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Subject: TECH-DBUG Digest Monday, November 16 V2009 #148
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:42:01 -0500
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TECH-DBUG-digest Monday, November 16 2009 Volume 2009 : Number
148
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In this issue:
DBUG> DBUG member in the local news!
DBUG> OT: Cambridge builders
DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
DBUG> REMINDER DBUG at Build Boston, Wed. Nov 18th 6 pm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Michael Smith <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> DBUG member in the local news!
That fame, and $3.50, together might get me a cup of coffee... ;-)
Mike Smith
- -----
> Mike Smith is featured in a story in our local paper:
>
>
http://www.wickedlocal.com/maynard/news/x2087393642/New-fire-station-waiting-for-funds
>
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------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:22:59 -0500
From: Christopher Blair <christoph...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> OT: Cambridge builders
I have a friend who lives on Rice St in Cambridge
and owns a unit. He needs a contractor to work
on porch issues, some electric, and other small
scope items.
Would you make a recommendation of a name or
two that I may pass on to him. Otherwise it's
off to the yellow book for him.
Regards,
- --
Christopher Blair
DESIGN+PLANNING
17 Mahaiwe St Ste 2
Great Barrington MA 01230
(v)413.528.4960 (f)801.681.5124 (m)413.329.0618
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------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:39:10 -0800
From: george.r...@consultgra.com
Subject: DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
Evan Shu wrote, "we are encouraged
by the sense of community that remains strong among DataCAD folk.
Hang in
there, we see light at the end of the tunnel and better days ahead."
I think Evan has touched lightly on a very important idea we ought to
reflect on. In the last thirty years we have not needed to be
particularly
clever to succeed, that is particularly true in the west. We were
awash
in borrowed money to fertilize growth, and opportunity sprang up in
front
of us like grass. Suddenly we find ourselves living in a cashflow
environment. If your cashflow is net positive and you maintain cash
reserves that meet your needs, you survive, if not, you very rapidly
start
to die.
The early Christians have a lot to teach all of us about survival,
prosperity and competition. Before the year three hundred, generosity
of a
seemingly reckless magnitude distinguished the early Christians from
much
of the larger society around them and certainly from the Romans. Their
unfettered sharing resulted in surprising levels of Christian
prosperity in
spite of their generosity. Their remarkable success threatened the
popular
devotion of the masses to the more selfish social orders around
them. The
more of their wealth they poured freely into their Christian commons,
the
more all of them shared and could leverage their personal success,
creating
more wealth and a greater wellspring of resources in their commons.
The
power of this sharing triumphed over all competition, eventually
forcing
the Roman empire to embrace their religion, if not their generosity.
DataCAD, Cheap Tricks, the Forums and their Classifieds have been our
Architectural community's commons for a long long time, and I suggest,
that
in our debt fueled hyper-prosperous past, it was well used, but never
approached being maximized. The more value we put into our commons,
the
more we will all prosper from sharing. The smart best path to a more
prosperous 2010, is for each of us to begin by giving away more of the
value possessed by each of us, to all of us. What you can freely use,
you
don't have to spend money to create. The more we share, the lower all
of
our costs get. The lower our costs get, the more productive we
become. The
more productive we become, the more competitive we are, and the better
value we offer to our clients.
This strategy works just like linux. We all share a somewhat
exclusive
language that focuses the value of anything we share. That common
language
enables us to share not just knowledge, but labor with great
efficiency, to
flatten the peaks and valleys of our office manpower curves.
Smoothing
your recruiting, hiring and firing by inviting more collaboration
between
us by internet, will expand and globalize all of our individual
knowledge
bases, and simultaneously raise levels of innovation in our practice
and
lower overhead. For the radical libertarians out there, labor swaps
could
disappear costs and incomes lowering taxes, at least while you get
away
with it.
George Robertson Associates Inc. PS
3416 19th Avenue South
Seattle, WA 98144-6706
206 723 4200 206 721 1986 FAX
www.georgerobertson.com
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------------------------------
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:27:35 EST
From: SDES...@aol.com
Subject: DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
You make really good points that our "community" may sometimes taken
for
granted.
