outlook 98
Graham Harborne
--Can anyone help me configure outlook 98 to connect to Demon and be my default
mail & news handler.
cheers
Graham Harborne
Tom Parish
In article <uEjuGJA$FrZ1...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk>, Graham Harborne
<Gr...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>--Can anyone help me configure outlook 98 to connect to Demon and be my default
>mail & news handler.
Before anyone else uses Outlook 98:
People who use multiple email addresses will find Turnpike is easier to
use. Anyone else will prefer Outlook. (I stand to be corrected, and I'm
experimenting with OL98 to make sure).
(just for reference, Outlook 98 is on the June 1998 "PC Pro" cover disk,
and is free to install before June 20).
Simple - just follow these instructions:
1) Open Outlook 98
2) Click Tools,Accounts
3) Click Add,Mail
4) On each screen, use these settings (click Next each time):
i) YOUR NAME:
The name you want to appear on messages you send.
ii) INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:
The address you want automatic replies to be sent to.
iii) EMAIL SERVER NAMES:
Drop-down box: POP3
Server name: pop3.demon.co.uk
Outgoing server: post.demon.co.uk
iv) INTERNET MAIL LOGON:
Use the first option (default) - Log on using:
POP account name: <your demon username>
Password: <your demon password>
v) FRIENDLY NAME:
use any name you want - this is the 'title' of your account.
e.g. Tom's Demon Mail Account
vi) CONNECTION TYPE:
Depends on your circumstances...
Connect using my phone line
see below
Connect using LAN
Establish connection manually
Both the same thing - I use Turnpike to connect.
vii) DIAL-UP CONNECTION:
Select "Use an existing dial-up connection" (not default)
Use "Demon Internet Ltd."
5) Click "Finish"
6) Click the "Mail" tab
7) Choose the account you want as default, then click "Set As Default".
8) Click "Close"
9) On the button toolbar, click the "Send And Receive" button.
Your settings will be used, and Outlook 98 will collect your mail.
Hope this helps anyone who's a bit stuck.
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Tom Parish
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Matthew Slowe
In article <uEjuGJA$FrZ1...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk>, the following words
of wizdom were decreed by mailto:Gr...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk
>
>--Can anyone help me configure outlook 98 to connect to Demon and be my default
>mail & news handler.
>
>
>Graham Harborne
Why?
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Paul Terry
In article <M3VYxNA4...@baldmosher.demon.co.uk> Tom Parish wrote:
>People who use multiple email addresses will find Turnpike is easier to
>use.
I should have thought that would be most Demonites - one of the main
advantages of having a Demon account is that you can use an infinite
number of email names.
>Anyone else will prefer Outlook.
That is a bold claim! What about people who want to download their mail
by SMTP so that they can bounce junk mail without downloading so much as
a header? What about people like me who have large numbers of mailing
lists conveniently routed as newsgroups? How do you go about debugging
mail connections? .... I won't extend the list as much as I could!
>(I stand to be corrected, and I'm
>experimenting with OL98 to make sure).
I think you may be comparing apples with oranges - I don't recall
Outlook98 having call costing, any news facility (you need OE for that),
tools such as Finger, an FTP client, etc. In other words, even if all
the OE bugs have been fixed, you are comparing a simple mail client with
a complete Internet suite.
--
Paul
Grymma
Paul Terry wrote in message ...
>In article <M3VYxNA4...@baldmosher.demon.co.uk> Tom Parish wrote:
>
>>People who use multiple email addresses will find Turnpike is easier to
>>use.
>
>I should have thought that would be most Demonites - one of the main
>advantages of having a Demon account is that you can use an infinite
>number of email names.
>
>>Anyone else will prefer Outlook.
>
>That is a bold claim! What about people who want to download their mail
>by SMTP so that they can bounce junk mail without downloading so much as
>a header? What about people like me who have large numbers of mailing
>lists conveniently routed as newsgroups? How do you go about debugging
>mail connections? .... I won't extend the list as much as I could!
