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  <title>RE: Cumberlist: Re: Congress</title>
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  I thought he was talking about fair elections in the future. Never assume to know what someone else is thinking! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Debbie &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;To: cumberlist@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Fair “elections”? I assume you refer to 2000. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Carroll &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:21 PM
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  royndeb...@hotmail.com
  (Debra Shanks)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:20:07 UT
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  <title>RE: Cumberlist: Re: Congress</title>
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  Fair &amp;quot;elections&amp;quot;? I assume you refer to 2000. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Carroll &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; _____ &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Behalf Of Donald Barnhouse &lt;br&gt; Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:21 PM &lt;br&gt; To: cumberlist@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes it is. And you notice that those who object are not astonished, and &lt;br&gt; show no outrage; they are accustomed to it. I know of no power but prayer
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  dr...@comcast.net
  (DRCR)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:07:14 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Re: Congress</title>
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  We MUST become people of more and sincere prayer - especially for our nation. Our Pastor has begun a Sunday evening prayer group every month, just to pray for those things that confront us. I am so pleased to see a young man believe and place such a strong emphasis on prayer. To me, it is the only weapon we have to confront much that we confront in and out of the church today.
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  jds...@charter.net
  (J. Don Clark)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:56:34 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Re: Congress</title>
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  Yes it is. And you notice that those who object are not astonished, and show no outrage; they are accustomed to it. I know of no power but prayer that is equal to the challenges to democracy we face. With the growth of Acorn and its frauds, on top of existing political machine fraud, we can no longer count on fair elections. But I thank God that 2 Corinthians 10:4 still holds.
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  donaldgbarnho...@frontier.com
  (Donald Barnhouse)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:20:41 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Congress</title>
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  I have never made a political statement on the list, but I must respond to this post. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;This is pathetic for any group, much less our House of Representatives, regardless of which side of the aisle we may stand on. If our goverment has come to this, we are in terrible trouble. This is very scary, Donald.
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  jds...@charter.net
  (J. Don Clark)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:14:41 UT
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  <title>Congress</title>
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  Sisters and brothers, friends and family, &lt;br&gt; This is a glimpse inside the workings of Congress we should all see. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgUCdefSW8&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  donaldgbarnho...@frontier.com
  (Donald Barnhouse)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:40:27 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Re: How about helping out?</title>
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  Sidney: &lt;br&gt; I know you are correct about this. I know of a PCA congregation in our area that does this. However, I cannot understand how anyone can take the thing that stands for the &amp;quot;central act of Christian worship&amp;quot; and remove it from the Sanctuary. &lt;br&gt; Like J. David mentioned, I know of several churches in the PCUSA which place a chalice and paten on the table when it is not being used for the Sacrament on that day. My understanding is that, traditionally, these were made of clay, symbolizing that from which we come, but can be made of wood, silver, gold, etc.
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  jds...@charter.net
  (J. Don Clark)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:56:19 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Re: Self Storage Units in McKenzie</title>
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  Bob, &lt;br&gt; Thanks for answering so quickly. Just trying to keep our business in &lt;br&gt; the C.P. family. &lt;br&gt; Geoff
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  nityn...@mac.com
  (Geoff Knight)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:03:43 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Re: Self Storage Units in McKenzie</title>
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  Hey Bert, no problem. Thanks for the info. Hope you and Pat are well. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Geoff
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  nityn...@mac.com
  (Geoff Knight)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:58:32 UT
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  <title>RE: Cumberlist: Re: Self Storage Units in McKenzie</title>
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  Geoff, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thank you for thinking of us. We sold our all of our storage units in &lt;br&gt; McKenzie and at the Airport at the end of 2008. The new owners number is &lt;br&gt; 731-352-8212. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;We still have 26 units in Trezevant, if you have an interest. That number &lt;br&gt; is 731-352-7500. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bob &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bob Rutledge &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bob Rutledge Advertising
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  rutled...@charter.net
  (Bob Rutledge)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:44:11 UT
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  <title>Re: Cumberlist: Self Storage Units in McKenzie</title>
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  Geoff, sorry I misspelled your name on my previous post. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bert &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;----- Original Message ----- &lt;br&gt; To: cumberlist@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;BERT OR PAT OWEN &lt;br&gt; 7906 MANNER POINTE DR. &lt;br&gt; LOUISVILLE, KY 40220 &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;HOME PHONE: (502) 749-1940 &lt;br&gt; CELL PHONE: (502) 287-2711 &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;E-MAIL: BertOrPatO...@insightbb.com
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  bertorpato...@insightbb.com
  (Bert Owen)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:39:09 UT
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  <title>Storage units</title>
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  Jeff, &lt;br&gt; Bob is on the Cumberlist. I am making this reply from a recent post of his and it contains some contact information. &lt;br&gt; Bert Owen &lt;br&gt; ----- Original Message ----- &lt;br&gt; To: cumberlist@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; BERT OR PAT OWEN &lt;br&gt; 7906 MANNER POINTE DR. &lt;br&gt; LOUISVILLE, KY 40220 &lt;br&gt; HOME PHONE: (502) 749-1940 &lt;br&gt; CELL PHONE: (502) 287-2711
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  bertorpato...@insightbb.com
  (Bert Owen)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:35:44 UT
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  <title>Self Storage Units in McKenzie</title>
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  Hi all, &lt;br&gt; Our daughter Marisa Knight is a freshman at Bethel. She has to move &lt;br&gt; her stuff out of the dorm between semesters. I&#39;ve heard that perhaps &lt;br&gt; Bob Rutledge has some self storage units for rent, but can&#39;t find a &lt;br&gt; contact number. Bob, are you on this list? Or can someone help us out &lt;br&gt; with some local information?
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  nityn...@mac.com
  (Geoff Knight)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:18:11 UT
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  <title>RE: Cumberlist: Re: How about helping out?</title>
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  At Cookeville we light the 4th candle (pink) for Joy - we light the third candle as Love . . . the 1st as hope and the 2nd as peace. From time to time we revert to an even older tradition of lighting the candles in this order 1)prophecy, 2) Bethlehem, 3) shepherd and 4) Angel - and we make the Angel candle the pink candle. We have a complete stand with a large circle wreath with a Christ candle in the center that is lighted on Christmas eve - actually our Paschal candle is turned into the Advent wreath/candles - it is placed away from the communion table - and we have various families lead in the service of the lighting of the Advent candle for that day. Just to add a bit more discussion to J. Don&#39;s comments - what most of us have is a communion table - but some churches have an altar table (which should/must be attached to the wall) - which offers a whole different set of understanding. Just my take.
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  char...@cookevillecpchurch.org
  (Charles McCaskey)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:46:26 UT
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  <title>RE: Cumberlist: How about helping out?</title>
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  Friends, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I agree wholeheartedly with J. Don. The communion table should be reserved for the elements. We often treat it like a table for general decoration, but doing so takes away from the power of the symbolism of communion, even on Sundays when we aren’t sharing the sacrament. The three central visual images of the sanctuary for Reformed churches should be the pulpit, the table, and the font, pointing to the centrality of the Word and Sacraments in Reformed worship.
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  jebr...@memphisseminary.edu
  (Earheart Brown, Jay)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:07:00 UT
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