Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two things if you're going to chime in on this: 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about that anyway. 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of it.
Hi Bob,
Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a documentary.
I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people fired up to film us.
My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of people and convince them. :)
Erin QL .
-- Erin Quick-Laughlin Agile Coach, Software Consultant, Business Developer
e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote: > Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN > community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our > Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, > then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the > fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two > things if you're going to chime in on this: > 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? > Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about > that anyway. > 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of > it.
> Hi Bob,
> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a > documentary.
> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about > SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I > have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. > http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're > interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our > up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people > fired up to film us.
> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting > filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going > after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, > used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space > donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that > would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing > distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from > the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_%28philosophy%29#Social_holon> that > we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will > be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of > people and convince them. :)
If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as a budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind sock, adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. just sayin
Sent from mobile device
On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Alex Hunt <al...@ieee.org> wrote:
> What about contacting the guy that put Bob Watson in a starring role?
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote: > Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two things if you're going to chime in on this: > 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about that anyway. > 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of it.
> Hi Bob,
> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a documentary.
> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people fired up to film us.
> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from the social holon that we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of people and convince them. :)
> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as > a budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind > sock, adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. > just sayin
I have a home-built steady-cam rig you're welcome to use.
I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a lot to establish non-profit educational credentials.
I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are always popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard animations a while ago.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II <bithead.1...@gmail.com>wrote:
> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as a > budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind sock, > adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. just sayin
> Sent from mobile device
> On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Alex Hunt <al...@ieee.org> wrote:
> What about contacting the guy that put Bob Watson in a starring role?
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <<e...@quick-laughlin.com> > e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >> things if you're going to chime in on this: >> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? >> Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about >> that anyway. >> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of >> it.
>> Hi Bob,
>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >> documentary.
>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >> fired up to film us.
>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_%28philosophy%29#Social_holon> that >> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >> people and convince them. :)
I have some meager experience rendering and uploading videos to newlug.blip.tv. It would be fun to help out with video production. One of the first things to upload would be our definitions of terms we often use, like DHMN, holon, hacker, darknet, maker, etc. I've read the Suarez books, but I know that some members may feel alienated when we get too jargon-y, and explanatory videos may help with that, especially when someone overhears that you've been spending time with your demon (DHMN) hacker pals.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bob Watson <rhar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the > developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This > Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a > lot to establish non-profit educational credentials.
> I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) > that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are always > popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. > Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard > animations a while ago.
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II < > bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as a >> budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind sock, >> adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. just sayin
>> Sent from mobile device
>> On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Alex Hunt <al...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> What about contacting the guy that put Bob Watson in a starring role?
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <<e...@quick-laughlin.com> >> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >>> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >>> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >>> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >>> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >>> things if you're going to chime in on this: >>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>> about that anyway. >>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>> of it.
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >>> documentary.
>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>> fired up to film us.
>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_%28philosophy%29#Social_holon> that >>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >>> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >>> people and convince them. :)
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bob Watson <rhar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the > developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This > Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a > lot to establish non-profit educational credentials.
> I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) > that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are always > popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. > Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard > animations a while ago.
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II < > bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as a >> budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind sock, >> adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. just sayin
>> Sent from mobile device
>> On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Alex Hunt <al...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> What about contacting the guy that put Bob Watson in a starring role?
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <<e...@quick-laughlin.com> >> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >>> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >>> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >>> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >>> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >>> things if you're going to chime in on this: >>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>> about that anyway. >>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>> of it.
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >>> documentary.
>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>> fired up to film us.
>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_%28philosophy%29#Social_holon> that >>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >>> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >>> people and convince them. :)
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bob Watson <rhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the >> developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This >> Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a >> lot to establish non-profit educational credentials.
>> I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) >> that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are always >> popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. >> Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard >> animations a while ago.
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II < >> bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as a >>> budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind sock, >>> adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. just sayin
>>> Sent from mobile device
>>> On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Alex Hunt <al...@ieee.org> wrote:
>>> What about contacting the guy that put Bob Watson in a starring role?
