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In this issue:
DBUG> DataCAD 10 Copy to layer problem
DBUG> 3 point grid
DBUG> Datacad 12 Grid Angle
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> Excel Files
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:16:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Marshall C. Ricker" <RICKE...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> DataCAD 10 Copy to layer problem
Not having the budget to upgrade to the latest and greatest version of
Data Cad,
I am saddled with using my current version of Data Cad 10. I am not
sure what is
going on with the copy to layer function but it seems that if I want
to copy
items from one layer to a layer that is turned off, it seems to work
o.k.
However, if I am copying items to a layer that is on, it will often
move the
items to the active layer. This might sound confusing, but it is of
great
concern to me.
Is there a fix for this software glitch or should I reload Data Cad to
overcome
this problem? Is there a "Cheap Tricks" fix for this? I would
appreciate hearing
from you.
Marshall C. Ricker
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:17:53 -0600
From: Dwight Brennfoerder <dwi...@brennfoerderarchitects.com>
Subject: DBUG> 3 point grid
Sue, we've had that problem a couple of times and ran to the forum
for
the collective help, and this time I think I actually remember the
solution.
If you happen to be using "B" for the tangents menu, there is a
separate
setting in there for angular grid under F2, Tan Div. If you check
that,
I'll bet you'll find it set to 3. You can either change that number,
or
exit the tangents menu to return to normal settings.
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From: Larry Gray <lg...@ledarchitecture.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Datacad 12 Grid Angle
Go to Grids, Snap Angle, and set the value to 8. The cursor will then
snap at 45deg increments.
FWIW we set ours to 24, for 15deg increments. Makes the cursor feel a
lot less "jumpy."
> Every once in a while on a drawing the grid angle will go from 8
> points to
> only 3. I have looked every where on how to reset this but I cant
> seem to
> find anything.
>
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:20 PM
From: Roger Donaldson AIA <Roger.D...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
Under Display/DimPoints will show the point that was originally
dimensioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s land
and then moving back.
We don’t use a lot of associative dimensions but I am trying to get
into it more and more.
I didn’t find my answer on the forum posts, so many to search thru.
<<<<<<<<<<<
Sincerely,
Roger Donaldson, AIA, CSI, CDT, LEED AP NCARB
Roger L. Donaldson, AIA P.L.C.
(517) 694-0011
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:21 PM
From: Larry Gray <lg...@ledarchitecture.com>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
> Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
> dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if
the
> dimension was not stretched with the wall corner.
Go to Display and turn on Dim Points (position F0 on the Display
menu).
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:51:53 -0500
From: Christopher Blair <christoph...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
>>>>>>>>>>
Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s
land
and then moving back.
<<<<<<<<<
I think what you want is to turn on the dimension point
Utility/Display/DimPoints
Regards,
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DESIGN+PLANNING
17 Mahaiwe St Ste 2
Great Barrington MA 01230
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:26:18 -0500
From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Hello folks,
It was great to see X3 in person last evening. The first thing I
noticed was -- it looked just like v12! But the new functions make it
quite a bit different -- and better!
I'll go in reverse order from how we saw them: the Auto HLR is a
*HUGE* thing. The resulting power of this new tool is obvious: we
will be able to create a smart model of the building and from it,
generate all the major outlines of the construction drawings. And
this is exactly what we need to be doing.
The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as the
Auto HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could
get shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in
the DataCAD AEC file, so they could be used for presentation
drawings. And we will have to hear from the folks in Australia on
what kinds of output they will need from the shadow viewer.
The view/scale/layer dependency tools for symbols and text (and
dimensions) are excellent, and like so many things in DataCAD, I think
we will find more and more uses for this. Flexibility that lets the
user get the results they may need, is the opposite sort of tool than
we have seen and come to expect from BIM.
DataCAD does not reduce the role of the architect, and automatically
generate the building from a bunch of dialog boxes. DataCAD gives us
the flexible tools we need to design and draw buildings.
