Racists remarks by Matt Ghali at Berkeley University
Dirk Diggler
to the various postings Ghali has made these past
weeks, as they are just childish. But, I have zero
tolerance to racism and his recent posting is clearly
a sign he goes too far and this sort of thing should
not be allowed on this mailing list as it clearly very
wrong.
I am quite shocked actually that the University of
Berkeley has allowed all the childish rants from him,
as it is a sign of the un-professional atmosphere they
must have with this guy. But I am very shocked if they
employ a person that has racist view of a persons
ethnic background and how that somehow relates to
their abilities professionally.
I personally have made a rule for future posts with
his name to send that memessage to /dev/null and would
urge Stalker Software to consider what rules there
should be on this list. I do not think it would be
tolerated to have porn on this list, and neither
should racism be allowed.
-Sean
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here to rant and waste diskspace and bandwidth?
Matt Ghali
My opinions mine alone, and I was not going to reply to the
various postings Ghali has made these past weeks, as they are just
childish.
I am glad you have come forward and made a reply which not only
contains useful and pertinent information for CGP users, but is also
a fine example of maturity!!
But, I have zero tolerance to racism and his recent posting is
clearly a sign he goes too far and this sort of thing should not
be allowed on this mailing list as it clearly very wrong.
Would you mind pointing out where exactly I made this racist
comment? You've made a very serious accusation there and if you are
not able to substantiate it, I'd like an immediate and full apology.
If you are unable to substantiate your accusation, I'd ask that the
moderators remove you from the list. It is unprofessional and
unethical to make such allegations (and were you in the US,
actionable in civil courts)
I am quite shocked actually that the University of Berkeley has
allowed all the childish rants from him, as it is a sign of the
un-professional atmosphere they must have with this guy. But I am
very shocked if they employ a person that has racist view of a
persons ethnic background and how that somehow relates to their
abilities professionally.
I don't know why you are associating me with the UCB, as I do not
post from a UCB address, and have not represented myself as speaking
for UCB. Once again, you seem to be inventing facts.
I personally have made a rule for future posts with
his name to send that memessage to /dev/null and would
urge Stalker Software to consider what rules there
should be on this list.
Oh well, good for you. Throw some mud and run away! That is not
childish at all.
I do not think it would be tolerated to have porn on this list,
and neither should racism be allowed.
This is funny coming from someone using a pseudonym taken from the
name of a porn star character in a movie.
Once again. Substantiate your accusation, or apologise.
matto
not speaking for the University of California at Berkeley at all!
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of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
Shaun Gamble
fidonet. There is a delete/read next button. Use it. And
if you get so worked up about one person's emails, then
simply skip them.
Why you fealt the need to broadcast your opinions on this
matter I have no idea. I am not defending Matt in the
slightest here, however your off topic posting should have
been sent to the moderators in an offlist email rather
than sending it to everyone on this list. I am committing
one of the worst netiquette felonies, replying to off
topic messages that appear on the surface as though it is
posted purely for the pleasure of an innocent looking
troll. I'm sure you sent this in all scencerity, but for
goodness sake, just use the delete key if you don't like
someone's posting.
Dirk Diggler <dirk_d...@yahoo.co.uk> typed the
following:
> My opinions mine alone, and I was not going to reply
> to the various postings Ghali has made these past
> weeks, as they are just childish. But, I have zero
> tolerance to racism and his recent posting is clearly
> a sign he goes too far and this sort of thing should
> not be allowed on this mailing list as it clearly very
> wrong.
>
> I am quite shocked actually that the University of
> Berkeley has allowed all the childish rants from him,
> as it is a sign of the un-professional atmosphere they
> must have with this guy. But I am very shocked if they
> employ a person that has racist view of a persons
> ethnic background and how that somehow relates to
> their abilities professionally.
>
> I personally have made a rule for future posts with
> his name to send that memessage to /dev/null and would
> urge Stalker Software to consider what rules there
> should be on this list. I do not think it would be
> tolerated to have porn on this list, and neither
> should racism be allowed.
>
> -Sean
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John Rudd
What racist comment did he make?
The only thing close that I can find is:
> Making any expectation that it will behave as an MTA will
> only lead to despair, dissapointment, and a condecending, incoherent
> rant from a Russian developer.
