The Tigers would have to trade for Upton. Former Reds general manager Jim Bowden, now an analyst with ESPN, apparently thinks a package of Upton plus another player for Nick Castellanos, Avisail Garcia and Drew Smyly would be good.
- The Tigers are supposedly the front-runner to sign free agent outfielder Torii Hunter:
That's according to Bowden, too. Hunter reportedly wants to make a decision within the next two weeks. The Yankees and Dodgers are supposed to be interested in him, too.
Links to the original articles and tweets are in those two links above.
In a DetNews article from this morning, Lynn Henning also talked about the Justin Upton situation. His version had the Diamondbacks also "wanting" Peralta (to move to 3B) as part of the package. Henning's (for the moment) bottom line on this situation was that Arizona was asking "way too much" (and that Upton had a few "ifs" in his resume anyway). He was far more in favor of the Tigers getting Melky Cabrera (for a year), while Castellanos and AGarcia "mature" (presumably for 2014). Henning's other main thrust was that the Tigers should view Sanchez as "gone". He is reputed to have put his own "line" at 6 years and $90M and Henning views this as "way too much" - but acknowledges that there are teams out there (Toronto?) who will probably step up to that. This also provides part of another reason not to send Smyly off anywhere (see the Upton list). Henning seems to believe that Smyly should probably be part of the 2013 5-man rotation anyway - and (to complete the presumed set) doesn't think the Tigers should be giving up on Porcello yet. This article did not happen to mention Torii Hunter at all. I happen to think that Hunter might be a good addition (2 years?), but also think that MelkyC might be an "interesting" addition (but only short term).
The Tigers would have to trade for Upton. Former Reds general manager Jim Bowden, now an analyst with ESPN, apparently thinks a package of Upton plus another player for Nick Castellanos, Avisail Garcia and Drew Smyly would be good.
- The Tigers are supposedly the front-runner to sign free agent outfielder Torii Hunter:
That's according to Bowden, too. Hunter reportedly wants to make a decision within the next two weeks. The Yankees and Dodgers are supposed to be interested in him, too.
Links to the original articles and tweets are in those two links above.
The Tigers have agreed to sign Torii Hunter to a two-year deal, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Hunter obtains $26MM over two years, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The contract with the Reynolds Sports Management client is pending a physical.
Hunter joins a Tigers lineup that includes Austin Jackson, Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez. The Tigers view Hunter as a number two hitter, Rosenthal reported yesterday. The 37-year-old figures to play right field for Detroit with Jackson in center and an internal option -- perhaps Andy Dirks or Avisail Garcia -- in left.
Hunter posted a .313/.365/.451 batting line with 16 home runs in 584 plate appearances as the Angels' right fielder last year. Advanced metrics valued his performance above five wins, but he didn t obtain a qualifying offer from Los Angeles. Perhaps wary of his age and league-best .389 batting average on balls in play, the Angels let Hunter leave without compensation. That s a bonus for the Tigers who don t have to surrender a draft choice to add their longtime AL Central rival.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/tigers-to-sign-torii-hunter.htm...
> The Tigers have agreed to sign Torii Hunter to a two-year deal, Ken
> Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Hunter obtains $26MM over
> two years, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The
> contract with the Reynolds Sports Management client is pending a physical.
> Hunter joins a Tigers lineup that includes Austin Jackson, Prince
> Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez. The Tigers view Hunter as a
> number two hitter, Rosenthal reported yesterday. The 37-year-old figures
> to play right field for Detroit with Jackson in center and an internal
> option -- perhaps Andy Dirks or Avisail Garcia -- in left.
> Hunter posted a .313/.365/.451 batting line with 16 home runs in 584
> plate appearances as the Angels' right fielder last year. Advanced
> metrics valued his performance above five wins, but he didn’t obtain a
> qualifying offer from Los Angeles. Perhaps wary of his age and
> league-best .389 batting average on balls in play, the Angels let Hunter
> leave without compensation. That’s a bonus for the Tigers who don’t have
> to surrender a draft choice to add their longtime AL Central rival.
> Read more at
> http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/tigers-to-sign-torii-hunter.htm...
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Meloche <meloche...@gmail.com>
Sender: detroit-tigers@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:11:32 To: Shawn Parker<sdparker1...@gmail.com>
Cc: Detroit Tigers<detroit-tigers@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Tigers sign Torii Hunter to 2 year deal
13 Million a year for 37 year old Torii Hunter?? Wow...
Paul M.
On 11/14/12, Shawn Parker <sdparker1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Tigers have agreed to sign Torii Hunter to a two-year deal, Ken
> Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Hunter obtains $26MM over
> two years, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The
> contract with the Reynolds Sports Management client is pending a physical.
> Hunter joins a Tigers lineup that includes Austin Jackson, Prince
> Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez. The Tigers view Hunter as a
> number two hitter, Rosenthal reported yesterday. The 37-year-old figures
> to play right field for Detroit with Jackson in center and an internal
> option -- perhaps Andy Dirks or Avisail Garcia -- in left.
