Ancient skeletons discovered in Georgia threaten to overturn the theory of human evolution

[Lee]

This would kind of fit with Sitchin's theory, where the Adam was taken back to the ABZU to work the mines--Lee

 

SOURCE:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1212060/Ancient-skeletons-discovered-Georgia-threaten-overturn-theory-human-evolution.html

 

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Ancient skeletons discovered in Georgia threaten to overturn the theory of human evolution

By David Derbyshire
UPDATED: 07:26 EST, 9 September 2009

 

For generations, scientists have believed Africa was the cradle of mankind.

Now a stunning archaeological discovery suggests our primitive ancestors left Africa to explore the world around 800,000 years earlier than was previously thought before returning to their home continent.

It was there - hundreds of thousands of years later - that they evolved into modern humans and embarked on a second mass migration, researchers say.

Astonishing discovery: Archaeologists have unearthed six ancient skeletons dating back 1.8 million years in the hills of Georgia

Archaeologists have unearthed six ancient skeletons dating back 1.8 million years in the hills of Georgia which threaten to overturn the theory of human evolution.

The Georgian bones - which include incredibly well preserved skulls and teeth - are the earliest humans ever found outside Africa.

The remains belong to a race of short early humans with small primitive brains who walked and ran like modern people.

They were found alongside stone tools, animal remains and plants - suggesting that they hunted and butchered meat.

Professor David Lordkipanidze with one of the skulls from the Georgia site

Archaeologists now believe that our ancestors left for Europe at least 1.8million years ago, before returning to Africa and developing into Homo Sapiens

Prof David Lordkipanidze, the direct of the Georgian National Museum, said: 'Before our findings, the prevailing view was that humans came out of Africa almost 1million years ago, that they already had sophisticated stone tools, and that their body anatomy was quite advanced in terms of brain capacity and limb proportions. But what we are finding is quite different'

He said Africa was still the unchallenged cradle of mankind. But he added: 'Georgia may have been the cradle of the first Europeans.'

Their discovery muddies the already complicated history of mankind.

Archaeologists believe that the first true humans - a race of squat people called Homo habilis - evolved in Africa around 2.5 million years ago. The were followed by a taller athletic species called Homo erectus who migrated out of Africa to colonise Europe and Asia.

Outside Africa their descendents are thought to have died out. But in Africa, they turned into modern man who began a second wave of migration around 120,000 years ago.

The new finds suggest Homo erectus left Africa far earlier than was previously estimated and lived for a while in Eurasia.

Three skulls all found at the Dmanisi site

The new ancestors - found in Dmanisi - were around 150cm tall, and had brains half the size of modern people's.

'While the Dmanisi people were almost modern in their body proportions, and were highly efficient walkers and runners, their arms moved in a different way and their brains were tiny compared to ours,' he told the British Science Festival at Surrey University.

'Their brain capacity is about 600 cubic centimetres. The prevailing view before this discovery was that the humans who first left Africa had a brain size of about 1,000 cubic centimetres.

'Nevertheless they were sophisticated tool makers with high social and cognitive skills.'

The first Dmanisi fossils were found in 2001. The most recent has only just been unearthed and its details have yet to be published in a scientific journal.

Prof Lordkipanidze said the Dmanisi bones may have belonged to an early Homo erectus which lived in Georgia before moving on to the rest of Europe.

Or the early humans may then have returned to Africa, eventually giving rise to our own species, Homoe sapiens, he said.

'The question is whether Homo erectus orginated in Africa or Eurasia, and if in Eurasia, did we have vice-versa migrations? This idea looked very stupid a few years ago, but not today,' he told the British Science Festival.

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[Lee]

These would be the precursors to the Adam, the ones who were perhaps genetically modified to do the work in the mines.  Curiously, the story desn't say when these hominoids returned to South Africa to "evolve" into modern man...

--Lee

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On 5/22/2012 5:41 PM, Lee wrote:

This would kind of fit with Sitchin's theory, where the Adam was taken back to the ABZU to work the mines--Lee

One thing which is questionable is that Sitchin says the Anunnaki came to Earth about 450 thousand years ago...give or take a few thousand.
This new discovery says the new find in Georgia is from 1.8 million years ago.
Bears some looking into to make those dates compatible.
D

[Alan Cornette]

Lee:

     Very few archaeologists have not - have not made up their mind on the dates the first humans entered N. America. This holds true for the "beginning" in Europe and Africa. My opinion is that there are many who simply go along with mainstream, set paradigms regarding dating rather than be ostracised and lose their positions and livelihood. Otherwise, the old "farts" of the scientific community must admit their error in their close-minded attitude.

