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Danielle Gilbert  
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From: Danielle Gilbert <danielle.gilb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:05:23 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 14 2009 2:05 pm
Subject: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?

Hello everyone,

I've always wanted to go on an expedition cruise on the Amazon. I'm in the
very early stages of planning such a trip and would love to receive any
input you may have. I'd most like to see/do the following:

- Snorkel or dive to see discus, cardinal tetras, pacus, arowanas, and
arapaimas in the wild
- See an anaconda
- See macaws and toucans
- See a boto (Amazon river dolphin)
- See the Meeting of the Waters

Are there any tour operators that you'd recommend or warn against? Any
highlights or activities I shouldn't miss?

Thanks for your advice,
Danielle


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From: deen...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:12:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: detritus: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
Hi Danielle,

I went to Peru about three years ago. I have information for you but am
running late for work right now. I know of two different groups that go
and will send you more details today.

-Mike Gale


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From: Angel <jangelgarci...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:27:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: detritus: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?

well it's my understanding that the most dangerous animal in the amazon is the PIRANHA RUNN!!!   lol   ok no....  actually I believe they are pretty tasty!  Just watch out for Mosquitos!  and don't pee on the water...  there are fish atracted to the ammonia and swim right into the body cavity that excretes it.

J Angel Garcia.  San Francisco CA

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From: Danielle Gilbert <danielle.gilb...@gmail.com>
Subject: detritus: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
To: detritus@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 11:05 AM

Hello everyone,

I've always wanted to go on an expedition cruise on the Amazon. I'm in the very early stages of planning such a trip and would love to receive any input you may have. I'd most like to see/do the following:

- Snorkel or dive to see discus, cardinal tetras, pacus, arowanas, and arapaimas in the wild
- See an anaconda
- See macaws and toucans
- See a boto (Amazon river dolphin)
- See the Meeting of the Waters

Are there any tour operators that you'd recommend or warn against? Any highlights or activities I shouldn't miss?

Thanks for your advice,
Danielle


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From: Danielle Gilbert <danielle.gilb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:30:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?

Yeah, Candiru <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candiru> has been the name of my
fantasy football team for a few years now. :)


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From: Dave Gomberg <da...@wcf.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:37:35 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 14 2009 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: detritus: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
I went with Tennessee Aquarium and Mo was the boat captain and the
trip was quite affordable.  Not many fish tho.  The main fish town is
up the Rio Negro a few hundred miles....   Macaws are common, toucans
much rarer.  Wedding of the waters best seen from a plane (not expensive).

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From: Dallas Ryan <dalrya...@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:16:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?

I'm actually going on an Amazon trip this december!  I emailed the  
leader of the trip - and here's what she wrote back:

Well, everything that Danielle is looking for we will be likely to
do/see on our December trip!  Yes, please post back to the listserve
about our upcoming trip!  I guess for the list serve, the best post
would be the web address with all of the info:
http://sce.uhcl.edu/howard, click on 'Amazon trips'.  Maybe we'll be
able to fill up our trip!  Thanks!

You may also get in touch with her at: howa...@uhcl.edu

I think we're going with the same folks that Dave went with as the  
Boat Captain is also named Mo and is based out of Manaus, Brazil.

Hope this helps.

Dal

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From: Dave Gomberg <da...@wcf.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:32:28 -0700
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Subject: Re: detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
At 01:16 PM 10/14/2009, Dallas Ryan wrote:

I went about 10 years ago, think it was with Mo
Sr.  If you stick around Manaus you won't see
much fish.   Best place for fish is Barcelos,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system>Coordinates:
[]
<http://stable.toolserver.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Barcelos,_A...>00°58
30 S 62°55 26 W, area of town boundaries is huge
(the size of NY state), but city center itself is
tiny (5 x 10 blocks), 32K population in the whole darned city.

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From: Dave Gomberg <da...@wcf.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:10:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
Check this out, it's very kewl:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/piaba.html

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Check this out, it's very kewl:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/piaba.html

Check out the part about Aquamazonia

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:10:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: detritus: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
Hi Danielle,

I think I read where you already have your trip planned and
communicated with the group leader.

Do brink your mask and snorkel but you may not have a chance to use
them. Many on my Peru trip brought them but the water was never clear
enough to use them. Perhaps in a small creek or a still oxbow lake.