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <<e...@quick-laughlin.com> >>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current >>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as >>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with >>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy >>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask >>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this: >>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>>> about that anyway. >>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>>> of it.
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create >>>> a documentary.
>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>>> fired up to film us.
>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_%28philosophy%29#Social_holon> that >>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and >>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front >>>> of people and convince them. :)
> I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include > the developing documentary, maybe some education/information > programing, (This Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker > information could do a lot to establish non-profit educational > credentials.
> I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of > Fancy) that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are > always popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow > clearing automata. Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam > making some nice whiteboard animations a while ago.
>> I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the >> developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This >> Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a >> lot to establish non-profit educational credentials.
>> I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) >> that visualizes some of the whimsical extrapolations that are always >> popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. >> Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard >> animations a while ago.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:44:51AM -0500, Bob Watson wrote:
I'd like to see us start a DHMN channel on YouTube. It could include the developing documentary, maybe some education/information programing, (This Month in 3D Printing). Becoming a source of maker information could do a lot to establish non-profit educational credentials. I'd like to see a now-and-then simple animation series (Flights of Fancy) that visualizes some of the*whimsical*extrapolations that are always popping out of conversations, like Lynne's army of snow clearing automata. Do we have the skilzors? I recall Mike Putnam making some nice whiteboard animations a while ago.
{Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
"Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the 'make' spaces.
If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
L-Dron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <
e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote: > Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN > community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our > Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, > then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the > fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two > things if you're going to chime in on this: > 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? > Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about > that anyway. > 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of > it.
> Hi Bob,
> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a > documentary.
> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about > SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I > have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. > http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're > interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our > up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people > fired up to film us.
> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting > filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going > after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, > used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space > donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that > would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing > distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from > the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that > we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will > be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of > people and convince them. :)
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote: > Erin and all other DHMN members,
> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not > saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you > and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but a > quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an > increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected > organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and > collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on > toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things > out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to > have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons > and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in > specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have > absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to > work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon > started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each > other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that if > you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a > group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal > observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already > realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation > doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much > more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X > is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to > take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked > on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ > resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or > could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things > they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, > serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the > 'make' spaces.
> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be > glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
> L-Dron
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology > Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> > "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our > time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither > learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In this > way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility to > maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only > they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose > interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all > that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going > off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two > Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < > e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >> things if you're going to chime in on this: >> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? >> Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about >> that anyway. >> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of >> it.
>> Hi Bob,
>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >> documentary.
>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about >> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I >> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >> fired up to film us.
>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >> people and convince them. :)
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, DeanG <goodmans...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > :-) Has there been similar discussions with how DHMN embraces or applies > the Do-ocracy concepts from Noisebridge? > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not >> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you >> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but >> a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an >> increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected >> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and >> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on >> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things >> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to >> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons >> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in >> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have >> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to >> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon >> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each >> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that >> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a >> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal >> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already >> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation >> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much >> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X >> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to >> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked >> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ >> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or >> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things >> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, >> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the >> 'make' spaces.
>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be >> glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>> L-Dron
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> >> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our >> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither >> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In >> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility >> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only >> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose >> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all >> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going >> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two >> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < >> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >>> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >>> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >>> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >>> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >>> things if you're going to chime in on this: >>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>> about that anyway. >>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>> of it.
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >>> documentary.
>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about >>> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I >>> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>> fired up to film us.
>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >>> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >>> people and convince them. :)
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just fyi, I'm pretty sure this is the original 'bike shed' concept, > http://www.bikeshed.com/.
> AFAIK, there have not been any discussions related specifically to > Noisebridge Do-ocracy.