     Human related artifacts have been found in Hueyatlaco, Mexico and Sandia Cave, New Mexico that date to 250,000 years ago. As I recall, it took Enki and his sister/lover/co-worker many experiments over many years (perhaps 1,000s) to bring The Adam along where he was intelligent enough to be taught to work and communicate. Through all those years of experiments they may have set aside their efforts to concentrate more on their initial goal for coming to earth - the acquiring of gold. It was those mining efforts that caused the rebellion of the Anunnaki, lesser gods and the eventual development of the Avod - the "worker," not the "worshiper." Sitchin says the Anunnuki worked for forty "periods" which probably means 40 x 3600 - about 144,000 years. So you look at these old dates and some of them tend to agree with Sitchin's 450,000 year old date. 

     How the obvious remnents of the early "workers" got to the New World is an interesting question. I'd guess that there were periods of absence of the Anunnaki when migrations occurred and perhaps they were "brought" to the Americas for mining explorations. The most interesting, and probably unmentionable subject is how the Caucasians and Asians evolved. I've put this question to more than one supposedly learned individuals and the answer is always that the races naturally evolved over time to become the three major races - in simple terms, black, white, and yellow - and perhaps a "red man." 

     Anyway, my two cents worth this morning in America, I'm about ready to migrate to the southwest to get out of the tropical conditions we are experiencing in the state of Kentucky. Wonder if and where they'll find my bones one of these days.   Al C.                                  

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[mk23666]

For me the answer why there are several "types" of humans can be explained easily if one looks to what we have done to our domesticated animals/pets. We change them through selective breeding to suit a necessary purpose or we change them just for the aesthetics.

[mk23666]

When referring to "types" I meant racial types. I am of the opinion that the Gods made different "types" of us to suit specific or even multiple needs. Identification, aesthetics, etc. etc.

Also, because genes in DNA serve more than one purpose there may have been unforeseen result (such as skin color, hair texture/color, musculature) in manipulating our DNA.

[Alan Cornette]

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Lee <zle...@peoplepc.com<mailto:zle...@peoplepc.com>> wrote:

These would be the precursors to the Adam, the ones who were perhaps genetically modified to do the work in the mines.  Curiously, the story desn't say when these hominoids returned to South Africa to "evolve" into modern man...

--Lee

     This is a fascinating subject, one which scholars, because of "political correctness" and the racial implications, shy away from. The subject should be approached purely as a non-racial subject.

         German scholar, Johann Friedrich Blumanbach (1752 - 1840), chose the name in referring, in general terms, to the Caucasian white race of  people living in the Caucasus Mountains, the range separating the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea. This area borders Turkey, Northern Iran, Armenia, N. Syria and N. Iraq. This area borders Enlil territory as Sitchin describes the Way of Enlil.

         In speculating the origins of the Sumerians, some scholars have suggested they migrated south from the Caucasus area, including the Balkan states, but the opposite is probably true. Reading and believing Sitchin's work clarifies much for us but no one knows the exact details as to the circumstances and results of the "essence of the gods" intermingling with the creature of the Steppes under the guidance of Enki and Ninhursag in creating a worker in Africa. Enlil initially frowned upon such a creation (he was wise enough to know the final results) but later went to Africa to acquire some of "gods black-headed people" to help with his menial tasks back in Sumer.

          The real trouble began when the Anunnaki intermarried with the daughters of men (Marduk married Sarpanit, an earthling) and I suggest that the "Caucasians," over thousands of years, in the Age of Enlil (the Bull of Heaven), migrated north into the Caucasian area, and eastward into Europe. In evolutionary terms, there was too little time for a natural evolution of the white race. The old bones found in Georgia may be remnants of the gradual migration of a white race coming out of the Sumerian area.

          Similar circumstances involve the Asians and I might suggest a crazy notion here: relying upon archaeological evidence, which I do not have time to research today, they could have evolved from a different "race" or type of alien. What I find strange and rather cowardly from a scholastic standpoint, is that the subject is taboo. Religious, and maybe more obvious, narcissistic and personal beliefs prevent such discussion and research. I think the time is near where we must face the reality of not being alone in the galaxy.  Al C.

