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Wm...  
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 More options May 5 2012, 1:49 pm
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From: "Wm..." <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 18:49:30 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 1:49 pm
Subject: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email

My first glance at
===
http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
===
this evening.  Are there really thousands of people viewing this stuff?

2567 "New Email Service - Coming Soon!"

1823 "New email service and your postmaster@ email address"

1788 "Email Migration: FAQs"

and

1019    email migration

1034    Demon Email Management Portal

1163    New Demon Email Service

I haven't grabbed all the unique stuff but at face value we're looking
at around
10K+ postings before we get into the sub 500 threads.

WTF is going on?

I'm certainly not getting info about the change.  Mind you I'm probably
in a good position in that it won't make a big difference to me as I
moved my main addresses away from demon a while back.

To add to the fun the address that I *must* receive e-mail for
(postmaster@) is, as other people have noted, the one that isn't getting
e-mail about the change.

Sigh

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Simon Clubley  
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 More options May 5 2012, 2:12 pm
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From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 18:12:05 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
On 2012-05-05, Wm... <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> wrote:

> My first glance at
>===
> http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
>===
> this evening.  Are there really thousands of people viewing this stuff?

I wonder if they are including robots in the totals ?

[snip]

> 1034    Demon Email Management Portal

> 1163    New Demon Email Service

> I haven't grabbed all the unique stuff but at face value we're looking
> at around
> 10K+ postings before we get into the sub 500 threads.

I assume you meant to write views instead of postings. :-)

Simon.

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John Hall  
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 More options May 5 2012, 3:17 pm
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From: John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 20:17:39 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
In article <3N3R9VFqgWpPFwp8@[127.0.0.1]>,

 Wm... <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> writes:

>My first glance at
>===
>http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
>===
>this evening.  Are there really thousands of people viewing this stuff?

<snip>

>WTF is going on?

There are all sorts of bots traversing the web these days, some benign
ones from search engine sites and some that are malevolent.

>I'm certainly not getting info about the change.  Mind you I'm
>probably in a good position in that it won't make a big difference
>to me as I moved my main addresses away from demon a while
>back.

>To add to the fun the address that I *must* receive e-mail for
>(postmaster@) is, as other people have noted, the one that isn't
>getting e-mail about the change.

>Sigh

AIUI, it's only the final email - the one that tells you precisely when
you are being migrated and what your password well be, as well I assume
repeating the info that was in the earlier emails - that will go to
postmaster.
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John Hall  
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 More options May 5 2012, 4:19 pm
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From: John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:19:56 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
In article <cbeg79-okb....@llondel.org>,

 Dave <noon...@llondel.org> writes:
>Wm... wrote:

>> My first glance at
>> ===
>> http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
>> ===

>Life's too short to go check out every bloody forum. That's what usenet is
>for, one easy place to find everything. RSS is tolerable, but it still
>relies on people going and searching out the individual feeds.

You're preaching to the converted here. But unfortunately Demon don't
seem to agree with us. :(
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Wm...  
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 More options May 5 2012, 4:28 pm
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From: "Wm..." <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:28:56 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
Sat, 5 May 2012 21:15:07 <cbeg79-okb....@llondel.org> demon.service Dave
<noon...@llondel.org>

>Wm... wrote:

>> My first glance at
>> ===
>> http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
>> ===

>Life's too short to go check out every bloody forum. That's what usenet is
>for, one easy place to find everything. RSS is tolerable, but it still
>relies on people going and searching out the individual feeds.

Nevermind that the original agreement was that we had to read
postmaster@

Has anyone had a variation to say that something other than a message to
postmaster@ is a variation?

Some of us have contracts that go back decades, after all

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 More options May 5 2012, 4:23 pm
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From: "Wm..." <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:23:25 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
Sat, 5 May 2012 20:17:39 <zKOippDTzXpPF...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>
demon.service John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>

>AIUI, it's only the final email - the one that tells you precisely when
>you are being migrated and what your password well be, as well I assume
>repeating the info that was in the earlier emails - that will go to
>postmaster.