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:49:43 -0500
From: "Michael Smith" <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
I think you forgot a few:
1. Ability to draw while the Layer Manager is still open/active.
2. Symbol browser has "Recent Folders" and "Favorite Folders" options.
3. Enhanced text scale (entity by entity option) where the text
automatically changes to stay at the same plot scale size, even when
the
detail is enlarged or reduced in MSP.
4. Individual symbol layers can now be told to display in 2D or 3D
only, and
layers can be told to display within a range of scales (so hatching
doesn't
show up at 1/4", but would at 1-1/2" scale, for instance).
5. Covered polylines can now be lifted and rotated into any 3D plane!
So
it's like slabs on steroids.
6. 3D faces can be associatively hatched!
7. Use Ctrl-Right Click to instantly define a construction plane, and
make
it orthagonal with the screen.
8. Ability to make edits to entities in 3D and DCAD is smart enough
to
maintain the edits in the plane of the entity (so edits to a sloped
roof
would make the edits along the slope of the roof, and not try to push/
pull
the roof out of its plane).
Mike Smith
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From: <SDES...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
WOW - I like it a lot !
Was a target release date mentioned ?
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com (please use the AOL Email websites are
updated)
www.sargertdesign.com (Being Updated)
http://www.epitomedesign.com/dev/sargert/ Temp Location of Past Work
Website
www.sargertdesign.blogspot.com (Blogs are current)
www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:39:52 -0500
From: "Michael Smith" <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked.
Beta testing is hopefully by year end.
Michael Smith
Signature Architects, Inc.
mi...@SignatureArchitects.com
P: 978-562-1661, Ext. 221
F: 978-562-1662
http://www.SignatureArchitects.com
> WOW - I like it a lot !
> Was a target release date mentioned ?
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From: <SDES...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
I'm kind of out of the loop these days and did not know how far X3 was
in the development stream.
Thanks for the update.
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com (please use the AOL Email websites are
updated)
www.sargertdesign.com (Being Updated)
>>>>Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked. Beta testing is hopefully by year end.<<<<
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:20:07 +1100
From: Nick Pyner <npy...@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
>The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as the Auto
HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could get
shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in the
DataCAD
AEC file, so they could be used for presentation drawings. And we
will
have to hear from the folks in Australia on what kinds of output they
will
need from the shadow viewer.
_________________________________
I have responded to this in the DataCad forum. I submit that all that
is
required is for dhShadow to be properly integrated into DataCad and
made
100% kosher.
I hope other users in Oz feel the same way.
My main point is that we want a shadow facility for design and
documentation. To the best of my knowledge, only DataCad can do this.
Getting shadows into pretty pictures has already been done.
I don't know if it's that important to be integrated rather than an
external macro, but I understand it will be faster if it is. This may
not
be such an issue with modern computers.
Other than that, some sort of saveable management inteface that
allocates
layers and colours to times would be nice, plus, dare I suggest, a
schedule of goups casting and sufaces receiving. What this means is
that a
whole suite of shadow diagrams are produced at at the touch of one
button.
I'm quite happy to go off and watch Leigh Sales on Lateline while
DataCad
grinds away at this. This can't be hard to do and Henderson was
intending
to provide this, before he decided to close up shop and go and live on
Mars.
Nick Pyner
Dee Why Beach NSW
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~npyner/yadpage.htm
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From: Mark Wilhelm <ma...@grazadovelleco.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Well, I asked, but Mark just kinda groaned, or sighed. It's
obviously something more than vaporware, but it could be a while.
Best,
Mark Wilhelm
>>>>>Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked. Beta testing is hopefully by year end.<<<<
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:22:41 -0500
From: "David Haynes" <hayne...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> Excel Files
Debuggers,
I need a little help inserting Excel files (schedules), they seem to
be
okay, intersections have no gaps, line weights are 1 however on the
screen
they look like a 10, can't change the line color and the text aspect
changes
from 1 to say 1.3. I would like them to look like what I created.
