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11. gkirk

Apr 10 2007, 4:02 pm

From: "gkirk" <gerry.k...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:02:36 -0000

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 4:02 pm

Subject: Re: Promoting DeoWeb (was Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?)

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12. Laurie G.

(1 user) Apr 10 2007, 3:22 pm

From: "Laurie G." <lgag...@diocesessm.org>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:22:30 -0000

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 3:22 pm

Subject: Re: Promoting DeoWeb (was Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?)

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If I were to put on my 'first-time guest to parish website' hat, I'd
ask myself, "Why would I want to come back to this website again? Has
it been a valuable and meaningful experience? Is there something there
that invites me to explore my faith in community? Is the content
relevant and current?"

Beyond the weekend bulletin information, part of the challenge in
encouraging and empowring others to bring life to my home parish's
website is convincing would-be content managers and/or faith-sharers
that they have the ability to communicate a message to a virtual
audience.

I suspect that people who are comfortable expressing themselves
through email correspondance are able to do so because the audience/
recipient is known, there's history to the relationship, it's a
private and informal communication so it's ...well...less threatening.
Maybe we need to find ways to help foster/nourish/develop/motivate
'written communication' skills so that people feel empowered to share
their experiences of faith/God/church is less threatening way.

Handing out fridge mangets and having pastor's vocally support parish
websites will pack a bigger punch if there is something meaningful to
offer a guest so that they want to come back for more...and not just a
returning web visitor but to active membership of their parish
family.

Your thoughts?

On Apr 5, 3:16 pm, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:

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> Bill your thoughts are on target. One of the major hurdles to getting
> more out of DeoWeb is that most people don't know about it. I talk to
> lots of people in my parish who aren't aware of it, or at the very
> least have never gone to the site. Once they know more about it, they
> are interested and often sign up for the parish newsletter.

> Yes, some parish priests could to be more supportive of it. Any ideas
> for lighting a spark under their feet? We're now sending out monthly
> newsletters to priests and parishes to keep them more in the loop on
> how DeoWeb is being used elsewhere in the Diocese, as well as
> improvements to the system.

> That being said, one of the supposed benefits to DeoWeb is to get
> beyond the "gatekeeper" problem, where one person controls the flow
> of information. There is nothing stopping every person who gets the e-
> bulletin to email 10 other parishioners they know, inviting them to
> sign up. Imagine if we increased the readership by 5 or 10 times the
> current level? It wouldn't be difficult. There are only 1400 or so
> people signed up to receive the newsletter. If promoting from the top
> isn't working, try the grassroots approach.

> What do you say Bill? Others?

> I have this idea to include a fridge magnet in every bulletin some
> weekend, so that people have a regular reminder at home for the web
> site. SooToday did that in the early days. What are some promotional
> ideas we could use?

> - Gerry

> On 4-Apr-07, at 1:29 PM, Bill wrote:

> > Before we consider where Deoweb is heading, we should concentrate on
> > getting our parishionners used to using their existing Deoweb in their
> > parish. The site should:
> > a) be advocated by the Parish Priest since the diocese is putting a
> > fair amount of money into the establishment of the site;
> > b) be a current source of information for the parish such as news,
> > events;
> > c) be dynamic so that the site does not always appear the same each
> > time the person logs on;
> > d) contain articles that supports the liturgy again acting as a
> > source of information;
> > e) advertized in the parish bulletin.
> > The key is to have support from the parish priest to advocate the site
> > on a weekly basis.
> > Once we get the parishionners using the site then we can look at
> > future changes. As for paying, in my humble opinion, that would spell
> > death to Deoweb.
> > Bill

> > On Apr 3, 8:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:
> >> Ok, I need your thoughts and ideas on the future of DeoWeb.

> >> There is some discussion going on right now at the diocesan office
> >> about future directions for DeoWeb. Admittedly, the system which
> >> holds much promise has not taken off by leaps and bounds after about
> >> 3 years of trying. About 25 parishes publish at least one item a
> >> month, but most parishioners probably don't even know it exists,
> >> unless there is regular promotion and use in their parish.

> >> Should DeoWeb be scaled back? Perhaps the cost of supporting all the
> >> parishes isn't justified. Would adding a volunteer support team be
> >> possible help to offset some of the cost?

