CPC website down

[Steve Roti]

FYI, the CPC website is down due to the attack on GoDaddy servers.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/ 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-down-anonymous-claims-responsibility/ 

[Jeff Wishnie]

Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.

Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?

Sent from my mobile

[Steve Roti]

Jeff,

I'm hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted many websites there for many years and this is the first significant outage. I realize some people don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be said about many other hosts as well.

Steve

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CC: cp...@googlegroups.com
From: je...@pacskyways.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
To: stev...@hotmail.com

[Steve Roti]

The CPC website is back up, at least partly. Looks like the database server is still down so the Google Maps page isn't working.

Steve

[Jeff Wishnie]

Just replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to the list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible. 

Today's Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the title "Despised Web Hosting… Company Goes Down", if that gives you any idea of GoDaddy's special place:

http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashes-sending-millions-of-websites-offline

And there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff

[Steve Roti]

Jeff,

I hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use and more reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I don't see a compelling reason to switch.

And for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the CPC website, I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the club doesn't have to pay anything for the website.

Steve

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700
From: je...@pacskyways.com
To: stev...@hotmail.com
CC: cp...@googlegroups.com

[Paul Murdoch]

I don’t know that it is a quality of service issue so much as it is a ‘this company and its founder have no morals or otherwise likable characteristics’ issue.

 

Kind of like buying free trade coffee vs. capitalist machine coffee.

 

Paul Murdoch

 

 

[Steve Roti]

Paul,

It's a personal opinion issue, not a moral issue. I don't want to be judging other people's morals.

Steve

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Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:54:53 -0700
From: pmur...@garywest.com
To: stev...@hotmail.com; cp...@googlegroups.com

[Paul Murdoch]

Understood.

 

I’m just explaining where Jeff is coming from.

 

That, and Bob Parsons makes it really easy to judge his morals.  They are despicable.  Objectively speaking.

[Jeff Wishnie]

And to be clear, I'm not questioning anyone on _this_ lists morals (I mean, we're PG pilots! They are impeccable! And Pat Hajak is not on this list… ;-)

I am simply offering my own time, free of charge, to move from this objectively terrible company—which, btw, has high prices and an inferior UI—to companies folks can feel pleased giving their money to.

Now that I understand that MY money isn't going to them, I'm not up in arms, just offering volunteer time.

I've done this before...

best,

Jeff

[Steve Roti]

I understand where Jeff is coming from.

I didn't realize you were an adherent of moral objectivism.

Steve

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Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:03:26 -0700

[Kevin Lee/ Thermal Tracker Paragliding]

Morals aside, Godaddy did not play it cool when I tried to transfer my domain, similar to this bloggers issue (in direct violation of the ICANN's rules on domain transfers:
http://www.yproxy.com/blog/godaddy-violates-icann-policy-with-60-day-hold-period/
and many, many others:
https://www.google.com/search?q=denying+a+domain+name+transfer+request&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=MTC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=rcs&sclient=psy-ab&q=godaddy+denying+a+domain+name+transfer+request&oq=godaddy+denying+a+domain+name+transfer+request&gs_l=serp.3...5942.8367.0.9182.8.7.0.0.0.2.406.1850.0j2j3j1j1.7.0.les%3Beqn%2Crate_low%3D0-030%2Crate_high%3D0-030%2Cmin_length%3D2%2Ccconf%3D1-0%2Csecond_pass%3Dfalse%2Cnum_suggestions%3D1%2Cignore_bad_origquery%3Dtrue..0.0...1c.1.CM11WOIFjXo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=fc872cf165fb055d&biw=1162&bih=772

I'm sure they've served many well, but after spending hours on the phone and finally countering with complaints filed with the ICANN to get my domain transferred, I'll opt out on their services in the future... forever.

Kevin




Thermal Tracker Paragliding
Instruction Sales Tours
6370 Hwy. 66
Ashland, Oregon 97520

541-890-7142
email: in...@thermaltracker.com
Website: www.thermaltracker.com

[Glen Baker]

Hmm...I've used godaddy for DNS services for years (not hosting, just DNS). I've found them to be far more reliable and much more reasonably priced than the other providers I've used. I didn't realize that I was should be doing background checks on the company executives when I was choosing a provider.

Dang, now I've just got to empty the laundry basket:

• I use godaddy.
• I eat meat (but I only eat vegetarian cows)
• I drink coffee without checking on its provenance.
• I have gotten lucky a time or two while paragliding.

However:

• I keep my reserve pack up-to-date.
• If I bake chocolate chip cookies I share.
• I've been known to provide beer in the LZ to those in need.

Hopefully I'm close to balancing out.

..glen

[gabe]

I second as others have said about godaddy they stole my intellectual property and held it for ransom for no gain other than to try and shake me down after I had been a customer of theirs.  I have been with Fatcow since and I like them.  They have chat window support and offer both domain registration and hosting together.