> L-Dron
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, DeanG <goodmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 >> :-) Has there been similar discussions with how DHMN embraces or >> applies the Do-ocracy concepts from Noisebridge? >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not >>> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you >>> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but >>> a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in >>> an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected >>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and >>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on >>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things >>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to >>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons >>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in >>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have >>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to >>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon >>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each >>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that >>> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a >>> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal >>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already >>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation >>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much >>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X >>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to >>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked >>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ >>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or >>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things >>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, >>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the >>> 'make' spaces.
>>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd >>> be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>>> L-Dron
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >>> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> >>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our >>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither >>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In >>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility >>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only >>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose >>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all >>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going >>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two >>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < >>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current >>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as >>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with >>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy >>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask >>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this: >>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>>> about that anyway. >>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>>> of it.
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create >>>> a documentary.
>>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about >>>> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I >>>> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>>> fired up to film us.
>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and >>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front >>>> of people and convince them. :)
Hello, I just joined the discussion group. As a student from Lawrence, I can definitely say there are many budding film makers, and with the equipment to boot. I'm running a group called LUFix (there's a facebook group), and the idea is to build a skillshare/makespace network within the Lawrence Community and the surrounding area. I will continue to follow discussions to see if my resources can be of any assistance. I know lots of students are interested in working with community members and collaborating to build and make things! Polly
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote: > And here's a bike shed page from hackerspaces.org that can lead you to > lots of other valuable ideas about building hackerspaces, > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Bikeshed_Anti-Pattern
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just fyi, I'm pretty sure this is the original 'bike shed' concept, >> http://www.bikeshed.com/.
>> AFAIK, there have not been any discussions related specifically to >> Noisebridge Do-ocracy.
>> L-Dron
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, DeanG <goodmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +1 >>> :-) Has there been similar discussions with how DHMN embraces or >>> applies the Do-ocracy concepts from Noisebridge? >>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>>>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not >>>> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you >>>> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>>>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, >>>> but a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>>>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>>>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in >>>> an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected >>>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and >>>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on >>>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things >>>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to >>>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons >>>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in >>>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have >>>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to >>>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon >>>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each >>>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>>>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that >>>> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a >>>> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal >>>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already >>>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation >>>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much >>>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X >>>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to >>>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked >>>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ >>>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or >>>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things >>>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, >>>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the >>>> 'make' spaces.
>>>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd >>>> be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>>>> L-Dron
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >>>> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> >>>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our >>>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither >>>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In >>>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility >>>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only >>>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose >>>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all >>>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going >>>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two >>>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < >>>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current >>>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as >>>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with >>>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy >>>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask >>>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this: >>>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>>>> about that anyway. >>>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>>>> of it.
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create >>>>> a documentary.
>>>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article >>>>> about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but >>>>> I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >>>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>>>> fired up to film us.
>>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >>>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and >>>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front >>>>> of people and convince them. :)
I'd enjoy talking with you and learning more about what you're doing and what you're interested in re DHMN, makerspaces and the TIME (Tech, Innovator, Maker, Entrepreneur) community in general. Anytime today or in the near future you'd be available to meet for coffee or other beverage to discuss this stuff?
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Polly Dalton <dalto...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > I just joined the discussion group. As a student from Lawrence, I can > definitely say there are many budding film makers, and with the equipment > to boot. > I'm running a group called LUFix (there's a facebook group), and the idea > is to build a skillshare/makespace network within the Lawrence Community > and the surrounding area. I will continue to follow discussions to see if > my resources can be of any assistance. I know lots of students are > interested in working with community members and collaborating to build and > make things! > Polly
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just fyi, I'm pretty sure this is the original 'bike shed' concept, >>> http://www.bikeshed.com/.
>>> AFAIK, there have not been any discussions related specifically to >>> Noisebridge Do-ocracy.
