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Chris Saad  
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 More options Apr 16, 9:32 pm
From: Chris Saad <chris.s...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:32:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:32 pm
Subject: DataPortability Legal Structure
Hi everyone.

So as most of you have heard by now Michael Arrington and the
Techcrunch team want to donate some money to the Project. We also have
pro-bono lawyers we can call on for the paperwork. In addition we have
received additional offers of some sponsorship.

Read a little more about it here:
http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/techcrunch-donates-6625-to-...

So for this to happen, we need to set up a legal entity and have
decision makers to make transparent decisions about how the money is
spent.

My suggestion is as follows:

We (the founders) select 6 members of the founding team to seed the
board
The 6 founders select 12 industry luminaries and put them up for a
community vote
The community votes and the top 6 are invited to join the board
The board then selects a way to replace itself

The board's primary responsibility at the moment would be to deal with
the legal entity and the finances. The rest of the decision making
would remain as it is now.

Is there any violent descent to this idea or any better ideas?

Chris


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Chris Saad  
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 More options Apr 16, 9:34 pm
From: Chris Saad <chris.s...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: DataPortability Legal Structure
To clarify - I mean it would select a process of succession to replace
itself after x period of time or via x methodology. Not replace itself
immediately.

Cheers,

Chris

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Brady Brim-DeForest  
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 More options Apr 16, 9:41 pm
From: "Brady Brim-DeForest" <brad...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:41:13 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] DataPortability Legal Structure
Chris,

At first glance this sounds like a reasonable plan – but I am
interested to see what kind of other ideas are floated around.  There
were some discussion threads last month that addressed this issue.
I'll see if I can dig them up.

Typically, Director's (of the Board) terms are limited in an
organization's bylaws to serve for a certain period of time (2 years
is not uncommon). In order to ensure continuity of at least half of
the board, some amount (lets say 50%) of the original 12 board members
you have suggested would serve for perhaps one year.  This would make
for Board elections of at least half of the board membership every
year.

I am assuming that the organization would be incorporated in
California - please correct me if this assumption is wrong.
Would we seek 501(c)(3) (non-profit) status?

I am extremely interested in this discussion. I imagine that a
dedicated conference call on this topic is in order.

Talk soon,
Brady


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Brady Brim-DeForest  
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 More options Apr 16, 9:55 pm
From: "Brady Brim-DeForest" <brad...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:55:47 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] DataPortability Legal Structure
For reference, here is the discussion thread from mid-March:

http://groups.google.com/group/dataportability-public/browse_thread/t...


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Chris Saad  
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 More options Apr 16, 9:56 pm
From: "Chris Saad" <chris.s...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:56:46 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] Re: DataPortability Legal Structure

Brady,

A few responses below

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Brady Brim-DeForest <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chris,

> At first glance this sounds like a reasonable plan – but I am
> interested to see what kind of other ideas are floated around.  There
> were some discussion threads last month that addressed this issue.
> I'll see if I can dig them up.

We did indeed discuss if we *should* have a legal entity - but I think that
with sponsorship dollars coming in we need to make this happen so that
transparency is maintained for the community.

> Typically, Director's (of the Board) terms are limited in an
> organization's bylaws to serve for a certain period of time (2 years
> is not uncommon). In order to ensure continuity of at least half of
> the board, some amount (lets say 50%) of the original 12 board members
> you have suggested would serve for perhaps one year.  This would make
> for Board elections of at least half of the board membership every
> year.

Sure - I guess we can leave most of this up to the lawyers and more
experienced people to handle - I am sure there is plenty of precedent ;)

> I am assuming that the organization would be incorporated in
> California - please correct me if this assumption is wrong.
> Would we seek 501(c)(3) (non-profit) status?

Again I don't want to lock us into a specific entity type right now because
the Laywers and others who have done this before may have good suggestions.

For example, I have been told that BigCos often find it hard to engage with
Non-profits for various legal reasons and prefer to deal with 'For-profits'.
In that case a 'Fo-profit' with a directive to spend all profits back on the
community might be in order (and achieve the same effect). Of course this
the tax write off issue - but again, we will need to get advise on this at
the point of registration..

> I am extremely interested in this discussion. I imagine that a
> dedicated conference call on this topic is in order.

Sure!