You will probably hear the macaws before you see them. Much of the time
when I saw Macaws or Conures the light was bad and the colors did not
show much. I could tell them by their outlines in the sky or when
perched on trees. Ask your trip leader what bird book would be most
helpful in identifying birds in the area you are going. A used book may
be an option as you are going to get wet and muddy at times. Bring a
zip lock bag bag enough to pt the book in. On my Peru trip it turned
out a bird book from a neighboring country was better at describing the
birds in the area we were in. I am not familiar with the area you are
going but check out some macaw web pages and see if you will be
anywhere near the clay licks that parrots frequent. I did a quick
google search and did not find much results for the clay licks in
Brazil, mostly results for Peru. Bring some good binoculars for
birding.

We occasionally saw the pink river dolphins but by the time I would
grab my camera I had pictures of water ripples. Enjoy the moment even
if you don't get that perfect picture.

Look into a waterproof camera if you do not already have one or a
waterproof housing for one. Even if you take no underwater shots it
will be nice if gets wet. I have read that the fuji waterproof cameras
are not that good and hear very good things about Olympus waterproof
cameras. My next camera will be one of the waterproof Olympus cameras.
They have a several models good for 10 feet and several for 30 feet.

The further off the beaten path the more you will see. If your boat
goes up smaller tributaries of the amazon you will see much more. Make
your group leader aware of the things you are interested in and they
may do those things especially if other people on the tour want to do
the same. As long as the boat captain and crew are familiar with the
area you are going to they will probably be able to find it if it is
there to find. Our boat crew were excellent and had a wide knowledge
base on local fish, birds, and plants.

If you are going off the beaten path bring some toys for kids in
villages you may visit. Preferably nothing that a small kid can
swallow! Frisbees and little games were a hit, whistles made one
village mayor a bit pissed off :) If you have extra shirts that you can
leave with the crew they usually love that. There were plenty of fish
club shirts among the crew on our trip.

Deet!
I did not use it enough or completely cover myself with it enough and I
got Dengue Fever from a mosquito. That was not a fun filled 8 day stay
in the Hospital when I got home.
( https://www.google.com/health/ref/Dengue+fever )
When I got back and got out of the hospital Chuck Rambo told me next
trip to spray all my clothes before you leave and pack them.(YMMV) Then
bring more of the Deet with you to use. Never use it indoors,
especially on the boat!
While about a dozen countries are working on dengue vaccines none of
them will be available if successful by the time you leave.
Make sure to get your shots and meds for other things early enough in
advance to make it convenient and stress free in preparing for your
trip. My local travel clinic was packed and one of the staff had to
leave on a family emergency and I ended up getting my malaria meds as I
was leaving.

Sunscreen, hat, and another hat for when that one blows off into the
river.

I recommend hi top shoes. If you end up in the mud or walking in a
creek it will keep them on your feet. That or boots that go higher than
your ankle. A few people wore crocs and they would come off all the
time! Sandals or birkenstocks for the boat, easier to dry off when
getting back on board the boat. I also do not recommend sandals when
walking around as you may step on something and it may want to take a
bite out of you. Our crew caught a Fer de Lance when walking about.
Very poisonous snake. Having almost stepped on rattlesnakes in
California I like the idea of leather shoes anyway.

I dehydrate very easily so I brought a large container of powdered
gatorade. It turned out that the city we left out of had the local
brand of electrolyte drink like gatorade so I stocked up on those as
well. Our boat had a large supply of safe purified drinking water for
us to drink but bring some immodium anyway, you never know! Find out
what will be served on the boat in the way of food in advance We had an
excellent chef that had his own restraunt and if persuaded would cook
things we caught. One night pirhana, another night Pike cichlid. The
pike was excellent! You may see some mystery meat so be prepared.

Have fun!

-Mike


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Discussion subject changed to "detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?" by Thomas Barr
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From: Thomas Barr <tcb...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: detritus: Re: [detritus] Amazon trip - any recommendations?
+1 for the Pentax 12.1 mega pix water proof and the Olympus.
Small, easy and decent zoom.
Unless you get nice flash, nice camera, and are a pro(and want to spend gobs of $), it's not likely adding more $ will help the submersed pics.

If you already have a decent camera, might consider raincoat type cover/rain bags etc for it.

Some use those cheaper Sanyo water proof video cameras, not bad, takes a bit to learn to use them, but for the $, hard to beat.

Regards,
Tom Barr


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