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  <title>Re: Help problem with rJava</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/deducer/browse_thread/thread/13c2dab7d55a151e/4548e09ca2391d08?show_docid=4548e09ca2391d08</link>
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  Hi &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Mr. Rissler. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Now I&#39;m working with the 32 bit version, but now I have other problems, &lt;br&gt; that can happen?. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot for your help
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  harold...@gmail.com
  (Harold Velasquez Barona)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 04:25:54 UT
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  <title>Re: Creating a Package</title>
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  .onLoad is a hook that gets called when your package is loaded via &lt;br&gt; library(packageName). Take a look at the manual for writing R extensions &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/r-release/R-exts.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;. There are also &lt;br&gt; a number of package tutorials out there: e.g. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/stuff_for_blog/AlanRPackageTutorial.pdf&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  ifell...@gmail.com
  (Ian Fellows)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:35:11 UT
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  <title>Creating a Package</title>
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  Hi I am still new with deducer, and i have a few problem. &lt;br&gt; i run a few code and it works! so now i want to make it a package &lt;br&gt; how should i do it? &lt;br&gt; in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.deducer.org/pmwiki/index.php?n=Main.Development#wiuiap&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Wrapping into package&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; i was told to run an .onload function but it doesn&#39;t work &lt;br&gt; is there any solution for this?
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  dorick...@gmail.com
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  <pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 12:15:29 UT
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  <title>Re: Help problem with rJava</title>
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  Make sure your version (32 vs 64-bit)of Java matches the version of R you &lt;br&gt; are using. I don&#39;t remember what I did to fix it, but I&#39;m pretty sure this &lt;br&gt; is what is came down to. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. &lt;br&gt; They can coexist side-by-side, so I think I just installed the 64-bit
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  discn...@gmail.com
  (Matt Rissler)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 16:33:31 UT
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  <title>Re: Help problem with rJava</title>
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  I&#39;m having the same issue. I&#39;ve installed Deducer successfully previously &lt;br&gt; but on a new laptop with W8, I&#39;ve installed Java several times, have tried &lt;br&gt; to install JGR and while the JGR desktop icon appears, nothing happens when &lt;br&gt; I click on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Harold Velasquez Barona &amp;lt;
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  kenny.d...@gmail.com
  (Ken Deal)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 01:29:16 UT
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  <title>Re: Help problem with rJava</title>
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  install java on your computer and restart. If it is already installed &lt;br&gt; re-install it. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;ian &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Harold Velasquez Barona &amp;lt;
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  ifell...@gmail.com
  (Ian Fellows)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 04:49:25 UT
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  <title>Help problem with rJava</title>
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  Hii &lt;br&gt; I tried to install Deducer as shown on the website and it generates the &lt;br&gt; message in the attach. Anybody knows can happen? &lt;br&gt; Tks for your answers!!!
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  harold...@gmail.com
  (Harold Velasquez Barona)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 04:32:01 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  Stan, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I completely agree with your points. The steep learning curve is R&#39;s &lt;br&gt; biggest weakness. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Still, there are several good manuals and sources of help for R. Though I&#39;m &lt;br&gt; not in the position of teaching statistics or R (not a profession, anyway) &lt;br&gt; I think that &amp;quot;An Introduction to R&amp;quot; by Venables and Ripley, available as
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  tomhop...@gmail.com
  (Tom Hopper)
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  <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 07:56:15 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  I should have seen that. (Although I do not know why x : x does not work.) &lt;br&gt; Thanks. &lt;br&gt; As a result of this investigation I am going to switch to R with Deducer &lt;br&gt; for my course and urge others in my department to do the same as well. Some &lt;br&gt; of my colleagues are reluctant to switch because of the perceived
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  <author>
  stan.warf...@gmail.com
  (Stan Warford)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 22:51:30 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  y ~ poly(x,2) which is a drop down option. You can also type: y ~ x + I(x^2) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;best, &lt;br&gt; Ian
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  ifell...@gmail.com
  (Ian Fellows)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 22:09:25 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  I bet : for multiplication bites a lot of newcomers! I thought I could get &lt;br&gt; a quadratic fit by putting in x + x : x, but that does not work for either &lt;br&gt; the curve fit or the plot. I figured out how to do the quadratic curve fit &lt;br&gt; with the poly option in the Linear Regression Model Builder, but I cannot
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  stan.warf...@gmail.com
  (Stan Warford)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:16 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  Stanley, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I had interpreted the &amp;quot;x&amp;quot; in your first term as multiplication, leading me &lt;br&gt; to tell you how to specify A*ln(x) + B*x + C. You are basically right with &lt;br&gt; your formula, but R interprets the &amp;quot;*&amp;quot; in x*log(x) as the interaction, &lt;br&gt; _not_ as multiplication. The correct formula is y ~ x:log(x) + x, or y ~
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  ifell...@gmail.com
  (Ian Fellows)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 05:35:23 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  Thanks for the quick response. &lt;br&gt; I chose 1(b) as it seems easier than 1(a). However, computer science theory &lt;br&gt; predicts the terms x*log(x) with coefficient A in my original post, and x &lt;br&gt; with coefficient B in my original post. So, I edited the equation to be &lt;br&gt; x*log(x), which was accepted by the dialog box, and used the plus button to
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  stan.warf...@gmail.com
  (Stan Warford)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:30:24 UT
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  <title>Re: Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  (1) there are two ways of doing it. &lt;br&gt; (a) Go into Data -&amp;gt; Transform and create a new variable using the log &lt;br&gt; transform (e.g. named x.tr). Then go to linear model, and add x and x.tr as &lt;br&gt; predictors of y. This will give you your model. &lt;br&gt; (b) Open linear model, with x predicting y. in the model builder
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  ifell...@gmail.com
  (Ian Fellows)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:19:27 UT
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  <title>Nonlinear curve fit with Deducer</title>
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  Hi everybody, &lt;br&gt; I am new to R and Deducer, running R 3.0.0, and want to provide a &lt;br&gt; point-and-click tool for my students to do a nonlinear curve fit of the &lt;br&gt; equation &lt;br&gt; y = A x ln(x) + B x + C &lt;br&gt; I want my students to compare the RMSE of the best fit of this equation &lt;br&gt; with the RMSE of the best fit of a quadratic equation to determine which is
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  stan.warf...@gmail.com
  (Stan Warford)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 17:54:17 UT
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