What feature would you like to see added to the CR-48?

[dsackr]

Personally I don't like the way I have to access web apps - At first
it was ok b/c I had icons next to the wrench - but then they seemed to
randomly disappear.

I would love to see a sliding side bar with all my web app icons
available...

[will]

This a pretty cool extension that I use- https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bgeheffmcecddlippefcefgnbhmfadab

I love context menus,probably why i like openbox better than gnome or kde.

[dsackr]

NICE! Its not "exactly" what I want but its pretty close...

On Feb 12, 3:54 am, will <wgreene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This a pretty cool extension that I

> use-https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bgeheffmcecddlippefcefgnbhm...

[Jeff]

Since the track pad is multi touch how about "pinch to zoom"? I
really can't think of a single way this would be legitimately useful,
but it would be cool.

[Glapoes]

You'll find in some of the other threads, I think it was first Caleb Eggensperger who pointed out there's some things on the 'roadmap' to be bringing to the trackpad.  http://dev.chromium.org/user-experience/multitouch.  If you click on the 'User experience' link at the top you'll also find some of the other areas they'll be looking at messing with stuff.

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[Jeff]

Good stuff there, I have a feeling no other notebook/netbook/laptop
will feel as epic as this one. I dread the day my CR-48 kicks the
bucket. I want an insurance option. Just sayin'

On Feb 12, 10:44 am, Glapoes <tynictan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You'll find in some of the other threads, I think it was first Caleb
> Eggensperger who pointed out there's some things on the 'roadmap' to be

> bringing to the trackpad.http://dev.chromium.org/user-experience/multitouch.  If you click on the

[Polyhedral]

I think it will get more interesting when we see more NaCl apps
outside of google labs.

[Niels Olson]

i would like about 50% louder speakers: I would like to set the Cr-48
on the counter and listen to NPR, Pandora, or thesixtyone while I take
a shower.

[Caleb Eggensperger]

External speakers would be a pretty cheap solution for your particular use case.

The problem I've found with loud laptop speakers is that the louder they are the lower the quality (usually) especially in a laptop this size. At some point the enclosure itself starts vibrating and speech becomes basically unintellegable.

[will]

I think they tweaked the ALSA settings in the last update,to me it sounds louder now.

[Shawn]

i would like a calculator.......

On Feb 12, 4:45 am, dsackr <dale.sackri...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Vchat20]

There is a very good web app version available in the App Store (works offline!): https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/liglcienpnkhdajdfmnpbgmpjglonipe

[will]

Interesting,but I think you can do most of that in the Omnibar.

Memory is much to precious in this OS, never mind its hardware to waste KB's on an unnecessary addon. 

[Smokin Joe]

Right off the top of my head, I'd really like a 'Next Window' button on the screen - perhaps near the upper right near the battery/wifi/time.

I'm trying to dig up the links, but I've actually seen that this feature could already have someone working on it.

[will]

If it helps I saw it at chromium os issues too,but I can't find it again.

[Caleb Eggensperger]

It's been done already on the latest builds I think. At least, I've seen bugs filed about how it's not working exactly correctly yet (something about it showing up on the login screen).

[Todd Vierling]

On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:34:21 AM UTC-5, Caleb Eggensperger wrote:

It's been done already on the latest builds I think. At least, I've seen bugs filed about how it's not working exactly correctly yet (something about it showing up on the login screen).

Yes, it's there in current developer builds (not Dev channel official builds, I don't think). It will show up in the 0.11.x official releases when those hit the Dev channel. It cycles not just full screen windows, but panels too.

[will]

I hope its optional,I don't like clutter and it seems unnecessary to me. 

[Smokin Joe]

ewww, not panels.

I was thinking more of being able to navigate around solely using the mouse.  You can't access other windows strictly using the mouse.  Panels?  Piece of cake.