Any help would be appreciated.
TIA,
David
David Haynes AIA Architect
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:17:36 -0500
From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
>> I think you forgot a few:
>>
>> 1. Ability to draw while the Layer Manager is still open/active. =
[Excellent for dual monitors!]
>> 2. Symbol browser has "Recent Folders" and "Favorite Folders"
options. =
[Very convenient and helpful.]
>> 3. Enhanced text scale (entity by entity option) where the text =
automatically changes to stay at the same plot scale size, even when
the =
detail is enlarged or reduced in MSP. [I was including this in the 3rd
=
item on my list.]
>> 4. Individual symbol layers can now be told to display in 2D or 3D
=
only, and layers can be told to display within a range of scales (so =
hatching doesn't show up at 1/4", but would at 1-1/2" scale, for =
instance). [This is also what I was including in item #3 -- thanks
Mike =
for expanding/explaining it better.]
>> 5. Covered polylines can now be lifted and rotated into any 3D
plane! =
So it's like slabs on steroids. [This negates the need to save as a =
symbol, or make a self-reference, as in v12.]
>> 6. 3D faces can be associatively hatched! [Like TouchUp on
steroids!]=
>> 7. Use Ctrl-Right Click to instantly define a construction plane,
and =
make it orthogonal with the screen. [This was really cool!]
>> 8. Ability to make edits to entities in 3D and DCAD is smart
enough to =
maintain the edits in the plane of the entity (so edits to a sloped
roof =
would make the edits along the slope of the roof, and not try to =
push/pull the roof out of its plane).
>> It was great to see X3 in person last evening. The first thing I
noticed was -- it looked just like v12! But the new functions make it
=
quite a bit different -- and better!
>> I'll go in reverse order from how we saw them: the Auto HLR is a
=
*HUGE* thing. The resulting power of this new tool is obvious: we
will =
be able to create a smart model of the building and from it, generate
=
all the major outlines of the construction drawings. And this is =
exactly what we need to be doing.
>>
>> The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as
the =
Auto HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could
=
get shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in
the =
DataCAD AEC file, so they could be used for presentation drawings.
And =
we will have to hear from the folks in Australia on what kinds of
output =
they will need from the shadow viewer.
>>
>> The view/scale/layer dependency tools for symbols and text (and =
dimensions) are excellent, and like so many things in DataCAD, I think
=
we will find more and more uses for this. Flexibility that lets the =
user get the results they may need, is the opposite sort of tool than
we =
have seen and come to expect from BIM.
>>
>> DataCAD does not reduce the role of the architect, and
automatically =
generate the building from a bunch of dialog boxes. DataCAD gives us
=
the flexible tools we need to design and draw buildings.
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM
From: Robert <robertp...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
In your display settings turn on dimension points, then hit "u" to to
regenerate the drawing.
You will see a dot in the same color as your dimension at the point
where the end of the line used to be.
You can snap to that dot as the first point in the stretch command and
the new end of the line where the dimension point needs to be.
Stick with the associative dimensions. Otherwise you cannot trust your
drawings.
If your having trouble with small fractions you can turn on rounding
under "dim-style" in the dimension menu.
Robert.
Fort Wayne, Indiana.
> Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
> dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
> dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
> of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
> dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
> drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s land
> and then moving back.
>
> We don’t use a lot of associative dimensions but I am trying to get
> into it more and more.
>
> I didn’t find my answer on the forum posts, so many to search thru.
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In this issue:
DBUG> DataCAD 10 Copy to layer problem
DBUG> 3 point grid
DBUG> Datacad 12 Grid Angle
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> Excel Files
DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:16:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Marshall C. Ricker" <RICKE...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> DataCAD 10 Copy to layer problem
Not having the budget to upgrade to the latest and greatest version of
Data Cad,
I am saddled with using my current version of Data Cad 10. I am not
sure what is
going on with the copy to layer function but it seems that if I want
to copy
items from one layer to a layer that is turned off, it seems to work
o.k.