> Talk soon,
> Brady

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From: "Phil Wolff" <pwo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:12:10 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 10:12 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] DataPortability Legal Structure

1. What do you see as the management structure of the new organization?

2. Will the foundation's charter be different than the volunteer
organization's? Or will they become one organization?

3. What will the new charter be?

4. I've heard an even number of board members sets things up for tied votes.
Something to ask the lawyers.

5. Is 12 too many directors? Seems a large team for a small organization.

6. Responsibilities of directors?

7. Do we have a conflict-of-interest provision for directors? What interests
might conflict?

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Brady Brim-DeForest  
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 More options Apr 16, 10:31 pm
From: "Brady Brim-DeForest" <brad...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:31:59 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] Re: DataPortability Legal Structure
@Chris

> We did indeed discuss if we *should* have a legal entity - but I think that
> with sponsorship dollars coming in we need to make this happen so that
> transparency is maintained for the community.

I am fully in agreement here. With money coming in, setting up a legal
entity is a necessity.

> Again I don't want to lock us into a specific entity type right now because
> the Laywers and others who have done this before may have good suggestions.

> For example, I have been told that BigCos often find it hard to engage with
> Non-profits for various legal reasons and prefer to deal with 'For-profits'.
> In that case a 'Fo-profit' with a directive to spend all profits back on the
> community might be in order (and achieve the same effect). Of course this
> the tax write off issue - but again, we will need to get advise on this at
> the point of registration..

Absolutely.  We should investigate both avenues. Participation of
major vendors is obviously mission critical, so we need to ensure that
whatever steps we take to proceed take this into account.

@Phil,

Great questions.

> 1. What do you see as the management structure of the new organization?

The board will serve a number of functions: fulfilling the legal
requirement to have a board once we incorporate, dealing with
financial matters, etc.  The participatory democratic nature of this
organization should not change. Our transparency and community driven
ethos must not be compromised by forming a legal structure for
DataPortability.

> 2. Will the foundation's charter be different than the volunteer
> organization's? Or will they become one organization?

My thought is that they should be one organization. Decisions about
the for-profit or non-profit status of the corporation may effect this
decision, however.

> 3. What will the new charter be?

Hopefully we will have the same charter.  Obviously, we will need all
of the official legal documents, like Articles of Incorporation and
Bylaws...

> 4. I've heard an even number of board members sets things up for tied votes.
> Something to ask the lawyers.

You are absolutely right. An odd number of board members is
preferable.  Anywhere from 5-9 directors is a good number – but there
may be a viable reason to have more.

> 5. Is 12 too many directors? Seems a large team for a small organization.

See above.

> 6. Responsibilities of directors?

These will be be codified in the Bylaws – but off the top of my head,
I think that their responsibilities should be limited to matters
involving expenditures, contracts, etc.  They shouldn't have a say in
the day to day operation of the organization.

> 7. Do we have a conflict-of-interest provision for directors? What interests
> might conflict?

Without a doubt a Conflict of Interest policy is necessary.  If we go
the non-profit route, the IRS will require/strongly suggest that we
have such a policy in place.

General thoughts:

Depending on the recommendations of the legal experts, there is
nothing (besides expense perhaps) stopping us from forming both a
for-profit entity (to deal with IP issues related to relationships
with major vendors) and a non-profit community driven and supported
organization.

Lets definitely schedule a conference call.  What is everyone's coming
week looking like?

-Brady


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 More options Apr 16, 10:35 pm
From: "Chris Saad" <chris.s...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:35:07 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [DP.AG.Steering] Re: DataPortability Legal Structure

+1 to everything Brady said :)

Great questions Phil!

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Brady Brim-DeForest <brad...@gmail.com>
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 More options Apr 16, 10:51 pm
From: Mary Trigiani <marytrigi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:51:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: DataPortability Legal Structure
This is good news.  Question:  what's our timeline for enacting the
foundation?  If it's short, let's make sure we have even just 48 hours
for people to make suggestions.  Then we work with the lawyers to come
up with the optimal structure.  Chris, we should work hard to ensure
that all viewpoints are presented to the lawyers.

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 More options Apr 16, 10:52 pm
From: Mary Trigiani <marytrigi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:52:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 16 2008 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: DataPortability Legal Structure
PS:  great thinking from all of you guys.  It really helps to clarify.

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