[Glapoes]

Implementation of multitouch gestures would solve it in a snap, at least from my point of view.  Four finger swipes to a side could flip windows.  And it's actually what's proposed in the http://dev.chromium.org/user-experience/multitouch.  So that's cool.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Smokin Joe <joe.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

ewww, not panels.

I was thinking more of being able to navigate around solely using the mouse.  You can't access other windows strictly using the mouse.  Panels?  Piece of cake.

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[Deidre Elizabeth]

features for the cr-48  how about some multimedia support for aac files

everything on the web isn't flas and mp3 ya know

just saying, it's limited.... can't listen to my local station on the thing...  if i could i would need ubuntu and the such

[Ben Wilber]

Definitely need to expose more of OpenSSH's features in crosh's ssh client.  In particular, I need support for private keys, local and dynamic port forwarding (for SOCKS proxies) -- and Proxy Switchy extension doesn't work in ChromeOS.  That needs to work.

[Todd Vierling]

On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:34:35 PM UTC-5, Ben Wilber wrote:

Definitely need to expose more of OpenSSH's features in crosh's ssh client.  In particular, I need support for private keys,

Star the issue http://crosbug.com/11601 to watch implementation progress.

local and dynamic port forwarding (for SOCKS proxies)

At this point, making use of Developer Mode might be more appropriate. Most consumer users really won't need this, since arbitrary sockets aren't used in a consumer setting.

-- and Proxy Switchy extension doesn't work in ChromeOS.  That needs to work.

Proxy Switchy is based on a rather clunky native code extension. An API to make this accessible to Javascript is being implemented; star http://crbug.com/60099 to watch progress.

[Dain Binder]

The option to keep the device awake when the lid is closed; sometimes I like to close the lid when music is playing.

[nmstei]

how about just a little love for local storage? it does have an sd
card slot after all. would like to more easily be able to, at least,
get stuff off my sd card/usb storage to send up to the cloud.

[Justin Sargood]

yeah having some sort of user adjustable power management would be awesome, like changing sensitivity of the auto backlight, changing the sleep time and whether or not it goes to sleep when you close the lid.

[Sutty-Jane]

I've gone into Development mode, with some help from friend here. The Updates are fast and furious now. I would really like to see a more Stable Print Feature, or at least a way to determine which Printer is installed. Somehow I now have 10? I'd been able to use an HP All-in-One Web printer with no problems. Now since updating I've gotten all of the features installed twice! How to tell which ones to delete?

[Kenny Strawn]

I would like to see maybe instead of having the bookmarked "apps" having to be installed from a store there also be a way (via some Appmator-like feature that's built into Google Chrome) to be able to specify your own "apps" (by typing in a URL) as such that you can specify custom "app" shortcuts.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Sutty-Jane <spad...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've gone into Development mode, with some help from friend here. The Updates are fast and furious now. I would really like to see a more Stable Print Feature, or at least a way to determine which Printer is installed. Somehow I now have 10? I'd been able to use an HP All-in-One Web printer with no problems. Now since updating I've gotten all of the features installed twice! How to tell which ones to delete?

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[Kenny Strawn]

Specifically: I would like to see the ability to right-click any URL and click "Create shortcut to this app".

[Julian West]

I agree, this would be an excellent feature!

> Julian

[Glapoes]

I'm not on my Cr-48 right now, but in the other versions of Chrome if you go to the wrench, go down to tools, there's the options of 'create application shortcut'.  I don't doubt it's not present in the Chrome OS, but that would be a place for the functionality to reside.

[Will]

Though I should share this,for anyone who haven't seen or heard of this future feature :)

[Will]

P.S. look in the top right corner...

[Rob Bean]

First time I saw that was in of TV's developer builds of ChromiumOS. Nice to have, but I would prefer a keyboard shortcut or key that did the same thing. The 'next button' on the Cr-48 only switches between open windows. A modifier key could allow that key to cycle between tabs or windows.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 15:44, Will <wgree...@gmail.com> wrote:

P.S. look in the top right corner...

