, polls, RSS newsfeeds, reminders, calendars, wikis, tikis, collaboration, video, sound, etc.

Erin Quick-Laughlin

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Apr 13, 2012, 6:58:03 AM4/13/12

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I think that in lieu of having our own physical space, our own server(s) is/are the next best thing, and very helpful for our distribution. Especially if it gives anyone a place to get in and play.

What would it cost us?

Free is hard to beat right now, but the sooner we know our target, the quicker we can hit it.

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Jamie Schrauth

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Apr 13, 2012, 10:06:48 AM4/13/12

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The main user interface is limited to a single user as far as I can tell. I would not want to grant access to that anyway because that is where I manage all of my domains. I can set up FTP access to as many users as I want and restriction access to the files for a single domain. User accounts can also be setup for any of the add-ons (wordpress, drupal…) and obviously to any email accounts to access email. There are a lot of cool add-ons that I have not tried out that could probably be useful (discussion board, forums, surveys…).

Who is currently hosting the website?

Paul Klemstine

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Apr 13, 2012, 11:54:47 AM4/13/12

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Tim Bertram is kindly hosting the website from a computer at work. He is hesitant to give anyone access to the server because it is used by his business, and would be bad for him if someone screwed it up.

Mark Nickel

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Apr 13, 2012, 12:06:02 PM4/13/12

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Tim Bertram is graciously hosting the site right now.

I've been working with Luke on an alternative as he's also in a situation to not only donate the use of some hardware, but also admin-level access to a server so that we can have complete control of how things work and can accomplish some of the fun things that Paul has mentioned.

Having the admin-level access to make changes just would allow us the control to do other "stuff". But of course there's an overhead of maintenance of that.

For right now, where it's hosted, things are just magically taken care of! Tim's magical pixie dust works wonders!!

So in addition to Jamie's offering, as well as others, I'm throwing this one into the mix as well!! :)

Nothing has absolutely happened yet, just another option.

And, BTW, it's not that Tim is doing a bad job at all, just more about alleviating him from the responsibility and at the same time giving us all some additional control.

Michael Moran

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Apr 13, 2012, 2:56:49 PM4/13/12

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As I mentioned in this thread yesterday, I think there may be 2 needs that might not be filled by one system. A stable site and a sandbox/dev site. The stable site could have dynamic content and a lot of neat stuff, just not admin level control for everyone. That's an easy need to fill. The other need potentially has more complications, but could still be met with fairly modest resources.

-Mike

Ross Larson

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Apr 13, 2012, 3:01:49 PM4/13/12

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Has anyone had contact with NetSonic? They provide NEWLUG with its hosting.

Ross

Michael Moran

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Apr 13, 2012, 3:05:19 PM4/13/12

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I haven't used that one, but I have used dreamhost and linode. I haven't had issues with either.

Mike Putnam

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Apr 13, 2012, 3:06:38 PM4/13/12

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Is Net Sonic donating that hosting?

Ross Larson

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Apr 13, 2012, 3:37:19 PM4/13/12

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Yes, they are donating the NEWLUG hosting (which reminds me...we should get a banner from them...). They did a presentation on OpenVZ for a meeting a couple years back, and offered to host after the meeting. It's worth inviting them to a meeting and/or discussing the hosting arrangement, since they're located in Green Bay, and seem pretty open to helping hacker types in the area. No guarantees, but worth a conversation.

Ross

Bob Waldron

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Apr 13, 2012, 5:36:20 PM4/13/12

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Ross,

Do you have a contact name and email address at NetSonic? I'm thinking we could ask if they'd do a presentation at a DHMN make session, then discuss the hosting thing with them in person after their presentation.

L-Dron

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