Old articles keep coming back
Barry Oakley
newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
that I take.
Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
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Peter Ceresole
> I've just had news items from 2006 come into the demon.announce
> newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
> that I take.
>
> Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
It might be, if it's the first time you're accessing those groups using
the article numbers, or after you've reset them in Turnpike by e.g
resubscribing to them. But from that time on, it should all work.
I use a newsreader that never supported NEWNEWS, getting news from NIN,
and never get duplicates unless I deliberately set out to do so. When I
used news.d.c.u, it worked just the same.
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Roy Brown
<Nos...@nospam.invalid> writes
>I've just had news items from 2006 come into the demon.announce
>newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
>that I take.
>
>Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
Not at all. It's just that Demon's Crack Legal Team have finally okayed
these messages for release.
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Adrian V Stokes
best idea(!) was that my system clock was inaccurate (by many years!!!).
In at least one Newsgroup, if I either mark the articles as read or
remove them altogether, they reappear. Although some are very old, most
are early to mid-2009.
I would also be grateful for an explanation
Adrian
In a message sent on Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 09:34:50, Barry Oakley
<Nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
>I've just had news items from 2006 come into the demon.announce
>newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
>that I take.
>
>Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
>
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email: Adrian...@cat-ltd.demon.co.uk
Ian Jackson
<Adrian...@cat-ltd.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>In a message sent on Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 09:34:50, Barry Oakley
><Nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
>>I've just had news items from 2006 come into the demon.announce
>>newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
>>that I take.
>>
>>Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
>>
>
>best idea(!) was that my system clock was inaccurate (by many years!!!).
>
>In at least one Newsgroup, if I either mark the articles as read or
>remove them altogether, they reappear. Although some are very old,
>most are early to mid-2009.
>
So maybe your system clock IS a little inaccurate after all?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist it).
>I would also be grateful for an explanation
>
>Adrian
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Doug
<Adrian...@cat-ltd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I've had exactly the same problem. I contacted the "Helpdesk" whose
>best idea(!) was that my system clock was inaccurate (by many years!!!).
>
>In at least one Newsgroup, if I either mark the articles as read or
>remove them altogether, they reappear. Although some are very old, most
>are early to mid-2009.
>
>I would also be grateful for an explanation
It will probably be down to a 'feature' of your newsreader, if a
message is present on the server, the newsreader can read it. I have
also seen this happening from time to time, particularly with long
retention news groups, especially if I alter properties for that
group.
It would help if you told us what newsreader you are using.
Doug.
Adrian V Stokes
<NN...@taymade.demon.co.uk> wrote
>On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:19:55 +0000, Adrian V Stokes
><Adrian...@cat-ltd.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I've had exactly the same problem. I contacted the "Helpdesk" whose
>>best idea(!) was that my system clock was inaccurate (by many years!!!).
>>
>>In at least one Newsgroup, if I either mark the articles as read or
>>remove them altogether, they reappear. Although some are very old, most
>>are early to mid-2009.
>>
>>I would also be grateful for an explanation
Sorry for the date error - usually I refer to 2008 for most of 2009!
>
>It will probably be down to a 'feature' of your newsreader, if a
>message is present on the server, the newsreader can read it. I have
>also seen this happening from time to time, particularly with long
>retention news groups, especially if I alter properties for that
>group.
>
>It would help if you told us what newsreader you are using.
Apologies for omitting this - it's Turnpike (V6.05) running on XP Home
(not that that's likely to be relevant)
>
>Doug.
>
>>
>>Adrian
>>
>>
>>
>>In a message sent on Tue, 6 Jan 2009 at 09:34:50, Barry Oakley
>><Nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote
>>>I've just had news items from 2006 come into the demon.announce
>>>newsgroup. This has also happened on several other low usage groups
>>>that I take.
>>>
>>>Is this just a consequence of losing the newnews capability?
>>>
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Adrian V Stokes
Re my previous post, I've noticed a most curious thing. The full header
of a very old article is as follows:
From: "Malcolm S. Muir" <Mal...@demon.net>
Newsgroups: demon.announce
Subject: Demon Webmail Service
Followup-To: demon.service
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:52:24 +0000
Organization: Demon Internet Ltd.
Lines: 30
Approved: mal...@demon.net
Message-ID: <bHhlsVAI...@demon.net>
Reply-To: help...@demon.net
NNTP-Posting-Host: muir-et4.staff.demon.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1130864488 12686 194.159.240.5 (1 Nov 2005
17:01:28 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:01:28 +0000 (UTC)
X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U
<bS3grvfX$o+p8Jofc680ZqzcmN>
Path:
textbe01-phx!hwmnpeer02.phx!hw-filter.phx!hwmnpeer01.phx!hwmedia!newsfeed
1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!solnet.ch!soln
et.ch!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!news.amigo.co.uk!peer.news.zetnet.net
!194.159.246.34.MISMATCH!peer-uk.news.demon.net!kibo.news.demon.net!mutlu
.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!demon.net!Malcolm
Xref: Hurricane-Charley demon.announce:27
X-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:05:20 MST (textbe01-phx)
Two points of interest. First, the "X-Received-Date" is about the same
as the posting date (give or take timezone differences, although I've no
idea why MST in the former) which is over three years ago! Secondly,
the "X-Newsreader" is TP version 5.01 which I haven't used for a very
long time (and it's a Universal licence which I've not had!).
From time to time (at least every week), I use the "rebuild database"
feature so any old messages should have disappeared completely anyway.
Any explanations gratefully received
Adrian
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Richard Clayton
<Adrian...@cat-ltd.demon.co.uk> writes
>Re my previous post, I've noticed a most curious thing. The full header
>of a very old article is as follows:
>
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:01:28 +0000 (UTC)
>Xref: Hurricane-Charley demon.announce:27
>X-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 10:05:20 MST (textbe01-phx)
>
>
>Two points of interest. First, the "X-Received-Date" is about the same
>as the posting date (give or take timezone differences, although I've no
>idea why MST in the former)
because that's Hurricane's configured timezone
> which is over three years ago!
yes, your point being ?
> Secondly,
>the "X-Newsreader" is TP version 5.01 which I haven't used for a very
>long time (and it's a Universal licence which I've not had!).
The X-Newsreader reports what software Malcolm is using
>From time to time (at least every week), I use the "rebuild database"
>feature so any old messages should have disappeared completely anyway.
What will have happened is that after the rebuild (or otherwise)
Turnpike has concluded that it is unsure that it has all possible
demon.announce articles, so it has fetched the last 50 to be sure
>Any explanations gratefully received
Doesn't seem like a demon.service issue to me :(
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