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Chiefy

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:51:57 AM12/4/09
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Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
as ever

Ian

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:57:34 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 8:51 am, Chiefy <chief....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
> as ever

I have no broadband connection either.
Nothing on the status telephone line or the status web page.
Line goes dead when I try to report the problem.

Ian.

Aramis Gunton

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:02:02 AM12/4/09
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"Chiefy" <chie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
> as ever

Connection is on/off all this morning.

Mostly no connection whatsoever.

(Standard ADSL)


Chiefy

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:15:48 AM12/4/09
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On 4 Dec, 09:02, "Aramis Gunton" <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> "Chiefy" <chief....@gmail.com> wrote in message

Good oh, not just me, kinda borrowed next doors wi-fi, must find out
who it is and get them to secure it ;)

seems to be DNS as it flick on and off, I have steady ADSL but cannt
actually see the internet or get anywhere.

Paul Terry

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:19:38 AM12/4/09
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In message
<94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Chiefy <chie...@gmail.com> writes

>Anyone else having issues connecting this morning?

No problem connecting to Demon, but DNS are not always resolving
promptly (and sometimes not at all on first attempt).
--
Paul Terry

ia...@null.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:21:46 AM12/4/09
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Chiefy wrote:


working fine here have a look at this or use google new public dns server at
8.8.8.8 http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

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than 50%

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Pedt

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:23:46 AM12/4/09
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In message <scqdnRzVPMybTYXW...@giganews.com>, at 09:02:02
on Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Aramis Gunton <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wibbled
ADSL2+ here. I've spotted that downloads & uploads go in bursts this
morning. Get full speed when it's doing something but 30 second pauses
in between the doing something.

Quick screenshot of trying to download ls-lR from Demon's FTP server.
http://www.pedt.demon.co.uk/stutter.gif top of the graph is 15mbps.
Overall download speed ~4.9mbps.

Appears something is awry.

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Les

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:47:59 AM12/4/09
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In message <Nd1KRVCq...@musonix.demon.co.uk>, Paul Terry
<ne...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

Came back up here at 09:40 before that an occasional burst of life and
was the same using Demon or Open DNS.
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Les

Aramis Gunton

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:50:17 AM12/4/09
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"Chiefy" <chie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 4 Dec, 09:02, "Aramis Gunton" <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Chiefy" <chief....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
>> > as ever
>>
>> Connection is on/off all this morning.
>>
>> Mostly no connection whatsoever.
>>
>> (Standard ADSL)
>
> Good oh, not just me, kinda borrowed next doors wi-fi, must find out
> who it is and get them to secure it ;)

I am away and needed to connect via Skype!!!!

No mobile signal...

Home land line not ringing at hand set....

Its back up now and call has saved what's left of the day.

Always goes when I need it most!!!


Chiefy

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:55:32 AM12/4/09
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thanks for that, changed over to 8.8.8.8 wish I could get the router
to change over to that, but thats a whole different issue :)

Ian Jackson

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:39:09 AM12/4/09
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In message
<d92fcd4d-04a1-4dfe...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Ian
<ianm...@googlemail.com> writes
This morning, at 0745 until around 0930 - connection at 1.2Mb/s, but no
internet or email. Seems to be restored now.
--
Ian

Dave Baxter

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:30:02 AM12/4/09
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In article <91ce10ea-9d91-41f3-bb51-c22cb01f4e00
@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, chie...@gmail.com says...

>
> On 4 Dec, 09:21, i...@null.com wrote:
> > Chiefy wrote:
> > > On 4 Dec, 09:02, "Aramis Gunton" <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> "Chiefy" <chief....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >>news:94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >> > Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
> > >> > as ever
> >
> > >> Connection is on/off all this morning.
> >
> > >> Mostly no connection whatsoever.
> >
> > >> (Standard ADSL)
> >
> > > Good oh, not just me, kinda borrowed next doors wi-fi, must find out
> > > who it is and get them to secure it ;)
> >
> > > seems to be DNS as it flick on and off, I have steady ADSL but cannt
> > > actually see the internet or get anywhere.
> >
> > working fine here have a look at this or use google new public dns server at
> > 8.8.8.8 ᅵhttp://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

> >
> > --
> > My opinions are totally my own and the chance of me talking sense is less
> > than 50%
> >
> > Output guaranteed Microsoft free checked with OpenSUSE11.2
>
> thanks for that, changed over to 8.8.8.8 wish I could get the router
> to change over to that, but thats a whole different issue :)

I'm not anti google, but you have to ask yourself what they may be
recording from the traffic passing through their DNS servers? They
have some "interesting" T's & C's in regards to other services they
provide, Gmail being one..

There's always OpenDNS too of course.

Dave B.

John Hall

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:55:32 AM12/4/09
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In article
<94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

Chiefy <chie...@gmail.com> writes:
>Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
>as ever

According to flure, my host was "down" (ie unpingable) between 6:14 and
9:29. By great good fortune, I sat down at my PC this morning at about
9:35.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

Peter Ceresole

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:17:26 AM12/4/09
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John Hall <nospam...@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

> According to flure, my host was "down" (ie unpingable) between 6:14 and
> 9:29. By great good fortune, I sat down at my PC this morning at about
> 9:35.

This figures.

I had a quick look at 0700 and the service was very erratic- some things
were happening instantly, some not. Address resolution was a sometime
thing but often failing, then succeeding a short while later.

At 1000 it was all flying again- still is...
--
Peter

Rick Hewett

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:53:19 AM12/4/09
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On Fri 04 Dec Chiefy wrote:
> Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
> as ever

Yep. Connections stopped getting anywhere, and existing connections
started timing out at about 06:15 this morning. ADSL itself seemed fine,
but nothing useful actually worked. Useful connections resumed about
09:40-ish. Demon Status reports no problems, of course...