>>> L-Dron
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:44 AM, DeanG <goodmans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> +1 >>>> :-) Has there been similar discussions with how DHMN embraces or >>>> applies the Do-ocracy concepts from Noisebridge? >>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Do-ocracy
>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>>>>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm >>>>> not saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, >>>>> you and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>>>>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, >>>>> but a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>>>>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>>>>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in >>>>> an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected >>>>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and >>>>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on >>>>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things >>>>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to >>>>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons >>>>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in >>>>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have >>>>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to >>>>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon >>>>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each >>>>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>>>>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept >>>>> that if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to >>>>> lead a group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal >>>>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already >>>>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation >>>>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much >>>>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X >>>>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to >>>>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked >>>>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ >>>>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or >>>>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things >>>>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, >>>>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the >>>>> 'make' spaces.
>>>>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd >>>>> be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>>>>> L-Dron
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >>>>> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> >>>>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our >>>>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither >>>>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In >>>>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility >>>>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only >>>>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose >>>>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all >>>>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going >>>>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two >>>>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < >>>>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current >>>>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as >>>>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with >>>>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy >>>>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask >>>>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this: >>>>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>>>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>>>>> about that anyway. >>>>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can >>>>>> come of it.
>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and >>>>>> create a documentary.
>>>>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article >>>>>> about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but >>>>>> I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >>>>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>>>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>>>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>>>>> fired up to film us.
>>>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>>>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>>>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>>>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>>>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>>>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>>>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>>>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >>>>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and >>>>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front >>>>>> of people and convince them. :)
> On 4/20/2012 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II wrote:> If you don't want to look real far, I would like to offer my skills as
> > a budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind
> > sock, adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia.
> > just sayin
> I have a home-built steady-cam rig you're welcome to use.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Bubba <bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks I would like to check it out
> On Apr 20, 8:17 am, Lynne Whitehorn <lynne.whiteh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 4/20/2012 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II wrote:> If you don't want to > look real far, I would like to offer my skills as > > > a budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind > > > sock, adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. > > > just sayin
> > I have a home-built steady-cam rig you're welcome to use.
Glad we're on the same page Bob - and thanks for bringing back some important discussions we've had in the past - it's hard to remember all the things our group has discussed - I'm with you all the way.
It sounds like we have multiple media people - simply awesome.
I'm rushing to get out the door on my flight, but perhaps I can setup a Trello project later - or someone else please jump in on this one if you feel the burn :)
I'll have to catch up with y'all later, but wow is this a fantastic set of responses!
Erin
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Karl P. Niemuth II <bithead.1...@gmail.com
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Bubba <bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> thanks I would like to check it out
>> On Apr 20, 8:17 am, Lynne Whitehorn <lynne.whiteh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On 4/20/2012 7:23 AM, Karl P. Niemuth II wrote:> If you don't want to >> look real far, I would like to offer my skills as >> > > a budding film maker. I have a hd camera, a rode microphone with wind >> > > sock, adobe master collection and an associates degree in multimedia. >> > > just sayin
>> > I have a home-built steady-cam rig you're welcome to use.
>> > -Lynne
-- Erin Quick-Laughlin Agile Coach, Software Consultant, Business Developer
Erin wanted a project to get done as a DHMN project. It involves a bunch of us and I think it is a truly collaborative. I know I value input other members have given me. I think once we get a couple group project under our belt we could see potential growth in ourselves and in our numbers.
I think Erin's idea of documenting is a good idea. And I think it's great more than one member is stepping up. It will be a part of our history of our ethos. I believe all us try to inspire each other. I truly appreciate the diverse talented individuals we have in our midst. I love to hear what projects each of us is up too. I know when I've asked about a person project they are doing they love to tell me about it. And I love to listen. There is passion in what they want to accomplish. I like the fact that a lot of us using Trello and posting our projects thus creating a greater sense of community. This is documentation of things we are doing. It will be better when we hear those ideals in our words on video. I know documenting will take commitment. Since we have recently been meeting more often. I just started thinking about the possibilities of what can be accomplished. Is there a public access channel we can show them on when ready? Promoting us and expanding other numbers with extraordinary gifted individuals.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote: > Erin and all other DHMN members,
> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not > saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you > and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but a > quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an > increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected > organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and > collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on > toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things > out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to > have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons > and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in > specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have > absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to > work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon > started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each > other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that if > you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a > group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal > observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already > realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation > doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much > more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X > is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to > take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked > on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ > resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or > could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things > they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, > serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the > 'make' spaces.
> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be > glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
> L-Dron
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology > Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> > "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our > time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither > learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In this > way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility to > maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only > they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose > interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all > that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going > off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two > Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < > e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN >> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our >> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, >> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the >> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two >> things if you're going to chime in on this: >> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? >> Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about >> that anyway. >> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of >> it.
>> Hi Bob,
>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a >> documentary.
>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about >> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I >> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >> fired up to film us.
>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will >> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of >> people and convince them. :)
I would really value the opportunity to film the group and edit the video.
I am currently in the process of starting a business and it would be a
great asset to me to be able to show-off what I am capable of. I have been
converting part of my home in to a studio and hopefully when I get my
funding in order I can put in a chroma key screen and be able to shoot more
custom video from here. I would really appreciate and help from you guys
that I can get. If you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Tim Bolz <tim.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Said Bob. I agree.
> Erin wanted a project to get done as a DHMN project. It involves a bunch
> of us and I think it is a truly collaborative. I know I value input other
> members have given me. I think once we get a couple group project under
> our belt we could see potential growth in ourselves and in our numbers.
> I think Erin's idea of documenting is a good idea. And I think it's
> great more than one member is stepping up. It will be a part of our
> history of our ethos. I believe all us try to inspire each other. I truly
> appreciate the diverse talented individuals we have in our midst. I love
> to hear what projects each of us is up too. I know when I've asked about a
> person project they are doing they love to tell me about it. And I love to
> listen. There is passion in what they want to accomplish. I like the fact
> that a lot of us using Trello and posting our projects thus creating a
> greater sense of community. This is documentation of things we are doing.
> It will be better when we hear those ideals in our words on video. I know
> documenting will take commitment. Since we have recently been meeting more
> often. I just started thinking about the possibilities of what can be
> accomplished. Is there a public access channel we can show them on when
> ready? Promoting us and expanding other numbers with extraordinary gifted
> individuals.
> Tim
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not
>> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you
>> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but
>> a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an
>> increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected
>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and
>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on
>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things
>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to
>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons
>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in
>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have
>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to
>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon
>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each
>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that
>> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a
>> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal
>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already
>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation
>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much
>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X
>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to
>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked
>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$
>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or
>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things
>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge,
>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the
>> 'make' spaces.
>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be
>> glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>> L-Dron
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet>
>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our
>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither
>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In
>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility
>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only
>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose
>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all
>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going
>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two
>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <
>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN
>>> community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our
>>> Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others,
>>> then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the
>>> fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two
>>> things if you're going to chime in on this:
>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution
>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good
>>> about that anyway.
>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come
>>> of it.
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a
>>> documentary.
>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about
>>> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I
>>> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now.
>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're
>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our
>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people
>>> fired up to film us.
>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting
>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going
>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases,
>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space
>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that
>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing
>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from
>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that
>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will
>>> be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of
>>> people and convince them. :)
> I would really value the opportunity to film the group and edit the video.
> I am currently in the process of starting a business and it would be a
> great asset to me to be able to show-off what I am capable of. I have been
> converting part of my home in to a studio and hopefully when I get my
> funding in order I can put in a chroma key screen and be able to shoot more
> custom video from here. I would really appreciate and help from you guys
> that I can get. If you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Tim Bolz <tim.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well Said Bob. I agree.
>> Erin wanted a project to get done as a DHMN project. It involves a bunch
>> of us and I think it is a truly collaborative. I know I value input other
>> members have given me. I think once we get a couple group project under
>> our belt we could see potential growth in ourselves and in our numbers.