Outlook 98 has a junk mail bit, but of course, you have to have received it
once to bounce any more from the same source. Um, I won't even pretend to
understand the rest of the above <:-)
>>(I stand to be corrected, and I'm
>>experimenting with OL98 to make sure).
>
>I think you may be comparing apples with oranges - I don't recall
>Outlook98 having call costing, any news facility (you need OE for that),
<snip>
OE is built in (or did O98 integrate the OE I had on my PC already?), under
"MENU"/"GO"/ "NEWS", then you can fetch the newsgroups /articles you want.
It looks the same as OE, except it's news-only in that part. Call costing?
I use Netmeter, configured to dial Demon for me, set with my cable co's
telephone charges anyway. Can the telephone charges be altered in Turnpike
away from the BT defaults?
I tried Outlook 98, and apart from a few nice features, I haven't liked it
compared to OE alone, as in Outlook 98, I can't seem to include my news
acc's in "download all" with my mail, and have to "go/news/download all" to
download them separately from my post, costing valuable seconds each time.
So I've gone back to OE alone which downloads the whole lot for me, and am
fairly happy! :-) (Minus finger and ftp, granted, but then I never did
understand all the instructions on ftp given me, or what I might actually
want from it, and rarely use finger anyhow. If it's 'broke', I just try
later) The only reason I'm not using Turnpike is because I didn't like the
"look" of it, purely cosmetic really,
because I know it's a good package, but the colours of the backgrounds were
depressingly dark, or white. (I've got a nice calm mint green set in OE)
Now, if someone could tell me if it's possible to cheer up Turnpike's
"face", I'd go back to it in a trice, because I would far rather use the
software supplied to me!!!
--
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Paul Terry
In article <896449651.4170.0...@news.demon.co.uk> Grymma
wrote:
>Outlook 98 has a junk mail bit, but of course, you have to have received it
>once to bounce any more from the same source.
Strictly speaking, "bounce" means to refuse to accept unwanted mail when
it is presented to your machine - it goes away without so much as a
header being downloaded. It is only possible to do this if you run an
SMTP server, such as Turnpike. I suspect that Outlook downloads at least
the header, perhaps the body as well, and then deletes it.
>Um, I won't even pretend to
>understand the rest of the above <:-)
Well, Turnpike's facilities for handling mailing lists are terribly
important to me, since we are subscribed to 14 of them and receive some
100 emails a day that get routed as newsgroups and get kept away from
personal mail in our various mailboxes. It is that sort of functionality
that I require from a mail program.
Turnpike's diagnostics (debugging) facilities are a more advanced
feature, but they are certainly useful at times. Simpler things, though,
such as the onscreen displays of errors and data rates are very useful -
when I first tried IE4, the number of overrun errors shooting up from
zero within a few seconds was an immediate indication that something was
wrong and needed fixing.
>OE is built in (or did O98 integrate the OE I had on my PC already?)
The latter, I think. But this is what I feared - I'm afraid I removed OE
within hours of installing it, because of the multitude of bugs (I will
happily mail you a list, if you like - but it is very long).
>Call costing?
>I use Netmeter, configured to dial Demon for me, set with my cable co's
>telephone charges anyway. Can the telephone charges be altered in Turnpike
>away from the BT defaults?
Of course. As well as all the various permutations of simple BT, Premier
Line, Friends and Family, Best Friend, BT Business and so forth, there
are settings for all the main telephone companies. You can even
experiment to see what your bills would look like using a different
scheme.
Most importantly for us, Turnpike logs each user separately, which comes
in very useful when deciding how much of the phone bill the other half
should be paying ;-)
>The only reason I'm not using Turnpike is because I didn't like the
>"look" of it, purely cosmetic really,
>because I know it's a good package, but the colours of the backgrounds were
>depressingly dark, or white. (I've got a nice calm mint green set in OE)
Strangely, I have calm mint green set in my copy of Turnpike!