> >> Parishes also do not contribute directly to the cost of DeoWeb - that
> >> is borne by the diocesan office. Perhaps that is part of the problem.
> >> Stuff that is "free" is valued less and gets less attention. Systems
> >> with less functionality than DeoWeb cost more than US $100 / month.
> >> Would introducing a monthly fee spur some more effort to use it?

> >> What is most valuable about DeoWeb? Why do you feel it is important
> >> to have for your parish and the Diocese? Or maybe you feel it isn't
> >> worth having - why is that the case?

> >> Now is the time to share your thoughts. Some decisions will be made
> >> in the coming weeks.

> >> In Christ,
> >> Gerry Kirk

> >> DeoWeb Communications

Discussion subject changed to "Where should DeoWeb be headed?" by jvanne...@sympatico.ca

13. jvanne...@sympatico.ca

(1 user) Apr 5 2007, 11:19 am

From: jvanne...@sympatico.ca

Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 08:19:25 -0700

Local: Thurs, Apr 5 2007 11:19 am

Subject: Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

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After gathering feedback from a number of people including some of our
members of KoC, I have found that everyone felt it is important for us
to maintain some form of web presence. People who are new to our area
or just visiting our area probably rely on the Internet to search for
information about churches, mass times, and locations. Without a
website, they may not find us.

The children of today are very web savvy. They rely on the Internet
for many things and they are growing up with the expectation of being
able to find information and services on the Internet. Although many
of today's children probably have no interest in our websites now,
when these children grow up and become parents, they will be expecting
more from the church websites.

Scaling back the websites to reduce the cost to the diocesan office is
one option that may be worth considering. We currently do not use the
website to its full potential. We currently use the website to post
information about St. Rita's church, our location, mass schedule (and
dedications), contact information, pictures of the church and various
functions, our weekly bulletin, and occasionally we post other
information items. If DeoWeb is scaled back, we would not want to
lose the capability for these things.

As for paying a monthly fee to maintain the website, I'm not sure if
our church could afford this.

We have been trying to build more interest in our website. Our pastor
is very supportive and has mentioned the website on many occasions. We
also have the web address listed as part of the contact information in
all our weekly bulletins.

Last summer, we held our own internal training session for some
members of our CWL but we never really got that section of the web
site into production. There is still interest from the CWL and we are
hoping to take another shot at it this spring.

It takes time for interest to build up. It is only in the last 12
months or so that we have really been making better use of our
website. As our website grows, we hope to see an increase in usage.
But it is going to take some time for this to happen.

On Apr 3, 9:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:

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14. Paul

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From: "Paul" <paul_and...@vianet.ca>

Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:13:05 -0400

Local: Thurs, Apr 5 2007 7:13 pm

Subject: RE: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

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Please don't lose hope. The base is there, but I think that we have to be
more patient and it will catch on. I think we need to work with the school
board(s) and bring it to the parishioners who will use it; make it more
attractive to the kids. Kids want to chat with each other about their faith
so why don't we give them a forum to do it. At our parish, we give the kids
something to look forward to and they end up bringing their parents to mass.
We have a children's liturgy at St. Andrew the Apostle that is extremely
successful; upwards of 50 children at each 11:00 Sunday mass. I would be
willing to work with anyone to come up with a mandate and help deploy it.
There has been too much invested into the Deoweb to scale it down. Talking
to the older parishioners is fine, but let's look to the future of the
church and meet them on their playing field.
Paul-St. Andrew the Apostle Church

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-----Original Message-----
From: deoweb-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:deoweb-users@googlegroups.com]

On Behalf Of jvanne...@sympatico.ca
Sent: April 5, 2007 11:19 AM
To: DeoWeb Users
Subject: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

As for paying a monthly fee to maintain the website, I'm not sure if
our church could afford this.

On Apr 3, 9:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:
> Ok, I need your thoughts and ideas on the future of DeoWeb.

> There is some discussion going on right now at the diocesan office
> about future directions for DeoWeb. Admittedly, the system which
> holds much promise has not taken off by leaps and bounds after about
> 3 years of trying. About 25 parishes publish at least one item a
> month, but most parishioners probably don't even know it exists,
> unless there is regular promotion and use in their parish.

> Should DeoWeb be scaled back? Perhaps the cost of supporting all the
> parishes isn't justified. Would adding a volunteer support team be
> possible help to offset some of the cost?