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[Chacko]

Ok, I am slow.  What is the new feature you are showing off?  There is a new game available?

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Will <wgree...@gmail.com> wrote:

Though I should share this,for anyone who haven't seen or heard of this future feature :)

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[Rob Bean]

In the upper right corner is a button that will cycle through available tabs and then windows when you click on it. Notice the resemblance to the key on the Cr-48? 

[Chacko]

I see, thanks, Rob.

I also see the clocks appears in a much readable font (not the, what I call graffiti font, in all releases so far, done by artist I suppose), sharp.  Is that a difference, or an artifact of taking the image?  I am more interested in that feature f they fixed it ;)

CqN 

[Dennis Lockhart]

Big changes coming down the pipe -

Goodbye, Google Chrome Address Bar

DennyL@GMail

[Smokin Joe]

Really?  Cycles through tabs as well?  boo, I just wanted windows!

[Niels Olson]

> In the upper right corner is a button that will cycle through available tabs and then windows when you click on it

FWIW, this has been in standard keystrokes for common OSs and browsers
for some time:

*next window: alt-tab
*previous window: alt-shift-tab
*next tab: ctrl-tab
*previous tab: ctrl-shift-tab

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Smokin Joe <joe.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Really?  Cycles through tabs as well?  boo, I just wanted windows!
>

[Kenny Strawn]

Why the *** do you want to have an operating system that is 100% proprietary to be able to run on the Cr-48?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Smokin Joe <joe.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

Really?  Cycles through tabs as well?  boo, I just wanted windows!

[Dennis Lockhart]

I think 'Smokin Joe' was saying he just wanted the new button functionality to just cycle through Chrome windows and not both Chrome windows and tabs. I don't believe he meant he wanted M$ Windoze on this thing. 
DennyL@GMail

[Will]

UI under development. Designs are subject to change.

[Will]

Never mind my post and my rant, I see where the misunderstanding is now.....

[Todd Vierling]

On Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:25:24 PM UTC-5, Will wrote:

Never mind my post and my rant, I see where the misunderstanding is now.....

hehee! At first I thought it was a trolly post, then I realized it was simply a misread of the thread. :) 

[Dax]

Parental controls of some sort. My kids have put their account on my
cr48 and I can't go look at their history to see where they are
surfing. It would be nice if the 'owner' account could set up accounts
that he could monitor, even take away the option for incognito in
those 'kid' accounts.

[Will]

Have you tried setting your router to OpenDNS?,there are many features including blocking content.http://www.opendns.com/

I know you want something built in,but this a useful workaround until the option is ready for Chrome OS :)

[Kenny Strawn]

Sure, you would want to keep kids under 12 at bay on the Internet, but *not* 13 or above...

[Smokin Joe]

hahahaha, Dennis nailed it - but damn, I wouldn't wish this misunderstanding on my worst enemy.

where's that Technologically Impaired Duck meme when I need it?

[Lizzy Swane]

the ability to play .pls playlist files as my christian station transmits over the internet in aac format only and shoutcast player won't play it but downloads the .pls file.. which would work fine in vls or audacious but not on cr-48 media player.... why is that?

[Steve Pirk]

Since Lizzy refreshed the thread, I thought this might be a good place to share an extension Cr-48 owners will love [I hope]. It is an extension called Cloud Save.

Here is the buzz I posted about it:

https://profiles.google.com/u/0/114144561369449816821/posts/HCGgcqcUEER

I cannot get Picasa to work, but I am able to right-click save to Google Docs and and about 8 other cloud storage solutions.

w00t!

-- steve

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 00:18, Lizzy Swane <lizzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

the ability to play .pls playlist files as my christian station transmits over the internet in aac format only and shoutcast player won't play it but downloads the .pls file.. which would work fine in vls or audacious but not on cr-48 media player.... why is that?