>Now, if someone could tell me if it's possible to cheer up Turnpike's
>"face", I'd go back to it in a trice, because I would far rather use the
>software supplied to me!!!
Fonts and colours are all customisable separately for each mailbox and
newsstand: text, text background, colour for quotes, colour for
attribution, etc. The colours of Turnpike itself (buttons, desktop,
etc.) use the Windows colour scheme - so they are all changeable, too.
--
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John Hall
In article <896449651.4170.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Grymma <Gry...@howm.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Now, if someone could tell me if it's possible to cheer up Turnpike's
>"face", I'd go back to it in a trice, because I would far rather use the
>software supplied to me!!!
Which version of Turnpike was the last one that you used? Version 3.05
had a major revamp to the look of Connect compared to earlier versions
(and there's a further improvement in version 4.00, currently in beta
testing). The overall look of the Turnpike mail and news program hasn't
changed, though. As Paul Terry points out, though, quite a lot of
customisation of colours is possible, some from within the program
itself and (if using Win95) some from Windows Control Panel (though this
will affect other applications too). Personally, the appearance of the
software is far less important than its functionality, where there have
been lots of recent improvements.
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
Grymma
In article <fzL7QNAx...@musonix.demon.co.uk>, Paul Terry
<pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk> writes
<snip>
>>Call costing?
>>I use Netmeter, configured to dial Demon for me, set with my cable co's
>>telephone charges anyway. Can the telephone charges be altered in Turnpike
>>away from the BT defaults?
>
>Of course. As well as all the various permutations of simple BT, Premier
>Line, Friends and Family, Best Friend, BT Business and so forth, there
>are settings for all the main telephone companies. You can even
>experiment to see what your bills would look like using a different
>scheme.
OK, well, I'm back into Turnpike, for another go at it. I'm not sure
which of the Telewest Residential call costs to use, so I've gone for
the basic, even though I do get a discount on my calls over a certain
amount, I'll just err on the side of caution!.
>
>Most importantly for us, Turnpike logs each user separately, which comes
>in very useful when deciding how much of the phone bill the other half
>should be paying ;-)
Makes no odds to me - he earns the money, I spend the money :-))
>
>>The only reason I'm not using Turnpike is because I didn't like the
>>"look" of it, purely cosmetic really,
>>because I know it's a good package, but the colours of the backgrounds were
>>depressingly dark, or white. (I've got a nice calm mint green set in OE)
>
>Strangely, I have calm mint green set in my copy of Turnpike!
OK, I managed to change "call costs" background to a nice calm lilac.And
of course the "on-line" bit is mint green, But Turnpike "off-line" is
still a miserable grey. I see that I can change the colours of e-mails,
but the changes I made didn't get saved :-(
How, if possible, can I change my view of all emails and news articles
to have a nice pastel background thats easy on the eye? I know its a
silly thing, but I get a headache with all this white!!
>
>Fonts and colours are all customisable separately for each mailbox and
>newsstand: text, text background, colour for quotes, colour for
>attribution, etc. The colours of Turnpike itself (buttons, desktop,
>etc.) use the Windows colour scheme - so they are all changeable, too.
Dumb blonde time, I just can't find how to change the backgrounds,
though I have located the fonts for all the different text-types, and
how to change which font to use. All help in simple English gratefully
acknowledged in advance!!
Paul Terry
In article <I6X37CAF...@howm.demon.co.uk> Grymma wrote:
>OK, I managed to change "call costs" background to a nice calm lilac.And
>of course the "on-line" bit is mint green, But Turnpike "off-line" is
>still a miserable grey. I see that I can change the colours of e-mails,
>but the changes I made didn't get saved :-(
I think you must be using the Colour setting in the Options menu - that
is intended for a one-off change.
>How, if possible, can I change my view of all emails and news articles
>to have a nice pastel background thats easy on the eye? I know its a
>silly thing, but I get a headache with all this white!!