> Parishes also do not contribute directly to the cost of DeoWeb - that
> is borne by the diocesan office. Perhaps that is part of the problem.
> Stuff that is "free" is valued less and gets less attention. Systems
> with less functionality than DeoWeb cost more than US $100 / month.
> Would introducing a monthly fee spur some more effort to use it?

> What is most valuable about DeoWeb? Why do you feel it is important
> to have for your parish and the Diocese? Or maybe you feel it isn't
> worth having - why is that the case?

> Now is the time to share your thoughts. Some decisions will be made
> in the coming weeks.

> In Christ,
> Gerry Kirk

> DeoWeb Communications

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15. gkirk

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From: "gkirk" <gerry.k...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:15:10 -0000

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 4:15 pm

Subject: Make DeoWeb more social

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Wow, I wish I had started this group back when DeoWeb was first
getting started. To me, an important aspect missing from DeoWeb right
now is making it easier for people to connect with one another, to
share stories, laughs, hopes and concerns. This group is proof to me
that in addition to trying to get relevant content online, perhaps the
biggest need is for enabling people to be more social in the parish /
diocesan context.

Sites like facebook.com, myspace.com, linkedin.com are examples of
networks that are flourishing because they enable people to
communicate with each other in ways that matter, whether it is sharing
photos, making goofy comments or getting advice.

Perhaps that would make the DeoWeb experience more fun... I think it
would.

If you are interested in trying one of these social sites, I recommend
facebook.com. I've found people through that site I haven't been in
contact with in years! The site makes it really easy to keep in touch
with people you care about. You can even invite me to be your
friend. :) Just search for Gerry Kirk.

Peace,
Gerry

On Apr 5, 7:13 pm, "Paul" <paul_and...@vianet.ca> wrote:

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> Please don't lose hope. The base is there, but I think that we have to be
> more patient and it will catch on. I think we need to work with the school
> board(s) and bring it to the parishioners who will use it; make it more
> attractive to the kids. Kids want to chat with each other about their faith
> so why don't we give them a forum to do it. At our parish, we give the kids
> something to look forward to and they end up bringing their parents to mass.
> We have a children's liturgy at St. Andrew the Apostle that is extremely
> successful; upwards of 50 children at each 11:00 Sunday mass. I would be
> willing to work with anyone to come up with a mandate and help deploy it.
> There has been too much invested into the Deoweb to scale it down. Talking
> to the older parishioners is fine, but let's look to the future of the
> church and meet them on their playing field.
> Paul-St. Andrew the Apostle Church

> -----Original Message-----
> From: deoweb-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:deoweb-users@googlegroups.com]

> On Behalf Of jvanne...@sympatico.ca
> Sent: April 5, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: DeoWeb Users
> Subject: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

> After gathering feedback from a number of people including some of our
> members of KoC, I have found that everyone felt it is important for us
> to maintain some form of web presence. People who are new to our area
> or just visiting our area probably rely on the Internet to search for
> information about churches, mass times, and locations. Without a
> website, they may not find us.

> The children of today are very web savvy. They rely on the Internet
> for many things and they are growing up with the expectation of being
> able to find information and services on the Internet. Although many
> of today's children probably have no interest in our websites now,
> when these children grow up and become parents, they will be expecting
> more from the church websites.

> Scaling back the websites to reduce the cost to the diocesan office is
> one option that may be worth considering. We currently do not use the
> website to its full potential. We currently use the website to post
> information about St. Rita's church, our location, mass schedule (and
> dedications), contact information, pictures of the church and various
> functions, our weekly bulletin, and occasionally we post other
> information items. If DeoWeb is scaled back, we would not want to
> lose the capability for these things.

> As for paying a monthly fee to maintain the website, I'm not sure if
> our church could afford this.

> We have been trying to build more interest in our website. Our pastor
> is very supportive and has mentioned the website on many occasions. We
> also have the web address listed as part of the contact information in
> all our weekly bulletins.

> Last summer, we held our own internal training session for some
> members of our CWL but we never really got that section of the web
> site into production. There is still interest from the CWL and we are
> hoping to take another shot at it this spring.

> It takes time for interest to build up. It is only in the last 12
> months or so that we have really been making better use of our
> website. As our website grows, we hope to see an increase in usage.
> But it is going to take some time for this to happen.