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[Steve Pirk]

I can play mp3 and ogg files directly in the browser, but streaming eludes most of us I think. Todd Vierling is working on trying to add a streaming player like mplayer to his builds.

I use streamripper a lot to rip internet radio to disk. gstreamer might have just the stream handling tools needed to feed internet streams to the built in audio player.

http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/features/

-- steve 

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 00:18, Lizzy Swane <lizzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

the ability to play .pls playlist files as my christian station transmits over the internet in aac format only and shoutcast player won't play it but downloads the .pls file.. which would work fine in vls or audacious but not on cr-48 media player.... why is that?

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[Lizzy Swane]

thinking i can't apt-get in chrome os for gstreamer, though i do agree, gstreamer with browser plugin would fix it.

[Steve Pirk]

Remember the source... [I cannot believe I thought of that... ;-]

You best bet is to build a dev machine, cook up your own build and compile in the source of the programs you want. If you use the Chromium OS source to compile, you should be able to drop the binares onto your ssd.

If you can build static, then that reduces the number of libraries you would have to add. I really should read Todd Vierling's blog on how he is adding applications to his tweaked builds.

-- steve

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 01:40, Lizzy Swane <lizzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

thinking i can't apt-get in chrome os for gstreamer, though i do agree, gstreamer with browser plugin would fix it.

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[Lizzy Swane]

ok feature i would like is a detachable keyboard that wcan be plced infron of the machine... or simply ditch the track pad and move the keyboard to the front of the machine.  trackpads of any kind are a waste.    either a dedicated wifi or wired (unplugable for storage) mouse.

[Chacko]

I have manged to run streaming yesterday, runs without problems for hours if the source is reliable.  I shall post soon.   I am working on an extension, to use it easier...  How many are interested?

CqN

[Chacko]

Adding static modules to the standard dev channel is not very difficult, if you have access to linux elsewhere.  I had done that for a couple of modules, before I requested Todd to provide a few drop in binaries, which he kindly agreed to.  Todd'd environment is much better, since he has the chromeos build image to work with.  Setting up chromeos builld may be a bit too challenging for most of the users here.

However, many modules like vi, I was able to bring in, from the ubuntu running under vmware on my winxp.  If the modules were already static built such InfoZip's version of zip/unzip (the grand daddy of all open src zip), they simply drop in.  Others might need a few more modules to be brought in and '' made linkable" and run time.  Since Todd started providing this service (Thank you, Todd), I have not done this.  Besides my list of desired utils were only a  handful...

 

CqN

[Chacko]

You can connect wired or wireless mouse now. My Emprex wireless works without a hitch.  I routinely unplug it midstream, and connect to my other laptop back and forth all the time.  I hear most any mouse work very well with the cr-48. 

CqN

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Lizzy Swane <lizzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

ok feature i would like is a detachable keyboard that wcan be plced infron of the machine... or simply ditch the track pad and move the keyboard to the front of the machine.  trackpads of any kind are a waste.    either a dedicated wifi or wired (unplugable for storage) mouse.

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[Dennis Lockhart]

While on the hardware subject, I'd like to have an ethernet port / nic on this thing, I know it's supposed to be a cloud machine but I use it @home alot too and a hardwire connection, to me, is preferred.
DennyL@GMail

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Lizzy Swane <lizzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

ok feature i would like is a detachable keyboard that wcan be plced infron of the machine... or simply ditch the track pad and move the keyboard to the front of the machine.  trackpads of any kind are a waste.    either a dedicated wifi or wired (unplugable for storage) mouse.

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[Steve Pirk]

Chacko, you know I am interested... ;-]

Here is an example of how I use streamripper to record shoutcast streams to disk:

egrep@orion:~/public_html$ cat /usr/local/bin/kexp

date=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`

show=kexp-$1

duration=$2

streamripper http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls -s --quiet -d $date-$show -A -a $date-kexp-stream.mp3 -L $date-$show/$date-kexp-stream.pls -l $duration -u "kexp rocks!"