[semaj...@aol.com]

Al if you have a little look in to the teaching of the Vegas then you may well be right from a european point of view, but then you would need to cross reference that data with the kudos bible witch will give the true origin of western europe and of course Babylon! I have always noticed a conflict in data but that is not down to evolution I think, I believe it is the interaction of 3 different species of alien, I think there is a distinct difference in dna that shows in the nature of black people, asian and white people and I don't mean this in a racist way, I'm english/italian by blood but I tend to get on better with asian people for some strange reason. But back to the subject I think the time line is the thing we need to be looking at and our location within the galaxy at those times!

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[semaj...@aol.com]

Vedas sorry!

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[tarkin]

I remembered that humans have a fused chromosome. I looked it up, it
is our #2 chromosome. There is evidence of telomeres in the middle as
well as two areas of centromeres. Recall that chromosomes have the
telomeres on the ends and a centromere in the middle. Further, our #2
chromosome is almost identical to two separate chimpanzee chromosomes,
this is if they were placed end to end. Humans are the only primate
that has this fused chromosome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2

Tarkin

[semaj...@googlemail.com]

The second and third chromosome and if I remember rightly its the only example of fused chromosomes in all dna on earth, meaning to me that it doesn't happen naturally.
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[Lee]

If we were privy to all the bones they keep hidden in museum drawers because they don't fit their theory, we'd certainly know more.

 

Anyway, I can't wait to read this book, which I just ordered--Lee:

 

The Enigma of Cranial Deformation: Elongated Skulls of the Ancients [Paperback]

David Hatcher Childress (Author), Brien Foerster

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Lee <zle...@peoplepc.com<mailto:zle...@peoplepc.com>> wrote:

These would be the precursors to the Adam, the ones who were perhaps genetically modified to do the work in the mines.  Curiously, the story desn't say when these hominoids returned to South Africa to "evolve" into modern man...

--Lee

     This is a fascinating subject, one which scholars, because of "political correctness" and the racial implications, shy away from. The subject should be approached purely as a non-racial subject.

         German scholar, Johann Friedrich Blumanbach (1752 - 1840), chose the name in referring, in general terms, to the Caucasian white race of  people living in the Caucasus Mountains, the range separating the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea. This area borders Turkey, Northern Iran, Armenia, N. Syria and N. Iraq. This area borders Enlil territory as Sitchin describes the Way of Enlil.

         In speculating the origins of the Sumerians, some scholars have suggested they migrated south from the Caucasus area, including the Balkan states, but the opposite is probably true. Reading and believing Sitchin's work clarifies much for us but no one knows the exact details as to the circumstances and results of the "essence of the gods" intermingling with the creature of the Steppes under the guidance of Enki and Ninhursag in creating a worker in Africa. Enlil initially frowned upon such a creation (he was wise enough to know the final results) but later went to Africa to acquire some of "gods black-headed people" to help with his menial tasks back in Sumer.

          The real trouble began when the Anunnaki intermarried with the daughters of men (Marduk married Sarpanit, an earthling) and I suggest that the "Caucasians," over thousands of years, in the Age of Enlil (the Bull of Heaven), migrated north into the Caucasian area, and eastward into Europe. In evolutionary terms, there was too little time for a natural evolution of the white race. The old bones found in Georgia may be remnants of the gradual migration of a white race coming out of the Sumerian area.

          Similar circumstances involve the Asians and I might suggest a crazy notion here: relying upon archaeological evidence, which I do not have time to research today, they could have evolved from a different "race" or type of alien. What I find strange and rather cowardly from a scholastic standpoint, is that the subject is taboo. Religious, and maybe more obvious, narcissistic and personal beliefs prevent such discussion and research. I think the time is near where we must face the reality of not being alone in the galaxy.  Al C.

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[mk23666]

 It would really be interesting to attempt a fusing of the 2nd and 3rd chromosomes in chimps just to see what would happen. (I'm sure this has already quietly been done tho) If the fusing of chromosomes aren't a natural occurrance in nature then there is one of the smoking guns we have been looking for as solid proof of alien visitation and intervention/manipulation.

 

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:08:16 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:

The second and third chromosome and if I remember rightly its the only example of fused chromosomes in all dna on earth, meaning to me that it doesn't happen naturally.
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 theory of human evolution

I remembered that humans have a fused chromosome.  I looked it up, it
is our #2 chromosome.  There is evidence of telomeres in the middle as
well as two areas of centromeres.  Recall that chromosomes have the
telomeres on the ends and a centromere in the middle.  Further, our #2
chromosome is almost identical to two separate chimpanzee chromosomes,
this is if they were placed end to end.  Humans are the only primate
that has this fused chromosome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2

Tarkin

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[mk23666]

Maybe chromosome fusion is natural after all?