It's must be something in the water , or perhaps it's Build Boston
around
the corner....but I too have been reflecting on the DBUG group and
Datacad
in general.
I feel privileged to still communicate with folks I met decades ago
and if
it was not for a trip to France to personally meet another DBUG
member, I
would not have met my wife.
Datacad has always allowed me to feed my kids when they were babies
and the
economy was in other slumps. There has always been a full box of
tools
and open stable of unselfish experts to give me an "edge" when it's
needed,
to get the job....and then get it done.
Recently the Datacad/DBUG group has come to the rescue when times have
been
rougher than any I can recall in almost 40 years. These folks have
seen
me up and seen me face down and never judged, just encouraged. For
these
"connections" I am truly grateful.
I was reading this weekend about another State (TX) that has mandated
BIM
for all State projects. When I was in Portland,OR last year trying to
make
things happen - The BIM flag was waving like crazy. Those same firms
are
now sitting with empty stations and dormant software and barely
enough work
to make overhead, in most cases. I can only imagine what their
"corporate IT
philosophy" is now. I am heading out your way to Seattle next month
to
try the same thing all over again, we'll just have to see what shakes
loose.
You are right George, to weather this current (economic) storm we need
to
dig within our ranks as well as digging within ourselves for
solutions.
We're in good hands on all fronts.
Thanks again for the post.
David
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com
------------------------------
From: "Evan H. Shu, FAIA" <eva...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:00:00 EST
Subject: DBUG> REMINDER DBUG at Build Boston, Wed. Nov 18th 6 pm
To: dataca...@world.std.com
DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda
22nd Anniversary Meeting!
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
(Check Event Board for Room Location, may be Amphitheater)
Register for Build Boston Trade Show
(Event SA15)at <http://www.buildboston.com>
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
Host: DATACAD and DBUG
It's hard to believe that nearly twenty-two years have passed since an
enthusiastic group of DataCAD users got together and decided to host
monthly
meetings. Please join us for a retrospective look back, informative
presentations, and a preview of DataCAD X3.
AGENDA
* Welcome
Introductions, Announcements, and Anniversary Cake
* Exploring DataCAD 3D
by Mark Madura, DATACAD
Having more downtime is giving many of you the opportunity to explore
DataCAD's modeling and rendering capabilities. We'll take a few pages
out
of our Advanced Training Guide to provide the insight you need to put
DataCAD's 3D tools to work.
* Break / Group Photo
We will be taking a group photo to mark this special occasion during
the
break.
* DataCAD X3
by Mark Madura, DATACAD
The next major upgrade to DataCAD will advance 2D automation by
introducing
view and scale-dependent text, dimensions, and symbols. 3D
enhancements
will facilitate the creation of 2D elevations from models. During
this
presentation, we'll show you how X3 will help you get down to details
via
3D.
Economic Recovery Act: If you are not attending Build Boston, you may
be able
use the Plaza Level (upper level) entrance, without an attendee badge,
from
World Trade Center Avenue to access the Mezzanine Level where the
Amphitheater
(probable location of meeting) is located.
*Note: AIA Members can earn 1.5 CEU credits for attending this DBUG
Meeting,
Directions to Build Boston & Parking Information
Build Boston is at the Seaport World Trade Center, 200 Seaport
Boulevard,
Boston. There is limited indoor parking located directly across the
street from
the World Trade Center in addition to several outdoor lots in the
neighborhood.
For Further Directions to the Seaport World Trade Center Complex
http://www.seaportboston.com/SeaBos/Home/RightPage.asp?PID=7154366
FROM Points West via I-90:
Follow the Massachusetts Turnpike/Interstate 90 East to Exit 25 –
South Boston.
At the top of the ramp, bear left towards Seaport Boulevard. At the
first set of
lights, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take
a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage is located ahead on the right.
FROM Points South via I-93:
Heading northbound on I-93 towards Boston, take Exit 20, which will be
immediately after Exit 18. Follow the signs to “I-90 East.” Take the
first
tunnel exit to "South Boston.” At the first set of lights at the top
of the
ramp, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take a
right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage will be ahead on the right.