-- steve

[Chase]

"Re: [Cr-48 Test Pilots] Re: What feature would you like to see added to the CR-48?"

I want the ability to view side by side windows and 

zip/unzip files in the cloud and 

I still want the ability to change my profile pic to a dressed up monkey!

[Rob Bean]

The profile picture can be changed, provided you took a picture during initial setup.

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[Chacko]

What is the procedure to change?

[Andy]

I'd love to see the camera/mic work with imo.com 

[Bejamin]

http://www.thechromesource.com/replacing-your-profile-picture-on-the-cr-48/

as said you need to have taken picture before

On Mar 10, 1:23 pm, Chacko <chackoner...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the procedure to change?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Rob Bean <papab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The profile picture can be changed, provided you took a picture during
> > initial setup.
>

> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:03, Chase <chasedoll...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Re: [Cr-48 Test Pilots] Re: What feature would you like to see added to
> >> the CR-48?"
>
> >> I want the ability to view side by side windows and

> >> zip/unzip files in the cloud *and *
> >> *I still want the ability to change my profile pic to a dressed up
> >> monkey!*

[Todd Vierling]

On Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:19:21 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:

I'd love to see the camera/mic work with imo.com 

You mean imo.im, I think. It works for me, albeit on an unofficial build. What version are you using (Wrench -> About)? 

[fortheloveoffiona]

There is an app for this in the Web Store called frame two pages...

[Kenny Strawn]

What about the syncing of remembered wireless networks and other settings/configuration to your Google account, not just data?

[CqN on cr-48@devChan-0.11.257.3]

Steve, With yesterday's new dev vesion 11.257.3 here, streams dont
work in my method anymore... So I now will have to wait to until it
get fixed again in a future release... Unfortunately, I do no have a
publicly used to working stream, now failed example, to file a report
showing something stoped working :(

CqN

On Mar 9, 2:45 pm, Steve Pirk <pirks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chacko, you *know* I am interested... ;-]

>
> Here is an example of how I use streamripper to record shoutcast streams to
> disk:
> egrep@orion:~/public_html$ cat /usr/local/bin/kexp
> date=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`
> show=kexp-$1
> duration=$2
> streamripperhttp://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls-s
> --quiet -d $date-$show -A -a $date-kexp-stream.mp3 -L
> $date-$show/$date-kexp-stream.pls -l $duration -u "kexp rocks!"
>

> -- steve <http://pirk.com>

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 08:32, Chacko <chackoner...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have manged to run streaming yesterday, runs without problems for hours
> > if the source is reliable.  I shall post soon.   I am working on an
> > extension, to use it easier...  How many are interested?
>
> > CqN
>

> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Steve Pirk <pirks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I can play mp3 and ogg files directly in the browser, but streaming eludes
> >> most of us I think. Todd Vierling is working on trying to add a streaming
> >> player like mplayer to his builds.
>
> >> I use streamripper a lot to rip internet radio to disk. gstreamer might
> >> have just the stream handling tools needed to feed internet streams to the
> >> built in audio player.
> >>http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/features/
> >> <http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/features/>
> >> -- steve
>

[Julian West]

One thing that would be awesome is the ability for the Cr-48 to incorporate the Android SDK.

That would make for better integration with the Android Market and by extension Android phones.

> Julian

[Kenny Strawn]

Hmmm?

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, CqN on cr...@devChan-0.11.257.3 <chacko...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Rob Bean]

Well, even if it had the SDK, wouldn't it still require a VM to run anything Android? The Cr-48 is already a touch underpowered as is.

[Kenny Strawn]

No one has given me any feedback on the inclusion of remembered wireless networks in Google Sync as of yet...

[Rob Bean]

I could see the benefit of storing those. Would make setting up after reinstall much more complete.

[Julian West]

Opps, sorry, I used the wrong terminology I guess.  What I meant is that there are some applications in the Android App Store which need to install a client on your computer.  An example of such an application is "EasyTether."  Currently, you can't use "EasyTether" because it requires a machine with Windows, OS X, or Ubuntu to work.  