 

This page from Indiana University ( http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/chrom.su… ) lists papers showing evidence of chromosome fusion in:
* Mice
* Cattle
* Sheep
* Equines (horses)

Some others from the scientific literature:
* Mice: http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full…
* Cotton rat: http://www.jstor.org/stable/info/1378351
* Fruit flies: http://www.genetics.org/cgi/reprint/20/4…
* Mustard plants: http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/abst…
* Lilies: http://www.jstor.org/pss/4109616

But one could imagine a scenario where these occurrances above could also be explained as prior manipulations.

 

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:08:16 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:

[tarkin]

Yes, mutations, even fusion, occur in nature. Darwin is right
regarding his theory of evolution. The question is: could an entity
deliberately fuse a chromosome? I.E. to create the Adam. The answer
of course is yes, it is possible. While not fusion, man has been
crossbreeding things for a long time. My particular favorite is sweet
corn!

Tarkin

[Jolene]

I agree this premise makes sense. Al's question was one I've also
pondered. There is no way natural selection/evolution can account for
such drastic differentiation of the races because the time span involved
is too short. Especially if one follows the mainstream "out of Africa"
theory.

[Jolene]

Yes, Alan, I think you are on to something. I've often thought the same thing. Noticing the taller, stronger, blonder race of Scandanavians have also made me think their genetics might be a greater part Annunaki--the geographical/geologic isolation during ancient times would minimize the evolutionary aspect (intermingling of races), same with the Asians. I've been fairly insistent in conversations with my husband that the Asian peoples were part of a different genetic experiment--whether engineered by Annuanki or another alien race altogether--is up for speculation.

As we our genetic science catches up and becomes more accessible, we could get more answers.

I'm also reminded of the DNA analysis of the Chalker case out of Australia--don't have details in front of me--but the hair strand of a hybrid/blonde type did have a rare genetic marker only find in Asians. So perhaps there is Annunaki involvement here as well.

[semaj...@aol.com]

Well the vedas speaks more in the term that the teaching where not of mans hand, witch to me is another way of looking at sichin work on sumerian culture, I don't see a great difference, just a different point of view as to speak and australia well check the attached picture , I think this looks familiar to a lot of european and asian descriptions. Maybe it could be one experiment, but there must be species of different origin involved, because I believe the dracula legend is more than just a story, a servant of god out of sumeria who I might add took a human wife. Too much of a coincidence for this to be just a fictional story and that's just one example.

Regards
Wayne

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Yes, Alan, I think you are on to something. I've often thought the same thing. Noticing the taller, stronger, blonder race of Scandanavians have also made me think their genetics might be a greater part Annunaki--the geographical/geologic isolation during ancient times would minimize the evolutionary aspect (intermingling of races), same with the Asians. I've been fairly insistent in conversations with my husband that the Asian peoples were part of a different genetic experiment--whether engineered by Annuanki or another alien race altogether--is up for speculation. As we our genetic science catches up and becomes more accessible, we could get more answers. I'm also reminded of the DNA analysis of the Chalker case out of Australia--don't have details in front of me--but the hair strand of a hybrid/blonde type did have a rare genetic marker only find in Asians. So perhaps there is Annunaki involvement here as well. On 5/24/2012 7:17 AM, Alan Cornette wrote:   On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Lee <zle...@peoplepc.com<mailto:zle...@peoplepc.com>> wrote: These would be the precursors to the Adam, the ones who were perhaps genetically modified to do the work in the mines.  Curiously, the story desn't say when these hominoids returned to South Africa to "evolve" into modern man... --Lee      This is a fascinating subject, one which scholars, because of "political correctness" and the racial implications, shy away from. The subject should be approached purely as a non-racial subject.          German scholar, Johann Friedrich Blumanbach (1752 - 1840), chose the name in referring, in general terms, to the Caucasian white race of  people living in the Caucasus Mountains, the range separating the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea. This area borders Turkey, Northern Iran, Armenia, N. Syria and N. Iraq. This area borders Enlil territory as Sitchin describes the Way of Enlil.          In speculating the origins of the Sumerians, some scholars have suggested they migrated south from the Caucasus area, including the Balkan states, b

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