--
..Rick Hewett http://www.chocky.demon.co.uk/
"Right, you bastards, you're... you're geography"
-- (Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!)

Colin

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:41:23 AM12/4/09
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We saw similar problems between ~0630 and 0930 this morning, but I don't
think things are /quite/ fixed yet - there have been intermittent
problems with some major websites not resolving / not replying to TCP SYN
(Yahoo, Royal Mail, parts of Multimap), and also I've seen a few messages
from one of our fetchmail daemons along the lines of 'Read from socket
failed: Connection reset by peer'. All are problems that we don't usually
expect to see.

The overall impression is that something within Demon/Thus/C&W is still
being prodded, with slightly random results.

I note that status@gate is now admitting to problems with 'broadband'.

Paul Terry

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:45:11 AM12/4/09
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In message <b91.4b18...@chui.private>, Rick Hewett
<ri...@chui.private> writes

>Demon Status reports no problems, of course...

It eventually did at 9.30, but rather a long time after the problem
started.
--
Paul Terry

Graeme

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Dec 4, 2009, 6:48:43 AM12/4/09
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In message
>Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
>as ever

Broadband completely dead this morning. Now, occasional short bursts,
then dead again.
--
Graeme, NE Scotland

ia...@null.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:31:32 AM12/4/09
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Dave Baxter wrote:

> In article <91ce10ea-9d91-41f3-bb51-c22cb01f4e00
> @k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, chie...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 4 Dec, 09:21, i...@null.com wrote:
>> > Chiefy wrote:
>> > > On 4 Dec, 09:02, "Aramis Gunton" <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> > >> "Chiefy" <chief....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >
>>news:94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > >> > Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line
>> > >> > useless as ever
>> >
>> > >> Connection is on/off all this morning.
>> >
>> > >> Mostly no connection whatsoever.
>> >
>> > >> (Standard ADSL)
>> >
>> > > Good oh, not just me, kinda borrowed next doors wi-fi, must find out
>> > > who it is and get them to secure it ;)

> I'm not anti google, but you have to ask yourself what they may be


> recording from the traffic passing through their DNS servers? They
> have some "interesting" T's & C's in regards to other services they
> provide, Gmail being one..
>
> There's always OpenDNS too of course.
>
> Dave B.

As google is an advertising company at heart or at least that is how it
makes money it will be using the dns data to sell things .

Andy

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:03:43 AM12/4/09
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In message
<94eb08f5-7e19-49a4...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Chiefy <chie...@gmail.com> wrote

>Anyone else having issues connecting this morning? Status line useless
>as ever

Yes - it didn't :(

Tried reboot of PC, then of router. Gave up and did some gardening
instead - it's Last Green Bin Day on Monday.

Seems OK now.
--
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Peter Ceresole

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:20:57 PM12/4/09
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Colin <co...@childrensbookshop.com> wrote:

> The overall impression is that something within Demon/Thus/C&W is still
> being prodded, with slightly random results.
>
> I note that status@gate is now admitting to problems with 'broadband'.

Yup. And in a further message it also says they've fixed it. I hope what
they fixed was what I was seeing (or not).
--
Peter

Rick Hewett

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:27:49 AM12/4/09
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On Fri 04 Dec Paul Terry wrote:
> It eventually did at 9.30, but rather a long time after the problem
> started.

<cynic>Perhaps that's when they realised someone had pulled the plug
out...

A pity they didn't get Status saying something useful about it fairly
soon after it was reported, if only to save on help desk phone calls.

(A)bort, (R)etry, or (I)nfluence with hammer.

Kevin Blackburn

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Dec 7, 2009, 2:28:28 PM12/7/09
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In passing, and something I haven't noticed in the threads, for all I've
only been skimming - Microsoft's implementation of DNS has recently been
having problems:

...since the hotfix KB953419 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953419 has
been applied which takes the file version from 4460 to 4537 this can
cause a 100% CPU condition in the DNS service.

A newer hotfix released under KB975830
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975830/en-us for memory leak issues
taking the version to 4592 (latest version) does not help with the hang
problem. The developers at Microsoft have confirmed that they are aware
of this and are currently working on a fix which is due to be released
at the end of February 2010 after completion of testing.
--
Kevin Blackburn Ke...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk

jasee

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Dec 7, 2009, 2:52:01 PM12/7/09
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For those running Server 2003


John Hall

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:11:17 PM12/7/09
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In article <FTpqh4Bc...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk>,

Kevin Blackburn <ke...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk> writes:
>In passing, and something I haven't noticed in the threads, for all
>I've only been skimming - Microsoft's implementation of DNS has
>recently been having problems:
<snip>

>
>A newer hotfix released under KB975830
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975830/en-us for memory leak issues
>taking the version to 4592 (latest version) does not help with the hang
>problem. The developers at Microsoft have confirmed that they are aware
>of this and are currently working on a fix which is due to be released
>at the end of February 2010 after completion of testing.

Blimey! As long as that? I hope that their response to security issues
is rather quicker.

Andy

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:58:59 PM12/7/09
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In message <FTpqh4Bc...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk>, Kevin Blackburn
<ke...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk> wrote

>In passing, and something I haven't noticed in the threads, for all
>I've only been skimming - Microsoft's implementation of DNS has
>recently been having problems:
>
>...since the hotfix KB953419 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953419 has
>been applied which takes the file version from 4460 to 4537 this can
>cause a 100% CPU condition in the DNS service.

This hotfix says it only applies to Windows Server 2003 SP1 and SP2.
Indeed it explicitly warned me that it didn't apply to XP.

>
>A newer hotfix released under KB975830
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975830/en-us for memory leak issues
>taking the version to 4592 (latest version) does not help with the hang
>problem.

Likewise.

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