It would be great if Chrome OS could support such functionality.

Hope that makes more sense.

> Julian

[Steve Pirk]

This stream url should always be working - it is a live feed from the radio station.

http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls

-- steve

[CqN on cr-48@devChan-0.11.257.3]

Steve,

Are you clicking on the link you provided to start it? That gives an
error here, or a redirection and then download the feed addresss...
So how do you currently listen to that from your cr-48?

I have other stream feed addresses, which appear to work from their
web site. But they use their own embedded players in the script like
itune player. Before the change I was able to have a reliable
operation of mp3 streams wrapped in a script to have it play with the
built in player. That does not work any more with this version.
There were similar problems a few versions before too. I have noticed
related problems with audio play in general, which were there a few
versions back.

1. Many streams once started, if the notebook sleeps, will not restart
even with manual clicks... You have delete the url and restart, and
then it will work... This is kind of the behavior in the NPR app.

2. The volume control keys are not working any more at all. In one
of the previous versions when this happened, a few reboots got it
working...

It is possible, it may be a comibination of seetings that is needed.
I had to turn off the first of two flash players for something else to
work properly here...

Steve, if you can listen to your link in cr-48, I would like to know
all your exact flags, extensions, ...

CqN

On Mar 13, 12:33 am, Steve Pirk <pirks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This stream url should always be working - it is a live feed from the radio
> station.
>

> http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls<http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls-s>
>  <http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls-s>
> -- steve <http://pirk.com>
>

[Kenny Strawn]

Yes, I know some other Android apps (Fiabee for instance) can install in Chrome OS, so yes the support for app tethering between devices already exists.

However, there is something that Chrome is missing: an AppInventor-like interface for developing Chrome apps (say, ChromeInventor or something). I also would like to see AppInventor support in Chrome OS, so that you can use Chrome OS to develop for Android (for example, in the Blocks Editor and all that, not just the Web client, although probably only for people with Android phones, so that the Emulator isn't needed).

[Chacko]

Kenny,

Just guessing:  The app you mentioned may be implemented entirely twice by the developers for the two platforms.  The Android and Chrome are such different animals there is no easy compatibility.

CqN

[Kenny Strawn]

And besides, AppInventor is by Google, so obviously Google has to do this.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Kenny Strawn <kenny....@gmail.com> wrote:

I know AppInventor may be implemented twice over for Chrome apps as well as Android apps, but what about the option to use Chrome to develop for Android? Just an idea.

[Kenny Strawn]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kenny Strawn <kenny....@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Cr-48 Test Pilots] Re: What feature would you like to see added to the CR-48?
To: Chacko <chacko...@gmail.com>


I know AppInventor may be implemented twice over for Chrome apps as well as Android apps, but what about the option to use Chrome to develop for Android? Just an idea.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Chacko <chacko...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Steve Pirk]

If I click on it or load the URL in Chrome, it downloads the listen.pls file. If you past that URL into Winamp or qmmp [or almost any mp3 player], it streams from the source.

To get the best idea of how it works, type the following on the command line in Linux:

mplayer http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls

It is pretty cool watching it establish the connection and starts streaming the current song being played.

That was why I wanted Todd to add mplayer ;-]

-- steve

[Kenny Strawn]

The ability to burn CDs or DVDs from a Cr-48 (and through a USB port).

[Kenny Strawn]

Okay, now this thread is dying. What do you guys think about the ability to burn CDs and DVDs from Chrome OS?

[Will]

No and no thank you.

