Problems with "Combining double breve"
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Wolfgang
Oct 8, 2009, 10:57:50 AM10/8/09
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Hi,
I want to use Cufon to display IPA texts on a website. Seems to be a
great tool so far!
Unfortunately, the chars "0x035C" (Combining double breve below) and
"0x361" (combining double inverted breve") do not seem to work for
font "Doulos SIL" ( http://scripts.sil.org/DoulosSIL_download ).
I placed a screenshot of my sample here: http://www.hg-online.de/downloads/cufon.png
The character right to the breve is moved to much to the right.
The sample tries to display the char by specifying the font family
through CSS and by using Cufon. I also tried it with "Lucida Sans
Unicode", here the breves did not work at all. And "Arial Unicode MS"
failed in the generator (message "OK, but.. .. can't do much without
a font."). Maybe the file is too large (22MB)...
Does anybody have an idea what might go wrong? Is it a matter of the
font generator or of Cufon?
Thanks
Wolfgang
============================
Here is my JSP file which creates the HTML (I don't post the generated
HTML because I fear that the chars might get broken in this forum):
<%@ page language="java" contentType="text/html; charset=UTF-8"
pageEncoding="UTF-8"%>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://
www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<script src="cufon-yui.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Doulos_SIL_400.font.js" type="text/javascript"></
script>
<script src="Lucida_Sans_Unicode_400.font.js" type="text/
javascript"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
Cufon.DOM.ready(function() {
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Doulos SIL').replace
(document.getElementById('test3'));
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Lucida Sans Unicode').replace
(document.getElementById('test5'));
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Arial Unicode MS').replace
(document.getElementById('test5'));
});
</script>
<title>Insert title here</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1 id="test1">Testing (default font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b! a<%=
(char) 0x361%>b</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test2" style="font-family:'Doulos SIL'">Testing Doulos (CSS
font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
<h1 id="test3">Testing Doulos (Cufon): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b! a<%=
(char) 0x361%>b</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test4" style="font-family:'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Testing
Lucida Sans Unicode (CSS font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char)
0x361%>b!</h1>
<h1 id="test5">Testing Lucida Sans Unicode (Cufon): a<%=(char) 0x35c
%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test6" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'">Testing Arial
Unicode MS (CSS font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
</body>
</html>
I want to use Cufon to display IPA texts on a website. Seems to be a
great tool so far!
Unfortunately, the chars "0x035C" (Combining double breve below) and
"0x361" (combining double inverted breve") do not seem to work for
font "Doulos SIL" ( http://scripts.sil.org/DoulosSIL_download ).
I placed a screenshot of my sample here: http://www.hg-online.de/downloads/cufon.png
The character right to the breve is moved to much to the right.
The sample tries to display the char by specifying the font family
through CSS and by using Cufon. I also tried it with "Lucida Sans
Unicode", here the breves did not work at all. And "Arial Unicode MS"
failed in the generator (message "OK, but.. .. can't do much without
a font."). Maybe the file is too large (22MB)...
Does anybody have an idea what might go wrong? Is it a matter of the
font generator or of Cufon?
Thanks
Wolfgang
============================
Here is my JSP file which creates the HTML (I don't post the generated
HTML because I fear that the chars might get broken in this forum):
<%@ page language="java" contentType="text/html; charset=UTF-8"
pageEncoding="UTF-8"%>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://
www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<script src="cufon-yui.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Doulos_SIL_400.font.js" type="text/javascript"></
script>
<script src="Lucida_Sans_Unicode_400.font.js" type="text/
javascript"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
Cufon.DOM.ready(function() {
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Doulos SIL').replace
(document.getElementById('test3'));
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Lucida Sans Unicode').replace
(document.getElementById('test5'));
Cufon.set('fontFamily', 'Arial Unicode MS').replace
(document.getElementById('test5'));
});
</script>
<title>Insert title here</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1 id="test1">Testing (default font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b! a<%=
(char) 0x361%>b</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test2" style="font-family:'Doulos SIL'">Testing Doulos (CSS
font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
<h1 id="test3">Testing Doulos (Cufon): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b! a<%=
(char) 0x361%>b</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test4" style="font-family:'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Testing
Lucida Sans Unicode (CSS font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char)
0x361%>b!</h1>
<h1 id="test5">Testing Lucida Sans Unicode (Cufon): a<%=(char) 0x35c
%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
<br/>
<h1 id="test6" style="font-family:'Arial Unicode MS'">Testing Arial
Unicode MS (CSS font): a<%=(char) 0x35c%>b a<%=(char) 0x361%>b!</h1>
</body>
</html>
Simo Kinnunen
Oct 10, 2009, 10:01:02 AM10/10/09
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Hi Wolfgang,
Unfortunately combining characters are not supported yet, however as
they seem relatively simple to implement I'll add it to my todo list.