>> I think Erin's idea of documenting is a good idea. And I think it's
>> great more than one member is stepping up. It will be a part of our
>> history of our ethos. I believe all us try to inspire each other. I truly
>> appreciate the diverse talented individuals we have in our midst. I love
>> to hear what projects each of us is up too. I know when I've asked about a
>> person project they are doing they love to tell me about it. And I love to
>> listen. There is passion in what they want to accomplish. I like the fact
>> that a lot of us using Trello and posting our projects thus creating a
>> greater sense of community. This is documentation of things we are doing.
>> It will be better when we hear those ideals in our words on video. I know
>> documenting will take commitment. Since we have recently been meeting more
>> often. I just started thinking about the possibilities of what can be
>> accomplished. Is there a public access channel we can show them on when
>> ready? Promoting us and expanding other numbers with extraordinary gifted
>> individuals.
>> Tim
>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not
>>> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you
>>> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but
>>> a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in
>>> an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected
>>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and
>>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on
>>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things
>>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to
>>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons
>>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in
>>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have
>>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to
>>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon
>>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each
>>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that
>>> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a
>>> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal
>>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already
>>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation
>>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much
>>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X
>>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to
>>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked
>>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$
>>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or
>>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things
>>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge,
>>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the
>>> 'make' spaces.
>>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd
>>> be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>>> L-Dron
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >>> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet>
>>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our
>>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither
>>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In
>>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility
>>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only
>>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose
>>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all
>>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going
>>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two
>>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <
>>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current
>>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as
>>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with
>>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy
>>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask
>>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this:
>>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution
>>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good
>>>> about that anyway.
>>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come
>>>> of it.
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create
>>>> a documentary.
>>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about
>>>> SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I
>>>> have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now.
>>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're
>>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our
>>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people
>>>> fired up to film us.
>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting
>>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going
>>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases,
>>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space
>>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that
>>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing
>>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from
>>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that
>>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and
>>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front
>>>> of people and convince them. :)
I can and I only want to be able to use what I record and edit in my portfolio for my business. I am trying to start the business with just my skills and imagination but no funding yet (I am working on that). I am doing what I can but I don't always have gas enough to make it to and from meetings in the past but I will do my best
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <
> Can you record and edit most of the make sessions?
> There are other meetings too, but I think these would be most fruitful.
> If you can make the time and get the posts up pretty quick, how can we > help?
> Erin > On Apr 21, 2012 7:11 PM, "Karl P. Niemuth II" <bithead.1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> I would really value the opportunity to film the group and edit the >> video. I am currently in the process of starting a business and it would be >> a great asset to me to be able to show-off what I am capable of. I have >> been converting part of my home in to a studio and hopefully when I get my >> funding in order I can put in a chroma key screen and be able to shoot more >> custom video from here. I would really appreciate and help from you guys >> that I can get. If you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask
>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Tim Bolz <tim.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well Said Bob. I agree.
>>> Erin wanted a project to get done as a DHMN project. It involves a >>> bunch of us and I think it is a truly collaborative. I know I value input >>> other members have given me. I think once we get a couple group project >>> under our belt we could see potential growth in ourselves and in our >>> numbers.
>>> I think Erin's idea of documenting is a good idea. And I think it's >>> great more than one member is stepping up. It will be a part of our >>> history of our ethos. I believe all us try to inspire each other. I truly >>> appreciate the diverse talented individuals we have in our midst. I love >>> to hear what projects each of us is up too. I know when I've asked about a >>> person project they are doing they love to tell me about it. And I love to >>> listen. There is passion in what they want to accomplish. I like the fact >>> that a lot of us using Trello and posting our projects thus creating a >>> greater sense of community. This is documentation of things we are doing. >>> It will be better when we hear those ideals in our words on video. I know >>> documenting will take commitment. Since we have recently been meeting more >>> often. I just started thinking about the possibilities of what can be >>> accomplished. Is there a public access channel we can show them on when >>> ready? Promoting us and expanding other numbers with extraordinary gifted >>> individuals.
