Transport evening 15/11/09 St Margaret's Environment Group

[Charles]

Do come to the Gladwyn Room in the St Margaret’s Church Centre next to
the Primary School in Bolton Lane Ipswich at 7:30 pm on Sunday 15
November for another talk in the series arranged by the St Margaret’s
Environment Group. Last July Andy Black cycled from Lands End to John
O'Groats to raise money for the Motor Neurone Disease Association and
will talk about his experience of travelling nearly a thousand miles
by bike in ten days. In addition Justin Hunt of Wombat cars will talk
about car clubs and demonstrate how easy it is to book a Wombat car.
Cycle rides and cycle maps are to be a feature of this meeting. In
addition if you have had any dealings with bus passes for the over
60’s do please come and share with meeting your experience.
Please park your bike in the St Margaret's School bike racks which can
be found by going down the entrance road to the school to just past
the kitchen block. The bike racks are on the left before the slope
down to the playground.

[Peter Miller]

Thanks Charles - I will be there.

It would be great to be able to get a proper car club network running
in Ipswich. It would take a number of people to 'convert' there
private cars to car club cars (and get paid when people use them).
http://www.wombatconvertyourcar.co.uk/

What we really need is a small grant per car from the council for the
first couple of years to make it make sense because of the fixed costs
associated with the group insurance and the equipment.
http://www.wombatconvertyourcar.co.uk/

Possibly we should push that together with a campaign to clear
pavements of fly-parked cars since the two go together very elegantly.




Regards,





Peter


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[Bryan Hall]

I have the new e excellent Coastal Cycle Route pack of 4 maps, featuring Tunstall-Dunwich Forests,Rendlesham Forest and the Coastal Cycle Routes. Produce via Coasts & Heaths with much input from David Kemp.
Complete set price of £4-99. Is this of interest,?

Should be available via TICs,and Libraries, will be on sale at Wickham Post Office and The Hill Tea Shop

Bryan Hall

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From: Charles [mailto:charles...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 13 November 2009 08:02
To: Cycle Ipswich
Subject: Transport evening 15/11/09 St Margaret's Environment Group

Do come to the Gladwyn Room in the St Margaret's Church Centre next to the Primary School in Bolton Lane Ipswich at 7:30 pm on Sunday 15 November for another talk in the series arranged by the St Margaret's Environment Group. Last July Andy Black cycled from Lands End to John O'Groats to raise money for the Motor Neurone Disease Association and will talk about his experience of travelling nearly a thousand miles by bike in ten days. In addition Justin Hunt of Wombat cars will talk about car clubs and demonstrate how easy it is to book a Wombat car.
Cycle rides and cycle maps are to be a feature of this meeting. In addition if you have had any dealings with bus passes for the over 60's do please come and share with meeting your experience.
Please park your bike in the St Margaret's School bike racks which can be found by going down the entrance road to the school to just past the kitchen block. The bike racks are on the left before the slope down to the playground.

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[Bryan Hall]

Thanks for info, sorry but cannot attend, please let me have Andy Blacks
contact details, as I would like to send him a donation for the MND
cause. Bryan Hall,Wickham Market.

[pete]

I have seen an even better scheme working in Tehran. There are no
buses but cars drive around a circuit all day and night. The circuits
are worked out to cover the City and as a driver serves his time he
can work up to the more profitable circuits. The cars are often full
as they pick up anyone who hails them if they have a space. No car is
used by just one passenger. The fares are cheap and the driver is
happy as his car is full of fare paying customers all day. Folks who
own cars leave them at home as it is so much cheaper and of course
there is no parking hassle. Ipswich Buses are an institution as far as
older people are concerned but to cyclist and motorists they block up
the road everytime they stop. They are also not cheap.

pete

[Charles]

Bryan

Thank you for your posting

I am getting Andy Black's contact details for you.

Please email me at charles...@hotmail.com

Regards

Charles

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[Charles]

If this was to be doone in Ipswich would it be better to have electric
cars?

Regards

Charles

[pete]

Charles,

Electric vehicles are always better but unfortunately they do not have
the range needed for this type of work. We already have electric buses
but these are driven by a diesel engine driving a generator which then
charges the batteries driving the bus. This is an almost ancient idea
and I feel it is more of a symbolic gesture.

pete

[Peter Miller]

I know that some of the major car clubs have experimented with
electric and hybrid cars but appear to have gone back to conventional
ones for now. I believe this both because electric cars are less
versatile on range, but importantly also because they are familiar and
may require more attention.

Personally I suggest that it would very sensible to stay with a very
conventional car as we ask people to move from owning a car to not
owning one. That change is hard enough. Personally I think the formula
of making small 4 seaters available with a few 7 seaters also
available is the most versatile combination.

We should remember that the major benefits of moving from private
ownership to car clubs is that people drives less for the simple
reason that when buys a car one pays paying over half when one commits
to ownership - as a result cars feel cheap on a journey by journey
basis especially if there is fuel in the tank! With car clubs one pays
the full cost when one makes the journey and people actually use there
cars much less. So... there are less cars cluttering up the streets
because there are less cars (each car club car replaces many private
cars); there is less congestion in the town because less people are
driving, and also less air pollution. There are more cyclists which is
believed to reduce risk for everyone, more use of public transport
which makes it more cost effective and people are taking more exercise
which makes them more healthy. The benefits of car clubs are therefore
felt by everyone, not just the subscriber.

I realise that this is a cycling email list I am hope we are not
boring cyclists too much, however the subject is possibly relevant to
cyclists.

I have updated the map with the locations for proposed cars. We are
now proposing 3 car club bays on the edges of the town retail core,
and also one at the hospital and one at the Swiss College (Copdock).
There are also other locations in discussion, however these 5 sites
(shown as brown on the map) could be very accessible to many people
both for business and private use.
http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/48177/

Do add comments within the pins and possibly even indicate that you
could be interested in using a particular car.



Regards,


Peter

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