They're going to change my postmaster@ password arbitrarily?  Surely
not!

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 More options May 5 2012, 5:16 pm
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From: "Wm..." <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 22:16:53 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
Sat, 5 May 2012 21:19:56 <k3x3WOLstYpPF...@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>
demon.service John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>

You could join me on social media.

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John Hall  
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 More options May 5 2012, 5:15 pm
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From: John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 22:15:50 +0100
Local: Sat, May 5 2012 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
In article <VzS5icG9wYpPFwPa@[127.0.0.1]>,

 Wm... <tcn...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> writes:
>Sat, 5 May 2012 20:17:39 <zKOippDTzXpPF...@jhall.demon.co.uk
>.invalid> demon.service John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>

>>AIUI, it's only the final email - the one that tells you precisely when
>>you are being migrated and what your password well be, as well I assume
>>repeating the info that was in the earlier emails - that will go to
>>postmaster.

>They're going to change my postmaster@ password arbitrarily?
>Surely not!

They will have to set up a password for you on the new mail server to
allow you to connect to it. Once you have been migrated, you can of
course change that password to whatever you like.
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 More options May 6 2012, 8:36 pm
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From: Eileen Conn <e.c...@nutbrook.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 01:36:26 +0100
Local: Sun, May 6 2012 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
In message <p25i79-db5....@llondel.org>, Dave <noon...@llondel.org>
writes

>Wm... wrote:
>> Has anyone had a variation to say that something other than a message to
>> postmaster@ is a variation?
>> Some of us have contracts that go back decades, after all

>Yes, me too.  (Or <AOL> for those from that era). Almost 20 years I've been
>here now, despite being really close to the door a few times. So far it's
>always been more effort to leave than fix the problem, possibly because now
>the only thing I need is the static IP and the connectivity. Usenet is nice,
>but that duplicates something I get elsewhere. I don't think I use any of
>Demon's other services.

I signed up with Demon in 1996. The main attraction then was the 24/7
fantastic phone technical support, now of course all gone long ago. I
have kept with them because I have my 7000 email address book and my
management of it tied up with Turnpike which gives me enough of what I
need just in the way I manage the big email list.

I have never found another email system which seems to give me what I am
now used to, and could never find a London support service that knows
anything about Turnpike and understands what I do with it, that I could
have full confidence in to do the right thing in any change. There are
enough who say they know and have made a mess of small things so make me
feel ill at the thought of embarking on any dramatic changes.

I have just looked at the demon forum exchanges and they terrify me as
people seem to be talking about having to use MS Outlook which will be
the end of my ability to do what I am doing.

Needless to say, but I will, this current uncertainty is very stressful.
I am so dependent on my email system and address book for my work which
is significantly time dependent, and I have no personal capacity to give
to computer upsets. So thank goodness for this small sane corner of the
computer universe which has an intelligible conversation about what we
all seem to be facing.

Eileen


 
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John Hall  
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 More options May 7 2012, 5:57 am
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From: John Hall <nospam_no...@jhall.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:57:58 +0100
Local: Mon, May 7 2012 5:57 am
Subject: Re: http://forum.demon.net/forum/email
In article <fX+v7vZKkxpPF...@nutbrook.demon.co.uk>,
 Eileen Conn <e.c...@nutbrook.demon.co.uk> writes:
<snip>

>I have just looked at the demon forum exchanges and they terrify
>me as people seem to be talking about having to use MS Outlook
>which will be the end of my ability to do what I am doing.

There is definitely no need to use MS Outlook, and there shouldn't be
any need for you to stop using Turnpike (on the assumption that the
instructions for TP users to use the new email server which Demon have
produced work as claimed). I suspect that it's merely that Outlook is
the only email client which many of those joining Demon comparatively
recently (ie within the last ten years or so) know anything about.
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