FROM Logan International Airport and Route 1A South:
Follow the signs towards I-90 West - Ted Williams Tunnel. Take the Ted
Williams
Tunnel to Exit 25. At the top of the ramp proceed straight onto B
Street. Follow
B Street to the end and take a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The
Seaport
Boulevard entrance to the Seaport Garage will be on your right.
FROM Points North via I-93:
Heading southbound on Interstate 93 Boston, take Exit 23, Purchase
Street and
move into the left lane. At the top of the ramp, take a left turn onto
the
Evelyn Moakley Bridge/Seaport Boulevard. Follow Seaport Boulevard for
approximately .8 miles, the Seaport Boulevard entrance to the Seaport
Garage
will be on the right, after the Seaport Boulevard/B Street
intersection.
FROM Points West via Storrow Drive:
Take Storrow Drive East to Leverett Circle and follow signs for
Interstate 93
South/Logan Airport. Once on Interstate 93 South, follow directions
from “Points
North”.
From Public Transportation:
From South Station, take the MBTA Silver Line Waterfront (one level
above the
Red Line, one below the food court) to World Trade Center Station.
Take the
stairs/escalators/elevators to the second level and exit onto World
Trade Center
*******************************
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db...@world.std.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:42:01 -0500
From: DATACAD-TECH
Reply-To: dataca...@googlegroups.com
datacad-tech - (Edited Technical Specific Info. from the DataCAD-DBUG
forum)
Please remember to EDIT DOWN follow-up replies & Adjust Subject
---------------------------------------------------------------
TECH-DBUG-digest Monday, November 16 2009 Volume 2009 : Number
148
For DBUG Tech Bulletin Bd or to Join: http://www.tinyurl.com/DBUGTech
NewPosts->dataca...@googlegroups.com OR dataca...@world.std.com
In this issue:
DBUG> DBUG member in the local news!
DBUG> OT: Cambridge builders
DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
DBUG> REMINDER DBUG at Build Boston, Wed. Nov 18th 6 pm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Michael Smith <mi...@signaturearchitects.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: DBUG> DBUG member in the local news!
That fame, and $3.50, together might get me a cup of coffee... ;-)
Mike Smith
- -----
> Mike Smith is featured in a story in our local paper:
>
>
http://www.wickedlocal.com/maynard/news/x2087393642/New-fire-station-waiting-for-funds
>
*******************************
To Join or view DBUG Bulletin Bd: http://www.tinyurl.com/DBUGforum
New Posts-> dataca...@googlegroups.com OR datacad-
db...@world.std.com
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:22:59 -0500
From: Christopher Blair <christoph...@verizon.net>
Subject: DBUG> OT: Cambridge builders
I have a friend who lives on Rice St in Cambridge
and owns a unit. He needs a contractor to work
on porch issues, some electric, and other small
scope items.
Would you make a recommendation of a name or
two that I may pass on to him. Otherwise it's
off to the yellow book for him.
Regards,
- --
Christopher Blair
DESIGN+PLANNING
17 Mahaiwe St Ste 2
Great Barrington MA 01230
(v)413.528.4960 (f)801.681.5124 (m)413.329.0618
*******************************
To Join or view DBUG Bulletin Bd: http://www.tinyurl.com/DBUGforum
New Posts-> dataca...@googlegroups.com OR datacad-
db...@world.std.com
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:39:10 -0800
From: george.r...@consultgra.com
Subject: DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
Evan Shu wrote, "we are encouraged
by the sense of community that remains strong among DataCAD folk.
Hang in
there, we see light at the end of the tunnel and better days ahead."
I think Evan has touched lightly on a very important idea we ought to
reflect on. In the last thirty years we have not needed to be
particularly
clever to succeed, that is particularly true in the west. We were
awash
in borrowed money to fertilize growth, and opportunity sprang up in
front
of us like grass. Suddenly we find ourselves living in a cashflow
environment. If your cashflow is net positive and you maintain cash
reserves that meet your needs, you survive, if not, you very rapidly
start
to die.