[Rob Bean]

In my mind, it defeats the purpose of a cloudbook to also carry DVDs, CDs, BDs, etc. I am growing more comfortable using intermediary services like Dropbox for file storage. It makes reconfiguring the Cr-48 after I wipe the device much easier. I am constantly switching back and forth between official and Todd Vierling's builds of ChromiumOS for the Cr-48.  So, if there's data I need on another machine, I'll put it on Dropbox and it's available on every device I own. Alternatively, scp is only a few keypresses away.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 20:24, Will <wgree...@gmail.com> wrote:

No and no thank you.

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[Kenny Strawn]

Why not and why not? Being an remix artist myself, and given the fact that there is an audio editing app in the Web Store, the ability to burn especially CDs from Chrome OS would make sense. Especially since burning CDs is sometimes required in this situation, since you can't play the remixes on some devices without a CD.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Will <wgree...@gmail.com> wrote:

No and no thank you.

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[Rob Bean]

Back to the topic of this thread:

1. I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but better configuration options for power management. I don't like the idea of killing powerd altogether just to get a little additional time before the screen locks.

2. Better means of accessing the internal hardware, i.e Bluetooth, microphone and camera. If I were Lord of the Internet, my first edict would be to banish Flash from the web forever. It seems the only way to access these devices (short of adding software) is through Flash. Perhaps the camera could be a little more efficient if it wasn't also running Flash.

[Rob Bean]

Those remixes could be encoded to a digital format and encoded for playback on a multitude of devices.

[Kenny Strawn]

What about the ability to sync music with media playing devices, such as iPods, iPhones, or Android devices?

[Kenny Strawn]

Well, I also could sync the remixes to Fiabee and then play them on my Motorola Flipside. Or, possibly, via the Advanced File System flag, plug my phone in directly and sync with it, but that would be a bit of a stretch.

[Rob Bean]

Exactly. There are multiple ways to achieve the same goal. The Google notebook is intended for the cloud and you really wouldn't want everyone turning on dev-mode to get access to additional devices. Also, the kernel dependencies drop a bit by not including support for additional third-party devices like external hard drives, burners, pole dancers, calculators and the like that could be connected to the USB port.

[Tyler Moore]

This may be a vacant-of-understanding question, but is there any capacity for a web app to deliver the support for these sorts of peripherals, if only while connected to the internet?  Or would such things require more fundamental access in the OS and there's simply no means, current or in the future, such capabilities could not delivered for temporary use?

[Justin]

Tethering is possible...you just need a vpn client like openvpn for chromeos and a tethering client on android 

I used azilink, and modified a script I had floating around. It requires mods to the kernel (add tun/tap device capability) and a few app dependencies to get it to work

[Dennis Lockhart]

Maybe a compromise - instead of a CD or DVD the ability to create & mount an iso file might be of value.

I use this method a lot on virtual OS'es with something called MagicDisk ( on Windoze ). Linux has this ability already with the right packages installed so it might not be too big a deal to do it on a Cr-48 - just guessing though.
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[Kenny Strawn]

Where has the idea of Form Factors gone?

[Kenny Strawn]

Where has the idea of Form Factors gone?

[Anig Browl]

Visual tab switching/window management, and the apps tucked away in an omnimenu. 

http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/user-experience/window-management

I do not like the new tab screen, and I'm starting to cool on tabbed browsing in general. This has surprised me; I think it's because I do a lot of research these days and tend to end up with very many open tabs - up to 40 or 50 at a time (curiously, I tend to remember which is which fairly easily by position). Most of these are topic-centric, and the existing window/tab model in ChromeOS feels clunky. 

Also, the tab and nav bar take up a good bit of screen real estate - not really an issue on the desktop, but noticeable on a CR-48. When I'm reading or writing a long document (in google docs or, very often, a pdf) the space often makes the difference between ugly font rendering or settling for a reduced window showing less than a single page. Ony my desktop computer, the LCD monitor has lines burned in where the Chrome tab and nav bars are; I wouldn't like this to happen on the CR-48 and in any case it's often esier to work in full screen. But when in full screen mode, navigation and tab switching are pretty crippled. 

