How to: Create a cgpro mailstore from a pile of message files?
James Moe
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Hello,
We have an ancient mail program that stores its messages using the
filesystem's directory to store the messages, i.e., the directory
structure is the mail's hierarchy as well. Each message is a separate file.
What are some ways to transfer the message files into an existing CGpro
account or folder?
Is there an import mechanism to do this?
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Storing things separately is good...unless you have millions of users. Is that the issue?
James Moe
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On 11/12/09 04:37 pm, Karl wrote:
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> Storing things separately is good...unless you have millions of users. Is that the issue?
>
Clearly I was not clear.
I wish to import the message files currently administered by some other
mail user agent into CGpro. I have no problem manually creating the users'
folder hierarchy, there are only a few users; I just do not know how to
get the message files into CGpro's users' folders.
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James Moe on 13.11.2009 4:25 wrote:
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> On 11/12/09 04:37 pm, Karl wrote:
>> Storing things separately is good...unless you have millions of users. Is that the issue?
>>
> Clearly I was not clear.
> I wish to import the message files currently administered by some other
> mail user agent into CGpro.
If that mail agent is still alive and supports IMAP - it would be best
to use MoveIMAPMail program to transfer those messages with mail folder
hierarchy
<http://www.communigate.com/CommuniGatePro/Migration.html#IMAPMove>
> I have no problem manually creating the users'
> folder hierarchy, there are only a few users; I just do not know how to
> get the message files into CGpro's users' folders.
Messages must be in rfc822 format and with names in format described in
<http://www.communigate.com/CommuniGatePro/Mailboxes.html#mdir>
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James Moe
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On 11/12/09 07:14 pm, Technical Support, Stalker Labs wrote:
> I wish to import the message files currently administered by some other
> mail user agent into CGpro.
>
>> If that mail agent is still alive and supports IMAP - it would be best
>> to use MoveIMAPMail program to transfer those messages with mail folder
>> hierarchy
>> <http://www.communigate.com/CommuniGatePro/Migration.html#IMAPMove>
>
Sadly, no. It is primitive and only supports SMTP and POP3.
>
>> > I have no problem manually creating the users'
> folder hierarchy, there are only a few users; I just do not know how to
> get the message files into CGpro's users' folders.
>
>> Messages must be in rfc822 format and with names in format described in
>> <http://www.communigate.com/CommuniGatePro/Mailboxes.html#mdir>
>
All of the accounts on CGpro currently use the mbox format; it is the
default choice.
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Brian Gibson
James Moe
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On 11/13/09 11:13 am, Brian Gibson wrote:
> We ran into a similar situation with our old mail server, we just pulled
> down a copy of Washington Universities free IMAP server and ran it.
>
I do not understand how this would help.
After installing the server, is there an option to point it at some
arbitrary mailstore and it does things to it?
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Nicolas Hatier
If you need direct help solving this issue, I can examine your configuration and come up with a simple solution or a script.
Just contact me offlist if you want.
Regards
Nicolas Hatier
James Moe wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/09 11:13 am, Brian Gibson wrote:We ran into a similar situation with our old mail server, we just pulled down a copy of Washington Universities free IMAP server and ran it.I do not understand how this would help. After installing the server, is there an option to point it at some arbitrary mailstore and it does things to it?
Nicolas Hatier <nicolas...@niversoft.com>
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Jakob Peterhänsel
James Moe
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On 11/15/09 12:59 pm, Jakob Peterh�nsel wrote:
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> So, download all the mails in an application like Apple Mail, and drag
> them to the CGP IMAP account.
>
> Anyhow, how can there be a hierarchy if it only supports POP3? POP only
> supports a single INBOX..
>
There is no server. The messages have been transferred to each user's
host and deleted from the server.
The "hierarchy" is how the MUA organizes its mailstore on the local
host. It creates a (sub)directory for each (sub)folder, and moves the
message files into each (sub)directory as requested by the user.
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James Moe
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On 11/12/09 04:33 pm, James Moe wrote:
> Hello,
> We have an ancient mail program that stores its messages using the
> filesystem's directory to store the messages, i.e., the directory
> structure is the mail's hierarchy as well. Each message is a separate file.
> What are some ways to transfer the message files into an existing CGpro
> account or folder?
> Is there an import mechanism to do this?
>
There is no server to access the message files. Only the files
themselves exist separated into directories.
Is there a CLI function that can add a message to a folder?
There are a lot of account and folder functions but I did not see one
that would actually add a message.
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Karl Zander
Or maybe post a sample message.
You are not giving us much to go on.
--Karl
Nicolas Hatier
James Moe wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/09 04:33 pm, James Moe wrote:Hello, We have an ancient mail program that stores its messages using the filesystem's directory to store the messages, i.e., the directory structure is the mail's hierarchy as well. Each message is a separate file. What are some ways to transfer the message files into an existing CGpro account or folder? Is there an import mechanism to do this?There is no server to access the message files. Only the files themselves exist separated into directories. Is there a CLI function that can add a message to a folder? There are a lot of account and folder functions but I did not see one that would actually add a message.
