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Alan Hourihane

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Dec 21, 2009, 10:53:07 AM12/21/09
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Just done a test via speedtest.net and getting 150ms ping times and
horribly slow speeds today.

Dead giveaway is that streaming movies keep breaking up via iplayer.

Anyone else ?

Alan.

Peter Ceresole

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:38:25 AM12/21/09
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Alan Hourihane <al...@fairlite.co.uk> wrote:

> Dead giveaway is that streaming movies keep breaking up via iplayer.
>
> Anyone else ?

I haven't tested ping times, but everything looks perfectly quick and
the iPlayer here is streaming fine.

Dulwich exchange, ASDL2+
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Alan Hourihane

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:42:50 AM12/21/09
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On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:38 +0000, Peter Ceresole wrote:
> Alan Hourihane <al...@fairlite.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Dead giveaway is that streaming movies keep breaking up via iplayer.
> >
> > Anyone else ?
>
> I haven't tested ping times, but everything looks perfectly quick and
> the iPlayer here is streaming fine.

Normally I get around 42ms, but today it's a tad over 150ms.

I'm barely getting over 1.5Mb/s too, whereas normally I'm at 4Mb/s.

Alan.

John Hall

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:30:30 PM12/21/09
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In article <1261410787.1...@jetpack.demon.co.uk>,

Looking at my graph of ping times on flure, it shows them increasing
from the normal 40 or so to reach about 140 between about 12:30pm and
4:30pm, since when it's fallen back to 40 again. I had thought this
feature of a "plateau" during the working day (or in this case the
working afternoon) was now a thing of the past. My guess is that it's
returned because Internet usage is currently exceptionally high, with
workers trying to get tasks finished before they go on holiday for
Christmas.
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G8KBV

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Dec 21, 2009, 4:14:07 PM12/21/09
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In article <1261410787.1...@jetpack.demon.co.uk>,
al...@fairlite.co.uk says...

Yes, it's "pants" here too today (Buckingham) So much so, I've given
up using 'net based sources for my timekeeping needs. I now have a
local GPS driven NTP server here, working fine. uS precision, instead
of 100's of mS variation during the day.

Cheers.

Dave B.

Denis McMahon

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:48:13 PM12/21/09
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G8KBV wrote:

> Yes, it's "pants" here too today (Buckingham) So much so, I've given
> up using 'net based sources for my timekeeping needs. I now have a
> local GPS driven NTP server here, working fine. uS precision, instead
> of 100's of mS variation during the day.

Sensible ntp software works network delays into the equation.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

David Quinton

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:42:06 AM12/22/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:30:30 +0000, John Hall
<nospam...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

>Looking at my graph of ping times on flure, it shows them increasing
>from the normal 40 or so to reach about 140 between about 12:30pm and
>4:30pm, since when it's fallen back to 40 again. I had thought this
>feature of a "plateau" during the working day (or in this case the
>working afternoon) was now a thing of the past. My guess is that it's
>returned because Internet usage is currently exceptionally high, with
>workers trying to get tasks finished before they go on holiday for
>Christmas.

http://f8lure.mouselike.org/archived_graphs/westek.bizorg.co.uk_day21.png

which is all I seem able to expect from Demon nowadays.
Looks like congestion/shaping to me?
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Pedt

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Dec 22, 2009, 4:25:20 AM12/22/09
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In message <g0u0j5t6imgmen12e...@4ax.com>, at 07:42:06 on
Tue, 22 Dec 2009, David Quinton
<usenet_20...@REMOVETHISBITbizorg.co.uk> wibbled

>On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:30:30 +0000, John Hall
><nospam...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Looking at my graph of ping times on flure, it shows them increasing
>>from the normal 40 or so to reach about 140 between about 12:30pm and
>>4:30pm, since when it's fallen back to 40 again. I had thought this
>>feature of a "plateau" during the working day (or in this case the
>>working afternoon) was now a thing of the past. My guess is that it's
>>returned because Internet usage is currently exceptionally high, with
>>workers trying to get tasks finished before they go on holiday for
>>Christmas.
>
>http://f8lure.mouselike.org/archived_graphs/westek.bizorg.co.uk_day21.png
>
>which is all I seem able to expect from Demon nowadays.
>Looks like congestion/shaping to me?

Well, if it is, it wasn't happening to me yesterday:
http://f8lure.mouselike.org/archived_graphs/pedt.demon.co.uk_day21.png

(The bit on the LHS was me uploading to a server).