If you want to make a permanent change, right-click you mailbox, select
Properties and then choose Colours. There are many settings available,
but the one you probably want is "text background".
If you change your default mailbox first, all of the other mailboxes and
newsstands usually follow suit if you haven't yet changed them. However,
each one can be set separately if preferred.
>Dumb blonde time, I just can't find how to change the backgrounds,
>though I have located the fonts for all the different text-types, and
>how to change which font to use. All help in simple English gratefully
>acknowledged in advance!!
The Turnpike desktop (on which your mailboxes, etc., sit) uses whatever
colour you have set for Windows "Application Background".
To change it, go to Control Panel, Display, Appearance and then select
"Application Background" from the drop-down list. You can also change
the colour of Turnpike's buttons there (the 3D objects setting).
However, be aware that any of these settings will change all of your
Windows applications - which you may or may not like :)
By the way, if you get to like Turnpike, the latest release version of
Turnpike is now 3.05 (with version 4 in the pipeline). You will need to
be a paid-up user to get all the free upgrades, though.
--
Paul
Grymma
In article <v+JnzBAn...@musonix.demon.co.uk>, Paul Terry
<pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <I6X37CAF...@howm.demon.co.uk> Grymma wrote:
>>Dumb blonde time, I just can't find how to change the backgrounds,
>>though I have located the fonts for all the different text-types, and
>>how to change which font to use. All help in simple English gratefully
>>acknowledged in advance!!
>
>The Turnpike desktop (on which your mailboxes, etc., sit) uses whatever
>colour you have set for Windows "Application Background".
>
>To change it, go to Control Panel, Display, Appearance and then select
>"Application Background" from the drop-down list. You can also change
>the colour of Turnpike's buttons there (the 3D objects setting).
>However, be aware that any of these settings will change all of your
>Windows applications - which you may or may not like :)
Yeehah!! It works:)) I now have a lovely colour scheme I can live with,
and better still, hubby can change his to something a bit more 'macho'
if he wants and I don't have to live with it!! Lovely. Thanks millions,
Paul.
>
>By the way, if you get to like Turnpike, the latest release version of
>Turnpike is now 3.05 (with version 4 in the pipeline). You will need to
>be a paid-up user to get all the free upgrades, though.
Yes, I'm using 3.04, so it will probably be far better to get 3.05 and
upgrades. Would it be worth my while waiting for Version 4 to come out
of beta first, before I purchase, or will it be a long while yet?
Paul Terry
In article <5lGLsCAf...@howm.demon.co.uk> Grymma wrote:
>Yes, I'm using 3.04, so it will probably be far better to get 3.05 and
>upgrades. Would it be worth my while waiting for Version 4 to come out
>of beta first, before I purchase, or will it be a long while yet?
I don't really know - the betas are timed to expire on 31st July, so the
wait may not be all that long. On the other hand, there would be a huge
number of differences in going straight from 3.04 to 4.00 (and new
features are still appearing in 4.00 virtually weekly).
It is difficult to advise, but I think I would recommend going to the
current release (3.05) first - mind you, I have never found any Turnpike
upgrade of a release version to be anything more than a trivial exercise
taking a minute or so, so it probably doesn't matter greatly.
Whatever the case, if you purchase TP (20 quid, I think, plus VAT and
p&p for Demon users) the free upgrades have thus far been available from
the earliest versions onwards (I started on v.1.11 or v.1.12, I think).
--
Paul
Neil Willis
In article <M3VYxNA4...@baldmosher.demon.co.uk>, Tom Parish
<TJPa...@baldmosher.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <uEjuGJA$FrZ1...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk>, Graham Harborne
><Gr...@BLUENOSE.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>default
>>mail & news handler.
>
The presence of either of these on my system (P233 & 32MB) causes all
sorts of problems e.g. GPF's as the Start Menu rises (auto hide=ON, on
top=TRUE) and when Netscape 3.0 is running.
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