Regards
Nicolas Hatier
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James Moe
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On 11/19/09 03:50 pm, Nicolas Hatier wrote:
>>>
>> There is no server to access the message files. Only the files
>> themselves exist separated into directories.
>>
>> Is there a CLI function that can add a message to a folder?
>> There are a lot of account and folder functions but I did not see one
>> that would actually add a message.
>>
> No, CLI is not meant for that. You can use IMAP and the APPEND commend,
> or do it via the filesystem (you just have to name the files correctly,
> then restart CGP, and the server will see the new messages)
>
There is no source server.
Could you expand on the filesystem concept? Do you mean I just copy the
message files into an account folder, fire up CGPro and it imports them,
and I could remove the files later? Even if the folders are mbox's?
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James Moe
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On 11/19/09 03:49 pm, Karl Zander wrote:
> Does this software have any type of name? And its version? If you can share that someone may recognize it and be able offer some help.
>
PMMail for os/2, currently at version 3.0.
> Or maybe post a sample message.
>
Each message file is the RFC822 message almost exactly as it was
received. "Almost" meaning spam filter headers may have been added. No
mbox, no mdir, just the bare naked message. Each file is an email message.
> You are not giving us much to go on.
>
There is not much to say about a pile of files.
There is no server involved.
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Nicolas Hatier
James Moe wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/09 03:50 pm, Nicolas Hatier wrote:There is no server to access the message files. Only the files themselves exist separated into directories. Is there a CLI function that can add a message to a folder? There are a lot of account and folder functions but I did not see one that would actually add a message.No, CLI is not meant for that. You can use IMAP and the APPEND commend, or do it via the filesystem (you just have to name the files correctly, then restart CGP, and the server will see the new messages)There is no source server. Could you expand on the filesystem concept? Do you mean I just copy the message files into an account folder, fire up CGPro and it imports them, and I could remove the files later? Even if the folders are mbox's?
Say you have a mailstore:
mailstore/account/mailbox/message1
mailstore/account/mailbox/message2
mailstore/account/mailbox/message3...
You go into cgp, you make sure "account" is created. Then, you shut it down.
Then, you move the three files above to the CGP base directory (/var/Communigate/...) so they look like this:
/var/Communigate/Accounts/account.macnt/mailbox.mdir/IIII-S_______-YYYYMMDDHHMMSS-LLL
where IIII is a unique, increasing ID
YYYYMMDDHHMMSS is a timestamp, ideally created from the message's Date: header
and LLL is the number of lines in the file.
You make sure the file content is valid RFC-822 message, with the proper EOL character (LF or CRLF depending on the platform), and when you'll restart CGP they will appear in the account as if CGP put them there by itself.
NH
David Brookfield
Hello there again guys, I've not seen anything on getting Blackberry
desktop syncing in a while, is it still broken? I've got a user who is
running Win 7 with office 2007 (Latest MAPI) they downloaded BB desktop
4.7 installed it and it wiped out the Mail client completely. By this I
mean they couldn't open outlook afetr the install and received a
couldn't open mail store error ( I can't give the exact error I'm afraid
as I can't get access to the machine yet)
Anyone have a best practice for getting BB desktop working? Using
astrasync isn't an option simply due to price.
Many thanks
David
Hannes Hromadka
Hello:
> On 11/19/09 03:49 pm, Karl Zander wrote:
>> Does this software have any type of name? And its version? If you can share that someone may recognize it and be able offer some help.
>
> PMMail for os/2, currently at version 3.0.
I'm also using this program. I have version 2.x on Warp and Win.
Migrating to a new mailer and storing the mails on CGPro is on my to do
list.
There exist some Rexx scripts that convert PMMail messages to a
thunderbid mailbox on your client PC.
With thunderbird you can move the mails to your CGPro IMAP store.
There are 3 tools on hobbes. All need Rexx, so you should have a PC with
OS/2 at hand.
pmm2moz
http://www.os2site.com/sw/internet/mail/convert/pmm2moz.zip
Convert PMMail *.msg files to Mozilla / Thunderbird format. This version
corrects a glitch that caused an error when the converted.msgs file was
indexed. Requires OS/2 4.0 & later or eCS 1.0 & later, REXXLIB.DLL
(included in distribution); REXX must be enabled (use Classic REXX).
>From David W. Eckman.
pmm2tb
http://www.os2site.com/sw/internet/mail/convert/pmm2tb.zip
A small tool named PMM2TB to convert all PMMail messages and the address
book to a format Thunderbird (and Mozilla) can import. From Robert.
and pmm_tbird
http://www.os2site.com/sw/internet/mail/convert/pmm_tbird.zip
Migrate mail from PMMail to Thunderbird. Two Rexx scripts, one to copy
all of your PMMail mail folders to Thunderbird mail folders (requires
some manual post-processing), and one to migrate your address books.
Requires OS/2 v3.x or higher, PMMail, Thunderbird. From Peter Moylan. -
There are also some tools to convert the address books.
I did not try any of them yet.
Please let me know if the tools work for you.
Hannes