Which doesn't strike me as racist at all. He wasn't using a racial
slur ("Russian" is the right description of that ethnic group, last I
checked). He doesn't appear, to me, to be using it in a derogatory
manner (not making a generalization about russian developers, but
instead using it as a way to identify a particular set of developers
without using their names).
So, what was the racist remark? and if it was that one, how was it
racist?
Adam Dennis
and feel the love, baby.
(Dirk Diggler? He doesn't even have the necessary conviction of his
ideas to warrant the use of his real name.)
yours in multicultural harmony,
Adam.
Clemens Schwaighofer
On 2005/05/23, at 12:45, John Rudd wrote:
>
> What racist comment did he make?
>
> The only thing close that I can find is:
>
>
>> Making any expectation that it will behave as an MTA will
>> only lead to despair, dissapointment, and a condecending, incoherent
>> rant from a Russian developer.
>>
>
> Which doesn't strike me as racist at all. He wasn't using a racial
> slur ("Russian" is the right description of that ethnic group, last
> I checked). He doesn't appear, to me, to be using it in a
> derogatory manner (not making a generalization about russian
> developers, but instead using it as a way to identify a particular
> set of developers without using their names).
>
> So, what was the racist remark? and if it was that one, how was it
> racist?
He was just very rude in my opinion, his answer was totaly off-topic.
He was not racist. And when I read the (other useless rant) from Dirk
Diggler (what about real names, at least on this ML here), I first
didn't get what he was referring too.
But the overall tone here is really evil, nobody can say something
without getting a rude hateful response. This is like any admin group
on usenet. What's wrong with you guys? Seriously, this list should
solve problems and not starting a flame war.
I wished Stalker would say something, and make clear, that this kind
of off topic posting should stop.
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Peter Back
of cheap scotch -- I believe I misread, misspelt, misunderstood and then
vomited.
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misconfiguration if run in parallel with the CGP admin interface.
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Stefan Seiz
The law states that: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability
of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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Peter Back
"Nevertheless, there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any
intentional invocation of Godwin's law for its thread-ending effects
will be unsuccessful. See 'Quirk's exception' ..."
Matt Ghali
As far as I can tell, "Dirk Diggler" continues to be a member of
this list. That's pretty liberal.
Would i recieve the same treatment if I called Vlad a rapist?
matto
On Mon, 23 May 2005, Peter Back wrote:
Except unfortunately, from your link...
"Nevertheless, there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any intentional
invocation of Godwin's law for its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.
See 'Quirk's exception' ..."
Stefan Seiz wrote:
> May i call Godwin's law here befor it's too late ;-)
>
> The law states that: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability
> of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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list, after it being silent for 24 hours, to make sure it was still up
and running.
Jason Hooper wrote:
> Wow
>
> ..
Peter Back
>I just wish people would stop calling me a racist.
>
>As far as I can tell, "Dirk Diggler" continues to be a member of
>this list. That's pretty liberal.
>
>Would i recieve the same treatment if I called Vlad a rapist?
>
>
I'm guessing that's a typo, you clearly meant racist not rapist -- or is
that a bizarre literary reference, Vlad the Impaler?
Matt Ghali
I'm guessing that's a typo, you clearly meant racist not rapist --
or is that a bizarre literary reference, Vlad the Impaler?
No typo. I am just curious about why "Dirk" was allowed to make
such an allegation. My question was whether I would have enjoyed the
same leniency had I directed such an attack at a Stalker employee.
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Stefan Seiz
> I just wish people would stop calling me a racist.
Now you mix up facts in the same manner Dirk Diggler did.
I was not calling anyone a nazi. Dare you I am german and I am very, very
careful with this.
All I did was to point to Godwin's law which has to do with the probability
of the term nazi apperaing in a thread the longer the thread gets ...;-)
And that is exactly the direction this thread was taking.
Just read the message again - carefuly.
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Martin Miller - AnotherSphere
My delete finger is getting really tired!
Communigate Forum
do you suppose for just one moment that dirk is just a spoiler looking
to cause trouble?
i'm sure nobody here imagines for one moment that matt is a racist..
one would think that the best thing to do is let it drop asap..
instead of giving dirk what he wants, which is this nonsense being
discussed 2 days after his rather strange accusation..
when was the last post dirk made on this subject?
i can only assume he is watching the fuss with a smirk on his face
having got what he wanted..
come on chaps.. obviously a load of tosh, let it die like it deserves..
rup