The early Christians have a lot to teach all of us about survival,
prosperity and competition. Before the year three hundred, generosity
of a
seemingly reckless magnitude distinguished the early Christians from
much
of the larger society around them and certainly from the Romans. Their
unfettered sharing resulted in surprising levels of Christian
prosperity in
spite of their generosity. Their remarkable success threatened the
popular
devotion of the masses to the more selfish social orders around
them. The
more of their wealth they poured freely into their Christian commons,
the
more all of them shared and could leverage their personal success,
creating
more wealth and a greater wellspring of resources in their commons.
The
power of this sharing triumphed over all competition, eventually
forcing
the Roman empire to embrace their religion, if not their generosity.
DataCAD, Cheap Tricks, the Forums and their Classifieds have been our
Architectural community's commons for a long long time, and I suggest,
that
in our debt fueled hyper-prosperous past, it was well used, but never
approached being maximized. The more value we put into our commons,
the
more we will all prosper from sharing. The smart best path to a more
prosperous 2010, is for each of us to begin by giving away more of the
value possessed by each of us, to all of us. What you can freely use,
you
don't have to spend money to create. The more we share, the lower all
of
our costs get. The lower our costs get, the more productive we
become. The
more productive we become, the more competitive we are, and the better
value we offer to our clients.
This strategy works just like linux. We all share a somewhat
exclusive
language that focuses the value of anything we share. That common
language
enables us to share not just knowledge, but labor with great
efficiency, to
flatten the peaks and valleys of our office manpower curves.
Smoothing
your recruiting, hiring and firing by inviting more collaboration
between
us by internet, will expand and globalize all of our individual
knowledge
bases, and simultaneously raise levels of innovation in our practice
and
lower overhead. For the radical libertarians out there, labor swaps
could
disappear costs and incomes lowering taxes, at least while you get
away
with it.
George Robertson Associates Inc. PS
3416 19th Avenue South
Seattle, WA 98144-6706
206 723 4200 206 721 1986 FAX
www.georgerobertson.com
*******************************
To Join or view DBUG Bulletin Bd: http://www.tinyurl.com/DBUGforum
New Posts-> dataca...@googlegroups.com OR datacad-
db...@world.std.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:27:35 EST
From: SDES...@aol.com
Subject: DBUG> Re: maximizing the DataCAD commons.
You make really good points that our "community" may sometimes taken
for
granted.
It's must be something in the water , or perhaps it's Build Boston
around
the corner....but I too have been reflecting on the DBUG group and
Datacad
in general.
I feel privileged to still communicate with folks I met decades ago
and if
it was not for a trip to France to personally meet another DBUG
member, I
would not have met my wife.
Datacad has always allowed me to feed my kids when they were babies
and the
economy was in other slumps. There has always been a full box of
tools
and open stable of unselfish experts to give me an "edge" when it's
needed,
to get the job....and then get it done.
Recently the Datacad/DBUG group has come to the rescue when times have
been
rougher than any I can recall in almost 40 years. These folks have
seen
me up and seen me face down and never judged, just encouraged. For
these
"connections" I am truly grateful.
I was reading this weekend about another State (TX) that has mandated
BIM
for all State projects. When I was in Portland,OR last year trying to
make
things happen - The BIM flag was waving like crazy. Those same firms
are
now sitting with empty stations and dormant software and barely
enough work
to make overhead, in most cases. I can only imagine what their
"corporate IT
philosophy" is now. I am heading out your way to Seattle next month
to
try the same thing all over again, we'll just have to see what shakes
loose.
You are right George, to weather this current (economic) storm we need
to
dig within our ranks as well as digging within ourselves for
solutions.
We're in good hands on all fronts.
Thanks again for the post.
David
David K. Sargert , LEED AP
PO Box 1304
Ranchos de Taos, NM 87557
505-573-9518
da...@sargertdesign.com
------------------------------
From: "Evan H. Shu, FAIA" <eva...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:00:00 EST
Subject: DBUG> REMINDER DBUG at Build Boston, Wed. Nov 18th 6 pm
To: dataca...@world.std.com
DBUG November 18, 2009 Agenda
22nd Anniversary Meeting!
When: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6 p.m.
