Fwd: XML Summer School, Oxford 16th-21st September 2012

Peter Flynn

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Aug 3, 2012, 1:14:15 PM8/3/12

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Closely related to [La]TeX is The Other Markup Language: XML :-)
both of which are heavily used in the generation of PDF.

The XML Summer School runs again this year at St Edmund Hall, Oxford
from Sunday 16th to Friday 21st September. As always, it's packed with
high quality technical XML training and debate for every level of
expertise, from the Hands-on Introduction through to special classes
devoted to XSLT and XQuery, Semantic Technologies, Practical Web
Applications, and Publishing.

Or if you think you already know everything about XML, check out the
Trends and Transients day for the latest on what's hot, and what's
not.

The Summer School is also a rare opportunity to experience what life
is like as a student in one of the world's oldest university cities.

Classes are taught by some of the most renowned XML experts, including
Debbie Lapeyre, Jeni Tennison, Priscilla Walmsley, Andy Seaborne, Norm
Walsh, Sebastian Rahtz, and Bob DuCharme.

To find out more and to register your place on the XML Summer School
please visit www.xmlsummerschool.com

There are flyers to pin up on your noticeboard for your colleagues:
http://xml.silmaril.ie/xmlss/flyer-a4.pdf
http://xml.silmaril.ie/xmlss/flyer-letter.pdf

See you there!

Peter Flynn

Joe Beanfish

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Aug 6, 2012, 9:19:27 AM8/6/12

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On Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:14:15 +0100, Peter Flynn wrote:

> Closely related to [La]TeX is The Other Markup Language: XML :-)
> both of which are heavily used in the generation of PDF.
>
> The XML Summer School runs again this year at St Edmund Hall, Oxford

...

I wouldn't even consider a school that thinks there's any relationship
or similarity of any kind between [La]TeX and XML.

Lee Rudolph

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Aug 6, 2012, 9:42:25 AM8/6/12

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You don't consider that their both being (a) markup languages,
and (b) heavily used in the generation of PDF, is a "relationship
or similarity of any kind"?

Various posts (in comp.text.tex; I can't speak for the other
newsgroups in the neader) by Peter Flynn and others, about
(e.g.) workflow in production shops that actually use *both*
(for different products), have given me the impression that
in purely practical terms the summer school will be of use
to some people (e.g., those involved in such workflows),
whether there's any theoretical justification (at a level
of theory acceptable to you) or not.

However, I'm sure the school will be just as happy that you
won't even consider it, so all's well!

Lee Rudolph

Lee Rudolph

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Aug 6, 2012, 9:44:01 AM8/6/12

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You don't consider that their both being (a) markup languages,
and (b) heavily used in the generation of PDF, is a "relationship
or similarity of any kind"?

Various posts (in comp.text.tex; I can't speak for the other

newsgroups in the header) by Peter Flynn and others, about

Charles P. Schaum

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Aug 6, 2012, 2:56:00 PM8/6/12

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I can say that the XML-LaTeX relationship is useful. LaTeX is a backend
on some XML workflows instead of or along with InDesign. Scribe's
Well-Formed-Document workflow uses Perl to bind Word, ID, Quark Xpress,
and an XML database that allows changes from those sources to be
propagated back to the database in a rudimentary versioning scheme. You
can use OpenOffice or LibreOffice and the next-gen Writer2LaTeX to go
from styled ODT to both LaTeX and, with Calibre, to various e-formats.
The clever can use TeX4ht in the opposite way.

Having been a part of the moribund publishing industry, which is
struggling to find viable business models amid global economic malaise,
I can vouch for the cost-effectiveness that the XML-LaTeX relationship
brings to the table and I commend Peter Flynn for his work.

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Peter Flynn

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Aug 6, 2012, 6:22:47 PM8/6/12

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You don't see the similarity between \begin{abstract}...\end{abstract}
and <abstract>...</abstract>?

///Peter