>>> Tim
>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Erin and all other DHMN members,
>>>> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not >>>> saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you >>>> and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
>>>> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, >>>> but a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
>>>> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
>>>> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in >>>> an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected >>>> organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and >>>> collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on >>>> toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things >>>> out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to >>>> have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons >>>> and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in >>>> specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have >>>> absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to >>>> work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon >>>> started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each >>>> other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
>>>> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that >>>> if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a >>>> group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal >>>> observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already >>>> realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation >>>> doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much >>>> more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X >>>> is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to >>>> take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked >>>> on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ >>>> resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or >>>> could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things >>>> they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, >>>> serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the >>>> 'make' spaces.
>>>> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd >>>> be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
>>>> L-Dron
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology >>>> Owen explains his one "Law," called the *"law of two feet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology#Law_of_Two_Feet> >>>> "* or *"the law of mobility"*, as follows: *If at any time during our >>>> time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither >>>> learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else.* In >>>> this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility >>>> to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only >>>> they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose >>>> interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all >>>> that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going >>>> off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two >>>> Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin < >>>> e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
>>>>> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current >>>>> DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as >>>>> our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with >>>>> others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy >>>>> all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask >>>>> just two things if you're going to chime in on this: >>>>> 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution >>>>> too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good >>>>> about that anyway. >>>>> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come >>>>> of it.
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
>>>>> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
>>>>> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create >>>>> a documentary.
>>>>> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article >>>>> about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but >>>>> I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. >>>>> http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
>>>>> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're >>>>> interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our >>>>> up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people >>>>> fired up to film us.
>>>>> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting >>>>> filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going >>>>> after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, >>>>> used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space >>>>> donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that >>>>> would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing >>>>> distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from >>>>> the social holon<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)#Social_holon> that >>>>> we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
>>>>> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and >>>>> will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front >>>>> of people and convince them. :)
> Can you record and edit most of the make sessions?
> There are other meetings too, but I think these would be most fruitful.
> If you can make the time and get the posts up pretty quick, how can we help?
> Erin
> On Apr 21, 2012 7:11 PM, "Karl P. Niemuth II" <bithead.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would really value the opportunity to film the group and edit the video. I am currently in the process of starting a business and it would be a great asset to me to be able to show-off what I am capable of. I have been converting part of my home in to a studio and hopefully when I get my funding in order I can put in a chroma key screen and be able to shoot more custom video from here. I would really appreciate and help from you guys that I can get. If you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Tim Bolz <tim.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Said Bob. I agree.
> Erin wanted a project to get done as a DHMN project. It involves a bunch of us and I think it is a truly collaborative. I know I value input other members have given me. I think once we get a couple group project under our belt we could see potential growth in ourselves and in our numbers.
> I think Erin's idea of documenting is a good idea. And I think it's great more than one member is stepping up. It will be a part of our history of our ethos. I believe all us try to inspire each other. I truly appreciate the diverse talented individuals we have in our midst. I love to hear what projects each of us is up too. I know when I've asked about a person project they are doing they love to tell me about it. And I love to listen. There is passion in what they want to accomplish. I like the fact that a lot of us using Trello and posting our projects thus creating a greater sense of community. This is documentation of things we are doing. It will be better when we hear those ideals in our words on video. I know documenting will take commitment. Since we have recently been meeting more often. I just started thinking about the possibilities of what can be accomplished. Is there a public access channel we can show them on when ready? Promoting us and expanding other numbers with extraordinary gifted individuals.
> Tim
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Waldron <bwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Erin and all other DHMN members,
> {Erin -- hopefully we know each other well enough that you know I'm not saying in any way that your email was 'bad' -- if any concerns re that, you and I need to have coffee or other beverage soon...}
> Will think more about the specific issue(s) presented in this email, but a quick reply seems mandatory regarding "stepping on toes."
> "Stepping on toes" needs to not be a concern for DHMN members.