However, if I am copying items to a layer that is on, it will often
move the
items to the active layer. This might sound confusing, but it is of
great
concern to me.
Is there a fix for this software glitch or should I reload Data Cad to
overcome
this problem? Is there a "Cheap Tricks" fix for this? I would
appreciate hearing
from you.
Marshall C. Ricker
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:17:53 -0600
From: Dwight Brennfoerder <dwi...@brennfoerderarchitects.com>
Subject: DBUG> 3 point grid
Sue, we've had that problem a couple of times and ran to the forum
for
the collective help, and this time I think I actually remember the
solution.
If you happen to be using "B" for the tangents menu, there is a
separate
setting in there for angular grid under F2, Tan Div. If you check
that,
I'll bet you'll find it set to 3. You can either change that number,
or
exit the tangents menu to return to normal settings.
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President
Brennfoerder Architectural Services, LLC
517 S Quarter Lane
Joplin, MO 64801
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From: Larry Gray <lg...@ledarchitecture.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> Datacad 12 Grid Angle
Go to Grids, Snap Angle, and set the value to 8. The cursor will then
snap at 45deg increments.
FWIW we set ours to 24, for 15deg increments. Makes the cursor feel a
lot less "jumpy."
> Every once in a while on a drawing the grid angle will go from 8
> points to
> only 3. I have looked every where on how to reset this but I cant
> seem to
> find anything.
>
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Lambert Ezell Durham
Architecture + Interior Design
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:20 PM
From: Roger Donaldson AIA <Roger.D...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
Under Display/DimPoints will show the point that was originally
dimensioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s land
and then moving back.
We don’t use a lot of associative dimensions but I am trying to get
into it more and more.
I didn’t find my answer on the forum posts, so many to search thru.
<<<<<<<<<<<
Sincerely,
Roger Donaldson, AIA, CSI, CDT, LEED AP NCARB
Roger L. Donaldson, AIA P.L.C.
(517) 694-0011
Roger.D...@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:21 PM
From: Larry Gray <lg...@ledarchitecture.com>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
> Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
> dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if
the
> dimension was not stretched with the wall corner.
Go to Display and turn on Dim Points (position F0 on the Display
menu).
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Lambert Ezell Durham
Architecture + Interior Design
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:51:53 -0500
From: Christopher Blair <christoph...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
>>>>>>>>>>
Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s
land
and then moving back.
<<<<<<<<<
I think what you want is to turn on the dimension point
Utility/Display/DimPoints
Regards,
- --
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DESIGN+PLANNING
17 Mahaiwe St Ste 2
Great Barrington MA 01230
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:26:18 -0500
From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Hello folks,
It was great to see X3 in person last evening. The first thing I
noticed was -- it looked just like v12! But the new functions make it
quite a bit different -- and better!
I'll go in reverse order from how we saw them: the Auto HLR is a
*HUGE* thing. The resulting power of this new tool is obvious: we
will be able to create a smart model of the building and from it,
generate all the major outlines of the construction drawings. And
this is exactly what we need to be doing.
The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as the
Auto HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could
get shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in
the DataCAD AEC file, so they could be used for presentation
drawings. And we will have to hear from the folks in Australia on
what kinds of output they will need from the shadow viewer.
The view/scale/layer dependency tools for symbols and text (and
dimensions) are excellent, and like so many things in DataCAD, I think
we will find more and more uses for this. Flexibility that lets the
user get the results they may need, is the opposite sort of tool than
we have seen and come to expect from BIM.
DataCAD does not reduce the role of the architect, and automatically
generate the building from a bunch of dialog boxes. DataCAD gives us
the flexible tools we need to design and draw buildings.