> On Apr 3, 9:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:
> > Ok, I need your thoughts and ideas on the future of DeoWeb.

> > There is some discussion going on right now at the diocesan office
> > about future directions for DeoWeb. Admittedly, the system which
> > holds much promise has not taken off by leaps and bounds after about
> > 3 years of trying. About 25 parishes publish at least one item a
> > month, but most parishioners probably don't even know it exists,
> > unless there is regular promotion and use in their parish.

> > Should DeoWeb be scaled back? Perhaps the cost of supporting all the
> > parishes isn't justified. Would adding a volunteer support team be
> > possible help to offset some of the cost?

> > Parishes also do not contribute directly to the cost of DeoWeb - that
> > is borne by the diocesan office. Perhaps that is part of the problem.
> > Stuff that is "free" is valued less and gets less attention. Systems
> > with less functionality than DeoWeb cost more than US $100 / month.
> > Would introducing a monthly fee spur some more effort to use it?

> > What is most valuable about DeoWeb? Why do you feel it is important
> > to have for your parish and the Diocese? Or maybe you feel it isn't
> > worth having - why is that the case?

> > Now is the time to share your thoughts. Some decisions will be made
> > in the coming weeks.

> > In Christ,
> > Gerry Kirk

> > DeoWeb Communications

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16. gkirk

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From: "gkirk" <gerry.k...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:20:11 -0000

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 4:20 pm

Subject: Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

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Paul, some work was done last year with the school boards, but we ran
out of resources to explore it further. We did set up workspaces on
the diocesan site for the school boards, but they site empty. Perhaps
the DC team should get back in touch with the school boards about
cross-posting information again.

The more exciting idea proposed is to integrate DeoWeb into the school
curriculuum, as part of a computer course. School boards are
interested because it builds a faith connection. The idea is to have
students work with parishes for a period of time to help them with
their web site. They would get training on DeoWeb in class, and the
"assignments" would be in the parishes.

Again, that came to a halt because we just don't have the resources to
explore it further. It would be exciting, however. We had several
school boards ready to get involved.

- Gerry

On Apr 5, 7:13 pm, "Paul" <paul_and...@vianet.ca> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: deoweb-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:deoweb-users@googlegroups.com]

> On Behalf Of jvanne...@sympatico.ca
> Sent: April 5, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: DeoWeb Users
> Subject: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

> As for paying a monthly fee to maintain the website, I'm not sure if
> our church could afford this.

> On Apr 3, 9:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:
> > Ok, I need your thoughts and ideas on the future of DeoWeb.

> > Should DeoWeb be scaled back? Perhaps the cost of supporting all the
> > parishes isn't justified. Would adding a volunteer support team be
> > possible help to offset some of the cost?

> > What is most valuable about DeoWeb? Why do you feel it is important
> > to have for your parish and the Diocese? Or maybe you feel it isn't
> > worth having - why is that the case?

> > Now is the time to share your thoughts. Some decisions will be made
> > in the coming weeks.

> > In Christ,
> > Gerry Kirk

> > DeoWeb Communications

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17. PAUL FALCIONI

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From: "PAUL FALCIONI" <paul_and...@vianet.ca>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:38:12 -0400

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 4:38 pm

Subject: Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

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Gerry; what kind of resources would they need to get this done? I think this
is brilliant and could reconnect the schools with the parishes in a way we
haven't seen for many years. On Easter Sunday we had 75 children for the
liturgy. Fr. Al and the schools for the parish are slowly reconnecting and
it is breathing new life into our parish.

Paul

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gkirk writes:

> Paul, some work was done last year with the school boards, but we ran
> out of resources to explore it further. We did set up workspaces on
> the diocesan site for the school boards, but they site empty. Perhaps
> the DC team should get back in touch with the school boards about
> cross-posting information again.

> The more exciting idea proposed is to integrate DeoWeb into the school
> curriculuum, as part of a computer course. School boards are
> interested because it builds a faith connection. The idea is to have
> students work with parishes for a period of time to help them with
> their web site. They would get training on DeoWeb in class, and the
> "assignments" would be in the parishes.

> Again, that came to a halt because we just don't have the resources to
> explore it further. It would be exciting, however. We had several
> school boards ready to get involved.