> DHMN is a distributed, participant-driven organization. In DHMN, as in an increasing number of today's distributed-and-loosely-connected organizations that are adapting appropriately to current technology and collaborative techniques, there needs to be more willingness to 'step on toes' and an improved ability of an organization's members to work things out well if someone feels their toes have been flattened. The reason to have 'officers' or other designated roles within DHMN is for legal reasons and to have someone nominally responsible for moving DHMN forward in specific areas, such as finances or legal issues. The designated roles have absolutely not been established to keep other people from volunteering to work on stuff related to those designated roles. We'll never get our holon started and working well if we don't have the freedom to step on each other's toes a bit (re-read Daemon and FreedomTM if unsure what I mean).
> DHMN operates on the 'law of two feet' (see below) and the concept that if you see something that should be done, offer to get it done or to lead a group getting it done. Don't waste time making written or verbal observations that 'someone' should do X.' Chances are most people already realize that someone should do X. Just making that comment/observation doesn't help the group move ahead. Saying 'I want to work on X' is much more useful. If someone nominally responsible for that topic feels issue X is their domain, they need to be able to work well with others who offer to take some or all responsibility for getting issue X done or at least worked on. There are not enough DHMN members (yet) nor are there enough DHMN $$ resources (yet...) to do all the cool and useful things that should or could be done. So each member needs to take responsibility for things they're interested in and have the resources (time, connections, knowledge, serendipitous circumstances) to accomplish, e.g. Paul arranging for the 'make' spaces.
> If any DHMN member disagrees or isn't sure what I'm talking about, I'd be glad to discuss it more one-on-one or in a group.
> L-Dron
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-space_technology > Owen explains his one "Law," called the "law of two feet" or "the law of mobility", as follows: If at any time during our time together you find yourself in any situation where you are neither learning nor contributing, use your two feet, go someplace else. In this way, all participants are given both the right and the responsibility to maximize their own learning and contribution, which the Law assumes only they, themselves, can ultimately judge and control. When participants lose interest and get bored in a breakout session, or accomplish and share all that they can, the charge is to move on, the "polite" thing to do is going off to do something else. In practical terms, Owen explains, the Law of Two Feet says: "Don't waste time!"
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Erin Quick-Laughlin <e...@quick-laughlin.com> wrote:
> Disclaimer: This is an experiment in transparency with our current DHMN community. Normally, I would probably just send this idea to Bob as our Community Liason, get his input, mull it over in small pieces with others, then roll out a plan if it passes muster. However, I really enjoy all the fantastic ideas that come from everyone being involved. So I ask just two things if you're going to chime in on this: > 1) If you see a problem with this, can you respond with the solution too? Or a better way to get the end result? We're usually pretty good about that anyway.
> 2) Understand that I like breaking the rules to see what good can come of it.
> Hi Bob,
> Can't sleep - have a ton of ideas about next steps to promote DHMN.
> Here's one that I think you might enjoy as Community Liason:
> Find a budding film maker that will record everything we do and create a documentary.
> I'm also considering all the possible threads off of this article about SnagFilms - albeit old, it could yield an interesting discovery - but I have too much to get out at the moment to read all the links right now. http://gigaom.com/video/snagfilms-best-thing-for-docs-since-netflix/
> I'll be out of state through April 30 on vacation, but if you're interested in doing some contacting, and stoking fires about our up-and-coming makerspace, I'd like to partner with you on getting people fired up to film us.
> My goal is to create more excitement through the attention of getting filmed, the sharing of that film and validation it would give us when going after bigger funds. My primary idea is a combination of short releases, used to inspire a lawyer (to donate 501c3 work) and a physical-space donation by any combo of large local tech companies and Arts funds, that would be eventually released as a full length documentary about a growing distributed community struggling to create a space and eventually go from the social holon that we are now, to Suarez' idea of a holon.
> I'm sure ideas like this one have all been in your head before, and will be again. But now I can't sleep, and I'm fired up to get out in front of people and convince them. :)