Would you mind filing a feature request at http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/issues?
Simo
Unfortunately combining characters are not supported yet, however as
they seem relatively simple to implement I'll add it to my todo list.
Would you mind filing a feature request at http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/issues?
Simo
Wolfgang
Oct 10, 2009, 6:07:54 PM10/10/09
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Thanks for your reply. I filed the feature request and linked it to
this thread.
This is unfortunately blocker for using Cufon in a project for a
customer of our company. But I didn't find any other alternatives for
it :-(. Is there a chance to speed up adding this feature by doing a
donation for the project?
Wolfgang
this thread.
This is unfortunately blocker for using Cufon in a project for a
customer of our company. But I didn't find any other alternatives for
it :-(. Is there a chance to speed up adding this feature by doing a
donation for the project?
Wolfgang
Simo Kinnunen
Oct 12, 2009, 5:13:41 PM10/12/09
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Hi Wolfgang,
While we certainly do appreciate donations, developing new features
(and clearing the backlog of old feature requests) is more of a time-
related issue. I'll look into it, but unfortunately I cannot guarantee
anything even if you do decide to donate, especially since I'm going
to have to study the issue a bit more to make sure that it's actually
possible to implement it.
Simo
While we certainly do appreciate donations, developing new features
(and clearing the backlog of old feature requests) is more of a time-
related issue. I'll look into it, but unfortunately I cannot guarantee
anything even if you do decide to donate, especially since I'm going
to have to study the issue a bit more to make sure that it's actually
possible to implement it.
Simo
Simo Kinnunen
Oct 15, 2009, 5:38:44 AM10/15/09
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Hi Wolfgang,
This feature seems to be more troublesome than I initially thought.
Fixing the gap would be easy, but placing the diacritics to their
correct positions requires information from the GPOS tables which
Cufón does not read at all (or actually only kerning tables are read).
Simo
On Oct 11, 2009, at 1:07 AM, Wolfgang wrote:
>
This feature seems to be more troublesome than I initially thought.
Fixing the gap would be easy, but placing the diacritics to their
correct positions requires information from the GPOS tables which
Cufón does not read at all (or actually only kerning tables are read).
Simo
On Oct 11, 2009, at 1:07 AM, Wolfgang wrote:
>
Wolfgang
Oct 15, 2009, 5:23:45 PM10/15/09
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Hi Simo,
does this mean "impossible"?
I need only two of the combining chars. Would it be possible that you
provide me with some basic hints on how to work around this myself?
Maybe I could make those two characters work for me and my special use
case? Hopefully there are "only" changes in the font js required?
Thanks
Wolfgang
does this mean "impossible"?
I need only two of the combining chars. Would it be possible that you
provide me with some basic hints on how to work around this myself?
Maybe I could make those two characters work for me and my special use
case? Hopefully there are "only" changes in the font js required?
Thanks
Wolfgang
Simo Kinnunen
Oct 17, 2009, 8:45:40 AM10/17/09
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Hi Wolfgang,
Well, at the very least you should be able to get rid of the gap by
using the latest development version (http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/blob/master/js/cufon.js
).
Simo
Well, at the very least you should be able to get rid of the gap by
using the latest development version (http://github.com/sorccu/cufon/blob/master/js/cufon.js
).
Simo
Wolfgang
Oct 20, 2009, 3:30:50 AM10/20/09
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Whow, this works great now for my two sample chars. Thanks a lot for
fixing it!
I will convince our customer to do a donation to this great project.
Wolfgang
fixing it!
I will convince our customer to do a donation to this great project.
Wolfgang
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