Sincerely, Neil
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:49:43 -0500
From: "Michael Smith" <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
I think you forgot a few:
1. Ability to draw while the Layer Manager is still open/active.
2. Symbol browser has "Recent Folders" and "Favorite Folders" options.
3. Enhanced text scale (entity by entity option) where the text
automatically changes to stay at the same plot scale size, even when
the
detail is enlarged or reduced in MSP.
4. Individual symbol layers can now be told to display in 2D or 3D
only, and
layers can be told to display within a range of scales (so hatching
doesn't
show up at 1/4", but would at 1-1/2" scale, for instance).
5. Covered polylines can now be lifted and rotated into any 3D plane!
So
it's like slabs on steroids.
6. 3D faces can be associatively hatched!
7. Use Ctrl-Right Click to instantly define a construction plane, and
make
it orthagonal with the screen.
8. Ability to make edits to entities in 3D and DCAD is smart enough
to
maintain the edits in the plane of the entity (so edits to a sloped
roof
would make the edits along the slope of the roof, and not try to push/
pull
the roof out of its plane).
Mike Smith
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From: <SDES...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
WOW - I like it a lot !
Was a target release date mentioned ?
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
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updated)
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http://www.epitomedesign.com/dev/sargert/ Temp Location of Past Work
Website
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www.saffrongroup.blogspot.com
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:39:52 -0500
From: "Michael Smith" <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked.
Beta testing is hopefully by year end.
Michael Smith
Signature Architects, Inc.
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F: 978-562-1662
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> WOW - I like it a lot !
> Was a target release date mentioned ?
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From: <SDES...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
I'm kind of out of the loop these days and did not know how far X3 was
in the development stream.
Thanks for the update.
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com (please use the AOL Email websites are
updated)
www.sargertdesign.com (Being Updated)
>>>>Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked. Beta testing is hopefully by year end.<<<<
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:20:07 +1100
From: Nick Pyner <npy...@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
>The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as the Auto
HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could get
shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in the
DataCAD
AEC file, so they could be used for presentation drawings. And we
will
have to hear from the folks in Australia on what kinds of output they
will
need from the shadow viewer.
_________________________________
I have responded to this in the DataCad forum. I submit that all that
is
required is for dhShadow to be properly integrated into DataCad and
made
100% kosher.
I hope other users in Oz feel the same way.
My main point is that we want a shadow facility for design and
documentation. To the best of my knowledge, only DataCad can do this.
Getting shadows into pretty pictures has already been done.
I don't know if it's that important to be integrated rather than an
external macro, but I understand it will be faster if it is. This may
not
be such an issue with modern computers.
Other than that, some sort of saveable management inteface that
allocates
layers and colours to times would be nice, plus, dare I suggest, a
schedule of goups casting and sufaces receiving. What this means is
that a
whole suite of shadow diagrams are produced at at the touch of one
button.
I'm quite happy to go off and watch Leigh Sales on Lateline while
DataCad
grinds away at this. This can't be hard to do and Henderson was
intending
to provide this, before he decided to close up shop and go and live on
Mars.
Nick Pyner
Dee Why Beach NSW
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~npyner/yadpage.htm
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From: Mark Wilhelm <ma...@grazadovelleco.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
Well, I asked, but Mark just kinda groaned, or sighed. It's
obviously something more than vaporware, but it could be a while.
Best,
Mark Wilhelm
>>>>>Are you kidding?! ;-) We all know the answer, so I think nobody
asked. Beta testing is hopefully by year end.<<<<
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:22:41 -0500
From: "David Haynes" <hayne...@comcast.net>
Subject: DBUG> Excel Files
Debuggers,
I need a little help inserting Excel files (schedules), they seem to
be
okay, intersections have no gaps, line weights are 1 however on the
screen
they look like a 10, can't change the line color and the text aspect
changes
from 1 to say 1.3. I would like them to look like what I created.
Any help would be appreciated.
