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Robert Opalko

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:51:30 PM1/7/10
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We're a small organization that's been using CGPro with great success on
the email side for 3+ years now. Couple of hundred email accounts.
Some mobile users, and some calendar sharing (not a lot). I'm getting
some increasing static to run something like Sharepoint for document
sharing, wiki's and blogs (most just announcements). I've looked at
Windows Sharepoint Services (not MOSS) but this needs to be accessible
by remote offices that are not on the same local area network (so it
would be over the Internet). What other tools are organizations using
here for this sort of thing? It would be nice to have an open source
solution of course, but I just don't know what's out there. It would be
nice if it could run on the same server as our CGPro (RH Linux), but not
a deal breaker.
Cheers,
Robert Opalko

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Elliot Wilen

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:21:02 PM1/7/10
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Well, last I checked, CGP does have document sharing with permissions control.

http://www.communigate.com/CommunigatePro/FileStore.html

I haven't used it personally, but FTP/WebDAV/Http access, as advertised, seems pretty good, although AFAICT it doesn't have built-in wiki & blog support.

Zimbra, which basically competes with CGate in most categories (other than Signals), also has a pretty good document-storage/sharing system. I don't think it provides ftp access, and there are conflicting reports on WebDAV functionality; on the other hand, it has built-in web-based document editing (sort of like Google docs) with a kind of wiki functionality. It's available in a FOSS version. I would not run it on the same machine as CGate unless you put it in a VM and/or did careful testing of how to close/reassign ports to prevent conflicts.

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:55:53 PM1/7/10
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Thanks.  Yes, I've used the folders part of Communigate.  It's a clunky interface, and I have yet to get the folders to share properly (or even show up outside of the Pronto interface).   The blog and wiki parts are a necessary feature in what I'm looking for.
Cheers,
Robert Opalko

Gavin Lawrie

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:42:59 PM1/7/10
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You might want to try Snow Leopard Server. Comes with pretty reasonable blog / wiki system out of the box, and plays nicely with CGP (we run CGP on SLS).

Apple have worked on the configuration tools, and SLS is much easier to work with than Leopard Server was.

Not so expensive and unlimited licenses make it cost effective too. I'm not sure, but suspect you would be able to migrate your CGP setup to the OS X version fairly easily.

Best regards

Gavin Lawrie


On 7 Jan 2010, at 21:51, Robert Opalko wrote:

> We're a small organization that's been using CGPro with great success on the email side for 3+ years now. Couple of hundred email accounts. Some mobile users, and some calendar sharing (not a lot). I'm getting some increasing static to run something like Sharepoint for document sharing, wiki's and blogs (most just announcements). I've looked at Windows Sharepoint Services (not MOSS) but this needs to be accessible by remote offices that are not on the same local area network (so it would be over the Internet). What other tools are organizations using here for this sort of thing? It would be nice to have an open source solution of course, but I just don't know what's out there. It would be nice if it could run on the same server as our CGPro (RH Linux), but not a deal breaker.

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Elliot Wilen

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:52:26 PM1/7/10
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On Jan 7, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Gavin Lawrie wrote:

> Not so expensive and unlimited licenses make it cost effective too. I'm not sure, but suspect you would be able to migrate your CGP setup to the OS X version fairly easily.


Even though it could certainly run CGP well, you might want to make sure that your favorite antivirus/antispam plugins will work under OS X. That said, a Mac Mini is cheap and would be very adequate in my experience; Apple is even offering a bundle with SL server these days. Even if you don't consolidate CGP onto the same machine, it won't take up much space or use much power.

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Pascal Robert

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:12:21 PM1/7/10
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Alfresco is the way to go. Java based so you can run it on Linux,
Solaris, Windows or OS X. You can even access your documents by IMAP
(other ECM only have Outlook plugins). They also implement the
Sharepoint protocol so your MS Office users can access the documents
from within Office apps (you can also access them by WebDAV, Web, SMB
or FTP).

Gavin Lawrie

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:27:25 PM1/7/10
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On 8 Jan 2010, at 00:52, Elliot Wilen wrote:

> Even though it could certainly run CGP well, you might want to make sure that your favorite antivirus/antispam plugins will work under OS X.

We use Nicolas Hatier's / Niversoft's antivirus / antispam filters and they work fine under OS X (as does most of his stuff).

Regards

Gavin Lawrie

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Shaun Gamble

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Jan 8, 2010, 1:19:37 AM1/8/10
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On 8/01/2010 7:51 AM, Robert Opalko wrote:
> We're a small organization that's been using CGPro with great success
> on the email side for 3+ years now. Couple of hundred email
> accounts. Some mobile users, and some calendar sharing (not a lot).
> I'm getting some increasing static to run something like Sharepoint
> for document sharing, wiki's and blogs (most just announcements).
> I've looked at Windows Sharepoint Services (not MOSS) but this needs
> to be accessible by remote offices that are not on the same local area
> network (so it would be over the Internet). What other tools are
> organizations using here for this sort of thing? It would be nice to
> have an open source solution of course, but I just don't know what's
> out there. It would be nice if it could run on the same server as our
> CGPro (RH Linux), but not a deal breaker.
> Cheers,
> Robert Opalko
>

This may sound like a strange suggestion but why don't you take a look
at Geeklog? It obviously won't integrate anywhere near the ease of
Sharepoint but it's free. It will also run nicely on your current server.

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Pascal Robert

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:53:26 AM1/8/10
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Oh, I forgot, Atlassian Confluence can be a solution too, especially
if the wiki part is the most important for you.

Robert Opalko

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:31:57 AM1/8/10
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Are you referring to the open source version of Alfresco? We looked at
the commercial edition last year and it was far out of our budget range.
Cheers,
Robert Opalko

Pascal Robert

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:44:45 AM1/8/10
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For basic stuff, the open source version will do the job. For
commercial, you are right, since support is paid per server and not
per user, the cost can be really high for small orgs.

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Robert Opalko

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:35:35 AM1/11/10
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Shaun Gamble wrote:
> This may sound like a strange suggestion but why don't you take a look
> at Geeklog? It obviously won't integrate anywhere near the ease of
> Sharepoint but it's free. It will also run nicely on your current server.
>
I like the idea of Geeklog but it's probably beyond the skill of our
users. Anyone using Backpack?
Cheers

shirleyric...@gmail.com

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I have signed up for a free SharePoint site hosting solution with http://www.cloudappsportal.com and the results till now are good for me.
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