> - Gerry

> On Apr 5, 7:13 pm, "Paul" <paul_and...@vianet.ca> wrote:
>> Please don't lose hope. The base is there, but I think that we have to be
>> more patient and it will catch on. I think we need to work with the school
>> board(s) and bring it to the parishioners who will use it; make it more
>> attractive to the kids. Kids want to chat with each other about their faith
>> so why don't we give them a forum to do it. At our parish, we give the kids
>> something to look forward to and they end up bringing their parents to mass.
>> We have a children's liturgy at St. Andrew the Apostle that is extremely
>> successful; upwards of 50 children at each 11:00 Sunday mass. I would be
>> willing to work with anyone to come up with a mandate and help deploy it.
>> There has been too much invested into the Deoweb to scale it down. Talking
>> to the older parishioners is fine, but let's look to the future of the
>> church and meet them on their playing field.
>> Paul-St. Andrew the Apostle Church

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: deoweb-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:deoweb-users@googlegroups.com]

>> On Behalf Of jvanne...@sympatico.ca
>> Sent: April 5, 2007 11:19 AM
>> To: DeoWeb Users
>> Subject: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

>> After gathering feedback from a number of people including some of our
>> members of KoC, I have found that everyone felt it is important for us
>> to maintain some form of web presence. People who are new to our area
>> or just visiting our area probably rely on the Internet to search for
>> information about churches, mass times, and locations. Without a
>> website, they may not find us.

>> The children of today are very web savvy. They rely on the Internet
>> for many things and they are growing up with the expectation of being
>> able to find information and services on the Internet. Although many
>> of today's children probably have no interest in our websites now,
>> when these children grow up and become parents, they will be expecting
>> more from the church websites.

>> Scaling back the websites to reduce the cost to the diocesan office is
>> one option that may be worth considering. We currently do not use the
>> website to its full potential. We currently use the website to post
>> information about St. Rita's church, our location, mass schedule (and
>> dedications), contact information, pictures of the church and various
>> functions, our weekly bulletin, and occasionally we post other
>> information items. If DeoWeb is scaled back, we would not want to
>> lose the capability for these things.

>> As for paying a monthly fee to maintain the website, I'm not sure if
>> our church could afford this.

>> We have been trying to build more interest in our website. Our pastor
>> is very supportive and has mentioned the website on many occasions. We
>> also have the web address listed as part of the contact information in
>> all our weekly bulletins.

>> Last summer, we held our own internal training session for some
>> members of our CWL but we never really got that section of the web
>> site into production. There is still interest from the CWL and we are
>> hoping to take another shot at it this spring.

>> It takes time for interest to build up. It is only in the last 12
>> months or so that we have really been making better use of our
>> website. As our website grows, we hope to see an increase in usage.
>> But it is going to take some time for this to happen.

>> On Apr 3, 9:50 am, Gerry Kirk <g...@faithonline.com> wrote:
>> > Ok, I need your thoughts and ideas on the future of DeoWeb.

>> > There is some discussion going on right now at the diocesan office
>> > about future directions for DeoWeb. Admittedly, the system which
>> > holds much promise has not taken off by leaps and bounds after about
>> > 3 years of trying. About 25 parishes publish at least one item a
>> > month, but most parishioners probably don't even know it exists,
>> > unless there is regular promotion and use in their parish.

>> > Should DeoWeb be scaled back? Perhaps the cost of supporting all the
>> > parishes isn't justified. Would adding a volunteer support team be
>> > possible help to offset some of the cost?

>> > Parishes also do not contribute directly to the cost of DeoWeb - that
>> > is borne by the diocesan office. Perhaps that is part of the problem.
>> > Stuff that is "free" is valued less and gets less attention. Systems
>> > with less functionality than DeoWeb cost more than US $100 / month.
>> > Would introducing a monthly fee spur some more effort to use it?

>> > What is most valuable about DeoWeb? Why do you feel it is important
>> > to have for your parish and the Diocese? Or maybe you feel it isn't
>> > worth having - why is that the case?

>> > Now is the time to share your thoughts. Some decisions will be made
>> > in the coming weeks.

>> > In Christ,
>> > Gerry Kirk

>> > DeoWeb Communications

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18. Hurley, Tara

Apr 10 2007, 4:54 pm

From: "Hurley, Tara" <Tara.Hur...@teletech.com>

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:54:28 -0600

Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 4:54 pm

Subject: [deoweb-users] Re: Where should DeoWeb be headed?