I don't actually need to see all my open tabs at once, but I would like a fast GPU accelerated way to pull out and switch between them. Most of the time that would mean flipping as in the mocks above (using timed partial zoomouts like the notify bubble or the on-off key for fast alt-tabbing), but for large numbers of tabs I'd like to be able to pull out again and see them as an array of thumbnails. Remember when Chrome used to show thumbnails of the 8 sites one visited most frequently on the new tab page? I would love to hit the Esc key and see thumbnails of all my open tabs at about the size of the app icons. And I would further love a way to re-order, select, group, and tag/bookmark those open tabs in order to create page sets.

Yes, that's a pretty open-ended request. But I think it has great general scope. Nowadays we're often handling large collections accessed via search (gmail, google docs, etc.). While hierarchical/nested folder arrangements remain useful, as the collection grows so does the administrative overhead - which is why gmail was such a welcome alternative to traditional mail clients. But going through search all the time is like looking at a room through a keyhole, and the existing lists+labels interface in gmail, contacts, and docs has limitations of its own. There's a reason so many people still like icons and thumbnails, and it's kind of odd to me that although I've added little photos to all my gmail contacts I can't see them arranged as a 2d matrix, or see my tabs as thumbnails, or see my docs and collections as distinct objects rather than just colored items in a list. Oh, and bookmarks...oh how I wish there were a better way to manage the hundreds of things I need bookmarked. Google Reader...right here in Google groups...there's a lot of places where we're trying to dig through hundreds or thousands of items at once, and could do so faster with a better visual metaphor.

...

You might wonder why, then, I don't care for the apps on the new tab screen. The problem there is that it feels like some kind of inferior page that is waiting to turn into a 'proper' tab. I can't quite articulate it and don't want to go off into a derail, but switching, reopening, and launching apps/tabs feels like a modal operation that should be mediated through a different interface from the page. This is a symptom of a general problem: that the linear structure of lists and menus ends up creating serious UI inefficiencies after a while. Right now, my screen shows:

Chrome:

• pinned and open tabs (about 20) plus a few status icons in the right hand corner
  
• navigation icons, [omnibox  mini-extensions], about 10 other extensions
  
• bookmarks - 6 nested folders and a few bookmarklets, and that was after the great purge and re-org of last week

Google cloud ecosystem

• Gmail, calendar, documents, photos Reader Web more ............ my google account, settings
• Google Groups search bar - a search bar right under the menu is a fixture in Google web apps, although the size and shape of the logo varies wildly
  

Google groups, which is trapped inside the 'more' menu above no matter how often I use it

• Group navigation links
  
• Topic heading (what feature would you like....) ............. overview/discussion tabs
  
• share, monitor and display options for this topic
  
• Reply, reply to author, link, report abuse, show original
  

Composition tools to reply to a message

• Post Cancel
  
• A picture of me in case I have an identity crisis
  
• attach a file/ edit subject/ quote/ etc
  
• [WYSIWYG edit bar]

Finally...

• Actual content
  

At any time there are between 5 and 12 horizontal strips in the top of the display to navigate, mediate, and classify content within the Google family of products. The median seems to be seven; I mainly use gmail, docs, news, reader, groups, scholar, calendar and maps. For other websites it's just three strips (tabs, nav/extension and bookmarks). I spend >50% of time within the google ecosystem and like it (obviously), but it's beginning to feel distressingly crufty. 

There is a strong aesthetic and business case for for folding 1d, 2d, and 2.5d array rendering into the Chrome/OS UI, and possibly 3d too. This will derive better value from limited screen real estate, reinforce Google's clean & minimalist design branding, may reduce rendering speed/footprint, and give google-branded products a distinct edge and feeling of low-level integration that will favorably differentiate Chrome/OS from certain other...inferior browsers and desktops. Longer-term, it will position chrome/OS to better navigate and utilize a semantic web where triples and Tries are common infrastructural elements underlying dynamic UI tools such as directed graphs and pivot tables.