Re: DBUG> OT:Kitchen Cab Programs

[James Horecka]

3D Modeling is easy enough in DataCAD.

In the end, I'd say it depends on complexity. I mean, it's one thing
to model European Box cabinetry, and quite another to model
raised-panel in cope-and-stick frame doors with scalloped "cathedral"
head rails over face frames. Still another to include turned woodwork
and fancy bas-relief carved wood applique accents.

Key is working to the appropriate level of abstraction.

Euro Box should be a flash, piece of cake. Model one basic box with
pulls to your satisfaction. Base all others on that seed. Use Symbols
where appropriate (those p= ulls, e.g.).

Raised panel, cope-n-stick & scallops all can be modeled, if you've
patience. Bear in mind that this stuff can get heavy, polygon-wise.
the thing with cathedral scallops is that each serpentine curve
differs, depending on width of door.

You can use shorthand 3D if you're not overly close.

Never model more than you have to. For example, if you can't see the
backs nor guts of a cabinet, for heaven's sake don't model 'em!

Note:
I always start with a sound Floor Plan. Work out all the details there.

I often do a massing model first. Boxes and countertops only.

Frankly, that's usually enough. I find that no matter what I design,
residential-wise, the end result will be different, colored by
salesmen, the General, the Finish Carpentry Sub, the Cabinet Maker,
the Owner and more. I let them figure it out. As long as the Owner is
happy, I'm happy.

We have a place near us called Tile Mile. Just east of Disneyland. I
pass it everyday. Literally a mile, at LEAST, of large and small
concerns selling everything imaginab= le in tile, stone, wild
countertops, casework and more. The showrooms will blow your mind. By
the time a Client visits there, spends maybe a few weeks= browsing,
his+her entire outlook on "what's possible" gets rewritten.

Commercial, that's a different story. Usually what I draft gets built,
to the letter. Exacting casework elevations and large-scale plans
essential, especially with disabled access requirements being what
they are (exacting). Sometimes I model these, for nice walk-throughs.
Nearly always Euro-Box in commercial. Super easy to model in 3D.

Go man, GO!

James Horecka, AIA
Architect

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Any recommendations for a kitchen cabinet program or add on to Dcad
that is not too expensive. I am trying to design a kitchen but even
with sketch up etc. cannot come up with decent 3d drawings to compete
with the cabinet companies. Do not want to spend for the expensive
programs but still need something to work with. Need more
sophistication than the standard library symbols with Dcad.

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[Robert Scott]

Sure you can model almost anything in Datacad or use the 3D casework
templates as a starting point. Wouldn't it be great to have a drag
and drop kitchen module like this:
http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/rooms_ideas/kitchen/download1.html

Kraftmaid has tons of cabinets models for free posted on the 3D
warehouse site:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=1578714967053181502720351&scoring=m

Robert Scott

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:13 AM, James Horecka
<jhor...@verizon.net>wrote:

>>
>> 3D Modeling is easy enough in DataCAD.
>>
>> In the end, I'd say it depends on complexity. I mean, it's one thing
>> to model European Box cabinetry, and quite another to model
>> raised-panel in cope-and-stick frame doors with scalloped "cathedral"
>> head rails over face frames. Still another to include turned woodwork
>> and fancy bas-relief carved wood applique accents.
>>
>> Key is working to the appropriate level of abstraction.

[James Horecka]

The thing is about 3D Kitchens:

Any Joe can walk into a local home center here, or a specialty shop,
and get FREEEEEEEEEE digital 3D Kitchen design.

These places are all over out here.

I could pop into a joint on State College Blvd and walk out with a
bitchin' design in no time, for no dime.

:(

James Horecka, AIA
Architect

>>>>>>>>>
Sure you can model almost anything in Datacad or use the 3D casework
templates as a starting point. Wouldn't it be great to have a drag
and drop kitchen module like this:
http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/rooms_ideas/kitchen/download1.html

Kraftmaid has tons of cabinets models for free posted on the 3D
warehouse site:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=3D1578714967053181502720351&scoring=3Dm