> Hunter posted a .313/.365/.451 batting line with 16 home runs in 584
> plate appearances as the Angels' right fielder last year. Advanced
> metrics valued his performance above five wins, but he didn’t obtain a
> qualifying offer from Los Angeles. Perhaps wary of his age and
> league-best .389 batting average on balls in play, the Angels let Hunter
> leave without compensation. That’s a bonus for the Tigers who don’t have
> to surrender a draft choice to add their longtime AL Central rival.
> Read more at
> http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/tigers-to-sign-torii-hunter.htm...
It's not my money, but they've overpaid here. Probably could have spent less on another OF who is younger and could put up similar numbers as Hunter. However, this signing is okay from a roster standpoint. Despite doing okay after his callup Garcia still isn't really ready for the bigs and needs more time in the minors to develop power and plate discipline. Hunter for a couple of years bides time for Garcia and Castellanos to (hopefully) develop. Being in his late 30s Hunter may suddenly decline next year, but I'd still take him over Brennan Boesch or any other scrub the Tigers might throw out there in RF.
A problem with this deal is that it possibly takes away money they could throw after Anibel Sanchez. I want to see Sanchez come back.
He's more reliable than Porcello (or Smyly) as a #4 starter. However, I've been reading that Sanchez is now looking for $90-$100 million over 6 or 7 years. That's too much. Tigers might not want to pay that much for Sanchez and I wouldn't blame them. I'd rather take my chances with Smyly & Porcello in the #4 and #5 spots, or possibly sign a cheaper starting pitcher option, such as Dan Haren. But it's Mike Ilitch's money and he may still fork it over to keep Sanchez.
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:22:53 -0500
> From: sdparker1...@gmail.com
> To: detroit-tigers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tigers sign Torii Hunter to 2 year deal
> The Tigers have agreed to sign Torii Hunter to a two-year deal, Ken > Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Hunter obtains $26MM over > two years, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The > contract with the Reynolds Sports Management client is pending a physical.
> Hunter joins a Tigers lineup that includes Austin Jackson, Prince > Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez. The Tigers view Hunter as a > number two hitter, Rosenthal reported yesterday. The 37-year-old figures > to play right field for Detroit with Jackson in center and an internal > option -- perhaps Andy Dirks or Avisail Garcia -- in left.
> Hunter posted a .313/.365/.451 batting line with 16 home runs in 584 > plate appearances as the Angels' right fielder last year. Advanced > metrics valued his performance above five wins, but he didn’t obtain a > qualifying offer from Los Angeles. Perhaps wary of his age and > league-best .389 batting average on balls in play, the Angels let Hunter > leave without compensation. That’s a bonus for the Tigers who don’t have > to surrender a draft choice to add their longtime AL Central rival.
> Read more at > http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/tigers-to-sign-torii-hunter.htm...
What's crazy is that Sanchez has done nothing to indicate he deserves that type of money in a long term contract. I'd over pay for two years but he hasn't even Ben a fade B pitcher for a whole year. I'd offer him two year at 8 mil per year max.
Cal
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Peter Welch <p...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's not my money, but they've overpaid here. Probably could have spent less on another OF who is younger and could put up similar numbers as Hunter. However, this signing is okay from a roster standpoint. Despite doing okay after his callup Garcia still isn't really ready for the bigs and needs more time in the minors to develop power and plate discipline. Hunter for a couple of years bides time for Garcia and Castellanos to (hopefully) develop. Being in his late 30s Hunter may suddenly decline next year, but I'd still take him over Brennan Boesch or any other scrub the Tigers might throw out there in RF.
> A problem with this deal is that it possibly takes away money they could throw after Anibel Sanchez. I want to see Sanchez come back.
> He's more reliable than Porcello (or Smyly) as a #4 starter. However, I've been reading that Sanchez is now looking for $90-$100 million over 6 or 7 years. That's too much. Tigers might not want to pay that much for Sanchez and I wouldn't blame them. I'd rather take my chances with Smyly & Porcello in the #4 and #5 spots, or possibly sign a cheaper starting pitcher option, such as Dan Haren. But it's Mike Ilitch's money and he may still fork it over to keep Sanchez.
> -Peter
> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:22:53 -0500
> > From: sdparker1...@gmail.com
> > To: detroit-tigers@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Tigers sign Torii Hunter to 2 year deal
> > The Tigers have agreed to sign Torii Hunter to a two-year deal, Ken > > Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Hunter obtains $26MM over > > two years, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter). The > > contract with the Reynolds Sports Management client is pending a physical.
> > Hunter joins a Tigers lineup that includes Austin Jackson, Prince > > Fielder, Miguel Cabrera and Victor Martinez. The Tigers view Hunter as a > > number two hitter, Rosenthal reported yesterday. The 37-year-old figures > > to play right field for Detroit with Jackson in center and an internal > > option -- perhaps Andy Dirks or Avisail Garcia -- in left.
> > Hunter posted a .313/.365/.451 batting line with 16 home runs in 584 > > plate appearances as the Angels' right fielder last year. Advanced > > metrics valued his performance above five wins, but he didn’t obtain a > > qualifying offer from Los Angeles. Perhaps wary of his age and > > league-best .389 batting average on balls in play, the Angels let Hunter > > leave without compensation. That’s a bonus for the Tigers who don’t have > > to surrender a draft choice to add their longtime AL Central rival.
> > Read more at > > http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/tigers-to-sign-torii-hunter.htm...