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The thread on where Deoweb should be headed is interesting. I agree
that the parish priests may not be promoting it as they could be. I
think Fr Jim would be more apt to promote this tool if he saw we had the
time to do with it what was first envisioned by the diocese. As it is,
even though the programming makes the web user friendly, it takes much
time to post each news/event article along with the bulletin.

I consider myself computer savvy and posting the bulletin and then
breaking it out into the news articles and events was a 3 hour job for
me although I also tried to include a pic with the articles as well.

The change in the weekly email from the diocese was a good one.
Receiving out of date information about events at my parish was a turn
off and it was not often possible for me to update the web before Friday
at midnight. Thank you.

If Deoweb is a tool for non-senior members of our congregations, maybe a
link with the school boards would be beneficial not just for a source of
volunteers but as a marketing strategy. Each school has a website - is
their parish web link listed? Are events at the parish linked/listed?

Leading a busy life, I don't access the St. Pat's web often but I know
the bulletin is there if I need it or missed Mass that week. And the
weekly email is informative and a good reminder to check the bulletin.
Maybe a diocese wide request for email newsletter signup would be in
order. It could be proposed as a re-launch of a renewed newsletter.

Tara

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Discussion subject changed to "Challenges managing content" by Gerry Kirk

19. Gerry Kirk

Apr 13 2007, 2:31 pm

From: Gerry Kirk <ge...@faithonline.com>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:31:41 -0400

Local: Fri, Apr 13 2007 2:31 pm

Subject: Challenges managing content

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20. Hurley, Tara

Apr 13 2007, 3:11 pm

From: "Hurley, Tara" <Tara.Hur...@teletech.com>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:11:52 -0600

Local: Fri, Apr 13 2007 3:11 pm

Subject: RE: [deoweb-users] Challenges managing content

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I have not done one in a while but it used to take me three hours
because I had to dissect what was put together for the bulletin
printers.
This included saving the clips in a usable format (or find my own),
removing all spacing/formatting so I could use the formatting in the
Deoweb program.

Each piece of the bulletin would then go into a news or event file which
I did not always have sufficient information to complete - length of
meetings, contact personnel so I would have to compromise and do the
best I could. The bulletin is often four full pages not including the
front and back covers and some is point form so there were many events
which included other parish events in the city.

If others were updating their own Deoweb information or feeding the
information to me for the web AND the parish secretary for the bulletin
it might have been better but the general consensus is that it takes
time and there is not enough return on effort so, in the end, it doesn't
get done.

Dream way of having content added to the site?
Part-time parish(s) position so someone could be held accountable and
would be a single point of contact to maintain the site
- could work from home 2 hours per day at $10 per hour = $100 per week
monitored by logon times and/or number of changes registered by that
user if this info is tracked by the web. Faxes from department heads,
group contacts etc can be received by pc so they could be sent from the
parish office via hardcopy which, I suspect, is the way most information
is received for the bulletin.

However, I am not that much of a dreamer so I will continue to think on
this.

I don't think that student volunteer hours are necessarily the answer
since the supervision of said work is often as much work as completing
it yourself ~ ask me...my 13 year old did a couple bulletins and I
re-did them so they would not tarnish the image of the medium :}

There is definitely one thing that would get more people to the sites
and that is PHOTOS.
The more photos there are, the more people make the effort to look for
them, especially if they contain images of family & people they know.

Have a good weekend, all.
Tara

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Subject: [deoweb-users] Challenges managing content

Tara, wow 3 hours to post everything that goes into the bulletin? How
many news items and events would that be?

Bill Kerr, how much time do you and your team member take each week
posting bulletin info?

Tara, I'm just wondering if there are perhaps easier ways to do what you
are doing. Of course, the best solution would be for someone else to
take care of some of the posting.

I'm interested in everyone's thoughts, too on how the whole content
creation process could be made easier. What would be your "dream" way of
adding content to the site?

Thanks for your other ideas as well, Tara. I'm going to have to start
jotting down everyone's good suggestions in one place before they all
slip through my fingers. (grin)

- Gerry

On 10-Apr-07, at 4:54 PM, Hurley, Tara wrote:

I consider myself computer savvy and posting the bulletin and
then breaking it out into the news articles and events was a 3 hour job
for me although I also tried to include a pic with the articles as well.

Tara