I proposed this as an idea a few months back and chris challenged me
saying lets go for a decentralised approach with rss feeds, which I
won me over because it was a new way of thinking about it.
The issue was debated again a few weeks ago, and some points were
raised. Mike Reynolds also raised it once.
Chris, Phil, Triona, Mike - I know you all have views on the subject.
Thoughts?
There is actually a 'blog' which is really just a collection of links - this way anyone could get on the blog as a sort of guest author - keeps with the spirit of the de-centralized approach of DP.
It is feed from the main feed - the same one that feeds the Twitter bot.
Chris
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Elias Bizannes <elias.bizan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I proposed this as an idea a few months back and chris challenged me > saying lets go for a decentralised approach with rss feeds, which I > won me over because it was a new way of thinking about it.
> The issue was debated again a few weeks ago, and some points were > raised. Mike Reynolds also raised it once.
> Chris, Phil, Triona, Mike - I know you all have views on the subject. > Thoughts?
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> I proposed this as an idea a few months back and chris challenged me > saying lets go for a decentralised approach with rss feeds, which I > won me over because it was a new way of thinking about it.
> The issue was debated again a few weeks ago, and some points were > raised. Mike Reynolds also raised it once.
> Chris, Phil, Triona, Mike - I know you all have views on the subject. > Thoughts?
Unless we can commit to writing on it regularly, and I know I can't, I believe Chris is right in just pulling in dataportability mentions via RSS and aggregating them in one place. This way, we benefit from mentions all over the place and outside people benefit from the traffic we feed them.
Maybe I'm missing the point of a blog. What do we want to accomplish with it?
Given that this topic keeps bubbling back up to the surface, I will
add this as an item for the agenda for this weeks' evangelism group
conference call.
Excellent Triona. My thought is not that we need a blog that is updated daily, or even weekly, but rather a central location for official announcements. Right now, there is no such location.
maybe we should have/need both, an official place and some planet.dataportability.org (but somebody should then be responsible to process requests to be added to the planet).
-- Christian
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Brady Brim-DeForest <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Excellent Triona. My thought is not that we need a blog that is > updated daily, or even weekly, but rather a central location for > official announcements. Right now, there is no such location.
We have been having some active conversations on this topic on the
chat and based on our last Evangelism call we agreed that we would
would give Brady (since he opened this thread) the duty to gather
thoughts and consensus here so we can move on. So let's add our
thoughts here and nail this down in our next Evanglism call.
My recommendation is that we make this part of the redesign of
dataportability.org - something that is very much needed and i believe
was being spearheaded by Triona along with Phil Wolff and Bob Ngu? I
know we are awaiting for the the final logo to deal with look and feel
but perhaps we can start locking down structure and this idea of
having an 'official' voice is part of that same conversation.
If i recall some of the suggestions over the last few weeks was to
look at something like http://creativecommons.org/ which has a weblog
as well- perhaps there are others as well that we can look at as
examples?
danielabarbosa <danielaVbarb...@gmail.com> Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:38:29
>My recommendation is that we make this part of the redesign of >dataportability.org - something that is very much needed and i believe >was being spearheaded by Triona along with Phil Wolff and Bob Ngu? I >know we are awaiting for the the final logo to deal with look and feel >but perhaps we can start locking down structure and this idea of >having an 'official' voice is part of that same conversation.
DataPortability should absolutely have a blog with half a dozen authors and about one post a week. It's one of the best strategies for attaining guru-hood in a field. And ISTM this should be easy to setup with minimum amounts of concensus, control and governance effort.
On blog style, IDCommons have a 'drupal' site as its official 'blog' but it is not really driven by the community yet. The problem with that blog is that it doesn't have a human voice. It's pretty dry and really just a list of community announcements. http://creativecommons.net/ is closer. That's a mix of story and announcement. I reckon skypejournal.com is the sort of thing we should be aiming for.
I can feel an underlying issue though which is, who gets to approve a proposed entry. I suspect it would end up being whoever had control of the blog admin, and you get access to blog admin by writing blog entries. So 5-10 people would end up electing themselves as gatekeepers. On thing to understand about a group blog is that the individual stories have individual authors and should be *their* opinion. This reduces the need for approval and signoff before posting.
As for the relationship with the main home page, I think over time DataPortability will end up as a Drupal (or equivalent) front and a wiki back. But that will take some work, money and effort.
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Mightbe could be simplified to whoever on the Evangelism group could contribute a draft post, and let it receive +1/-1 votes.. when positive votecount reaches a preset threshold, it's automatically published. Of cos, subject to the usual caveat of people gaming the system, though not too likely, but will happen.. just a suggestion, /ac.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Bond" <julian_b...@voidstar.com> To: <dataportabilityactionevangelism@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: [DP.AG.Evangelism] Re: DataPortability Blog
> danielabarbosa <danielaVbarb...@gmail.com> Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:38:29 >>My recommendation is that we make this part of the redesign of >>dataportability.org - something that is very much needed and i believe >>was being spearheaded by Triona along with Phil Wolff and Bob Ngu? I >>know we are awaiting for the the final logo to deal with look and feel >>but perhaps we can start locking down structure and this idea of >>having an 'official' voice is part of that same conversation.
> DataPortability should absolutely have a blog with half a dozen authors > and about one post a week. It's one of the best strategies for attaining > guru-hood in a field. And ISTM this should be easy to setup with minimum > amounts of concensus, control and governance effort.
> On blog style, IDCommons have a 'drupal' site as its official 'blog' but > it is not really driven by the community yet. The problem with that blog > is that it doesn't have a human voice. It's pretty dry and really just a > list of community announcements. http://creativecommons.net/ is closer. > That's a mix of story and announcement. I reckon skypejournal.com is the > sort of thing we should be aiming for.
> I can feel an underlying issue though which is, who gets to approve a > proposed entry. I suspect it would end up being whoever had control of > the blog admin, and you get access to blog admin by writing blog > entries. So 5-10 people would end up electing themselves as gatekeepers. > On thing to understand about a group blog is that the individual stories > have individual authors and should be *their* opinion. This reduces the > need for approval and signoff before posting.
> As for the relationship with the main home page, I think over time > DataPortability will end up as a Drupal (or equivalent) front and a wiki > back. But that will take some work, money and effort.
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