Where : Build Boston Trade Show, World Trade Center
(Check Event Board for Room Location, may be Amphitheater)
Register for Build Boston Trade Show
(Event SA15)at <http://www.buildboston.com>
Commonwealth Pier, Northern Ave.
Boston, MA
Host: DATACAD and DBUG
It's hard to believe that nearly twenty-two years have passed since an
enthusiastic group of DataCAD users got together and decided to host
monthly
meetings. Please join us for a retrospective look back, informative
presentations, and a preview of DataCAD X3.
AGENDA
* Welcome
Introductions, Announcements, and Anniversary Cake
* Exploring DataCAD 3D
by Mark Madura, DATACAD
Having more downtime is giving many of you the opportunity to explore
DataCAD's modeling and rendering capabilities. We'll take a few pages
out
of our Advanced Training Guide to provide the insight you need to put
DataCAD's 3D tools to work.
* Break / Group Photo
We will be taking a group photo to mark this special occasion during
the
break.
* DataCAD X3
by Mark Madura, DATACAD
The next major upgrade to DataCAD will advance 2D automation by
introducing
view and scale-dependent text, dimensions, and symbols. 3D
enhancements
will facilitate the creation of 2D elevations from models. During
this
presentation, we'll show you how X3 will help you get down to details
via
3D.
Economic Recovery Act: If you are not attending Build Boston, you may
be able
use the Plaza Level (upper level) entrance, without an attendee badge,
from
World Trade Center Avenue to access the Mezzanine Level where the
Amphitheater
(probable location of meeting) is located.
*Note: AIA Members can earn 1.5 CEU credits for attending this DBUG
Meeting,
Directions to Build Boston & Parking Information
Build Boston is at the Seaport World Trade Center, 200 Seaport
Boulevard,
Boston. There is limited indoor parking located directly across the
street from
the World Trade Center in addition to several outdoor lots in the
neighborhood.
For Further Directions to the Seaport World Trade Center Complex
http://www.seaportboston.com/SeaBos/Home/RightPage.asp?PID=7154366
FROM Points West via I-90:
Follow the Massachusetts Turnpike/Interstate 90 East to Exit 25 –
South Boston.
At the top of the ramp, bear left towards Seaport Boulevard. At the
first set of
lights, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take
a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage is located ahead on the right.
FROM Points South via I-93:
Heading northbound on I-93 towards Boston, take Exit 20, which will be
immediately after Exit 18. Follow the signs to “I-90 East.” Take the
first
tunnel exit to "South Boston.” At the first set of lights at the top
of the
ramp, proceed straight onto East Service Road. At the next set of
lights, take a
right onto Seaport Boulevard. The Seaport Boulevard entrance to the
Seaport
Garage will be ahead on the right.
FROM Logan International Airport and Route 1A South:
Follow the signs towards I-90 West - Ted Williams Tunnel. Take the Ted
Williams
Tunnel to Exit 25. At the top of the ramp proceed straight onto B
Street. Follow
B Street to the end and take a right onto Seaport Boulevard. The
Seaport
Boulevard entrance to the Seaport Garage will be on your right.
FROM Points North via I-93:
Heading southbound on Interstate 93 Boston, take Exit 23, Purchase
Street and
move into the left lane. At the top of the ramp, take a left turn onto
the
Evelyn Moakley Bridge/Seaport Boulevard. Follow Seaport Boulevard for
approximately .8 miles, the Seaport Boulevard entrance to the Seaport
Garage
will be on the right, after the Seaport Boulevard/B Street
intersection.
FROM Points West via Storrow Drive:
Take Storrow Drive East to Leverett Circle and follow signs for
Interstate 93
South/Logan Airport. Once on Interstate 93 South, follow directions
from “Points
North”.
From Public Transportation:
From South Station, take the MBTA Silver Line Waterfront (one level
above the
Red Line, one below the food court) to World Trade Center Station.
Take the
stairs/escalators/elevators to the second level and exit onto World
Trade Center
*******************************
To Join or view DBUG Bulletin Bd:http://www.tinyurl.com/DBUGforum
New Posts-> dataca...@googlegroups.com OR datacad-
db...@world.std.com
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