> If you aren't saying "ewwwww" or "what the...?" and feeling somewhat repulsed or angry at the idea, then you are too far gone for this message.

> The message is regarding objectification of women. I've stayed silent when it's been done in the past on CPC mail/postings, but no longer. This is not a gentleman's club. It's not the Blush or Acropolis in Portland. It's not even the Anchor Inn at Oceanside. This is a public forum with both genders.

> When you say things about a gender that you wouldn't want to be said about someone you know and care about, it's objectification. (making an object of a person) If you tend to objectify the women you care about, I'm sorry for them.

> From this point forward, I will be pointing out this type of message in a public manner since the message was given in a public manner. You can make fun of me, you can say all types of things to criticize or defend or excuse this kind of thinking (objectification of women) because it's a free speech kind of country, but I'll continue to uphold what I believe to be a standard of decent communication  among our club.

> If you finished reading this, thanks. If you have a different opinion about it, go for it.

> Bethany

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark G. Forbes <mgfor...@mindspring.com>
> To: dd dd <thermalsurfin...@yahoo.com>; RVHPA <RV...@yahoogroups.com>; RVHGA list <rv...@yahoogroups.com>; CPC <cpcl@googlegroups.com>; OHGA list <memb...@ohga.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 11:14:47 PM
> Subject: CPC: Re: Oregon pilot map--your comments?

> [dd  says...]
> >>  http://tinyurl.com/yr7mwm
> >where  am  i  ?  i  don't  see  me  on  the  map  !     170th  aloha

> Like  I  said,  I  anonymized  it  to  zip  code  centers.  That  gets  it  close
> enough  to  look  up  a  list  of  local  pilots  on  the  USHPA  website,  and
> then  use  the  PilotConnected  feature  to  contact  them.  We're  going  to
> update  it  so  that  if  you  don't  have  it  turned  on  already,  and  have
> not  explicitly  turned  it  off,  there's  a  link  that  will  send  you  a
> message  that  tells  you  that  somebody  would  like  to  reach  you,  and
> you  need  to  go  turn  on  that  feature  if  you  want  to  be  accessible.
> That  improvement  isn't  done  yet,  so  you  need  to  go  turn  it  on
> manually  right  now.

> The  idea  of  PilotConnected  is  to  have  a  way  to  contact  another
> pilot  without  exposing  their  private  email  and  contact  information
> to  the  public.  It's  like  eBay's  contact-a-member  feature,  where  you
> send  a  form  to  a  seller  (for  example)  and  they  can  respond  back  to
> you  with  whatever  level  of  information  they  want  to  provide.  Our
> privacy  policy  prohibits  passing  out  personal  information  from  the
> database,  so  we  can't  just  give  somebody  contact  info  if  they  ask.

> The  problem  is  that  if  you  don't  know  where  East  Whoozitsville  is,
> it's  hard  to  tell  if  that's  near  the  place  where  you  want  to  ask
> about.  This  way  at  least  you  can  tell  where  pilots  exist,  and  see
> if  there's  anybody  in  the  neighborhood.  With  the  city  info,  you
> then  have  enough  to  look  them  up  in  the  member  list  on  the  USHPA
> website,  and  drop  them  a  message.

> When  I  look  at  the  map  near  170th,  I  see  a  listing  for  Aloha,  zip  97006.
> Looking  up  Aloha,  OR  on  the  USHPA  website,  I  find  two  pilots.  Neither
> of  them  are  you  though,  because  you're  actually  in  Beaverton.  :-)  When
> I  look  up  Beaverton  pilots  instead,  there  you  are.  So  then,  if  you
> had  PilotConnected  turned  on  (which  you  don't)  and  your  email  address
> was  correct  in  your  record  (which  it  might  be,  but  it's  not  exactly
> the  same  as  the  one  you're  using  now)  then  I'd  hit  the  link,  send  a
> message,  and  you'd  get  email  from  me.

> "Hi!  I'm  a  curvaceous  24-year-old  redhead  looking  for  a  pilot  I
> could  drive  for.  I  prefer  to  drive  in  the  nude  if  it  won't  bother
> you,  and  I  also  looove  to  buy  beer  and  pizza  after  driving  all  day
> on  cross  country  retrieves.  I  work  nights  as  a  topless  dancer  so
> I'm  free  during  the  day.  If  you're  interested  send  me  a  reply."

> (Ok,  that's  probably  in  the  *really  unlikely*  category.....)

> MGF

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