TIA,
David
David Haynes AIA Architect
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:17:36 -0500
From: Neil Blanchard <neil.bl...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DBUG> X3 presentation @ DBUG
>> I think you forgot a few:
>>
>> 1. Ability to draw while the Layer Manager is still open/active. =
[Excellent for dual monitors!]
>> 2. Symbol browser has "Recent Folders" and "Favorite Folders"
options. =
[Very convenient and helpful.]
>> 3. Enhanced text scale (entity by entity option) where the text =
automatically changes to stay at the same plot scale size, even when
the =
detail is enlarged or reduced in MSP. [I was including this in the 3rd
=
item on my list.]
>> 4. Individual symbol layers can now be told to display in 2D or 3D
=
only, and layers can be told to display within a range of scales (so =
hatching doesn't show up at 1/4", but would at 1-1/2" scale, for =
instance). [This is also what I was including in item #3 -- thanks
Mike =
for expanding/explaining it better.]
>> 5. Covered polylines can now be lifted and rotated into any 3D
plane! =
So it's like slabs on steroids. [This negates the need to save as a =
symbol, or make a self-reference, as in v12.]
>> 6. 3D faces can be associatively hatched! [Like TouchUp on
steroids!]=
>> 7. Use Ctrl-Right Click to instantly define a construction plane,
and =
make it orthogonal with the screen. [This was really cool!]
>> 8. Ability to make edits to entities in 3D and DCAD is smart
enough to =
maintain the edits in the plane of the entity (so edits to a sloped
roof =
would make the edits along the slope of the roof, and not try to =
push/pull the roof out of its plane).
>> It was great to see X3 in person last evening. The first thing I
noticed was -- it looked just like v12! But the new functions make it
=
quite a bit different -- and better!
>> I'll go in reverse order from how we saw them: the Auto HLR is a
=
*HUGE* thing. The resulting power of this new tool is obvious: we
will =
be able to create a smart model of the building and from it, generate
=
all the major outlines of the construction drawings. And this is =
exactly what we need to be doing.
>>
>> The shadow viewer is also great, if not quite as revolutionary as
the =
Auto HLR. An additional use for this that occurs to me is if we could
=
get shadowed elevations and/or shadowed perspectives that end up in
the =
DataCAD AEC file, so they could be used for presentation drawings.
And =
we will have to hear from the folks in Australia on what kinds of
output =
they will need from the shadow viewer.
>>
>> The view/scale/layer dependency tools for symbols and text (and =
dimensions) are excellent, and like so many things in DataCAD, I think
=
we will find more and more uses for this. Flexibility that lets the =
user get the results they may need, is the opposite sort of tool than
we =
have seen and come to expect from BIM.
>>
>> DataCAD does not reduce the role of the architect, and
automatically =
generate the building from a bunch of dialog boxes. DataCAD gives us
=
the flexible tools we need to design and draw buildings.
Sincerely, Neil
http://neilblanchard.vox.com/library/posts/
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Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM
From: Robert <robertp...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: DBUG> Associative Dimension Stretch
In your display settings turn on dimension points, then hit "u" to to
regenerate the drawing.
You will see a dot in the same color as your dimension at the point
where the end of the line used to be.
You can snap to that dot as the first point in the stretch command and
the new end of the line where the dimension point needs to be.
Stick with the associative dimensions. Otherwise you cannot trust your
drawings.
If your having trouble with small fractions you can turn on rounding
under "dim-style" in the dimension menu.
Robert.
Fort Wayne, Indiana.
> Making changes to a plan I am needing to stretch my associative
> dimensions. How do I know where the point of the extension was if the
> dimension was not stretched with the wall corner. Is there some sort
> of indicator that I can turn on, I find myself either deleting the
> dimension and creating new or moving the string far away from my
> drawing, stretching a large area to catch the point in no-man’s land
> and then moving back.
>
> We don’t use a lot of associative dimensions but I am trying to get
> into it more and more.
>
> I didn’t find my answer on the forum posts, so many to search thru.
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