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Pedt

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:42:12 AM12/23/09
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In message <0ic1j5teb57gh4mma...@4ax.com>, at 11:51:05 on
Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Mike Henry <{$mrtickle$}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wibbled
>In <tGFaAlZA...@stuff-the-spammers.mx2.org.uk>, Pedt <"\"@

>@\""@operations.force9.net> wrote:
>
>>Well, if it is, it wasn't happening to me yesterday:
>>http://f8lure.mouselike.org/archived_graphs/pedt.demon.co.uk_day21.png
>
>Nor me:
>http://f8lure.mouselike.org/archived_graphs/mrtickle.demon.co.uk_day21.png

>
>>(The bit on the LHS was me uploading to a server).
>
>You do seem to have line problems at 13:30, 16:30 and 21:00 though?

My periods of momentary packet loss appear to co-incide with a neighbour
starting their car...

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G8KBV

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:00:24 PM12/23/09
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In article <g92dna9ryreglK3W...@giganews.com>,
denis.m....@gmail.com says...

Generaly yes, but......

Even NTPD has trouble with the service I get, resulting in slow drifts
of several hundred ms back and forth throughout the day, if I use 'net
servers as it's reference tickers.

The problem is worse, as the latency variation is always asymetric and
random. :-(

I have a local GPS referenced server now however. uS accuracy and
stable as a result. :-)

Cheers.

Dave B.

G8KBV

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:02:14 PM12/23/09
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In article <OSwSV8dU...@fishcake.eternal-september.org>, "\"@ @
\""@some.oddities-etc.co.uk says...

Ignition or Injector driver QRM, direct into the phone line (nearby,
overhead?) kicking the router as a result.

Any PLT/PLA devices in use (power line networking) ?

Dave B

Chris Marriott

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:47:40 AM12/24/09
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"G8KBV" <g8...@nospam-uko2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.259c95473...@news.demon.co.uk...

>
> Generaly yes, but......
>
> Even NTPD has trouble with the service I get, resulting in slow drifts
> of several hundred ms back and forth throughout the day, if I use 'net
> servers as it's reference tickers.
>
> The problem is worse, as the latency variation is always asymetric and
> random. :-(
>
> I have a local GPS referenced server now however. uS accuracy and
> stable as a result. :-)
>

Purely as a matter of curiosity, what application do you have that requires
microsecond-level timing accuracy?

Regards,

Chris


G8KBV

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:53:17 AM12/27/09
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In article <BxIYm.147521$ra.7...@newsfe26.ams2>, ch...@nowhere.com
says...

Hi Chris..

I have uS accuracy now, but I needed only mS accuracy, but more
importantly, a "Reliable" with "no drift" timing service, that Demon
seem unable to provide these days..

The app involved is "Faros" (Google for it, it's from "DxAtlas") That
controls a HF receiver and monitors a worldwide chain of beacons,
recording their reception strength, and timing, so as to determine if
the signal came the long or short way round.

If you go to "http://www.ncdxf.org/beacons.html" that will hopefully
explain all. The Faros program is also linked from there, under "Tools
for Listners" then under Windows etc...

You'll find my monitor status linked as "G0WBX" from the monitor
stations page.

Cheers.

Dave B (G0WBX)

Chris Marriott

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Dec 27, 2009, 1:29:06 PM12/27/09
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"G8KBV" <g8...@nospam-uko2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.25a1a148f...@news.demon.co.uk...

>
> Hi Chris..
>
> I have uS accuracy now, but I needed only mS accuracy, but more
> importantly, a "Reliable" with "no drift" timing service, that Demon
> seem unable to provide these days..
>
> The app involved is "Faros" (Google for it, it's from "DxAtlas") That
> controls a HF receiver and monitors a worldwide chain of beacons,
> recording their reception strength, and timing, so as to determine if
> the signal came the long or short way round.
>
> If you go to "http://www.ncdxf.org/beacons.html" that will hopefully
> explain all. The Faros program is also linked from there, under "Tools
> for Listners" then under Windows etc...
>
> You'll find my monitor status linked as "G0WBX" from the monitor
> stations page.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Dave B (G0WBX)
>

Fascinating! Thanks - it's always interesting to learn what other people get
up to.

Cheers,

Chris


Pedt

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:54:15 AM12/28/09
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In message <MPG.259c95b4f...@news.demon.co.uk>, at 21:02:14 on
Wed, 23 Dec 2009, G8KBV <g8...@nospam-uko2.co.uk> wibbled
>> >You do seem to have line problems at 13:30, 16:30 and 21:00 though?
>>
>> My periods of momentary packet loss appear to co-incide with a neighbour
>> starting their car...
>
>Ignition or Injector driver QRM, direct into the phone line (nearby,
>overhead?) kicking the router as a result.

Line directly above the car.


>
>Any PLT/PLA devices in use (power line networking) ?

None.

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