Will Gadd "On Living And Dying well"

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Steve Roti

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Oct 11, 2012, 12:59:33 PM10/11/12
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Dan Wells

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Oct 11, 2012, 3:33:47 PM10/11/12
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I READ THE POST, WATCHED THE VIDEO AND AM DETERMINED TO DO MORE FLYING TO MAKE UP FOR 63 YEARS OF PAST MISTAKES.

 

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Subject: CPC: Will Gadd "On Living And Dying well"

 

Bill Briskey

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Oct 12, 2012, 2:07:01 AM10/12/12
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Now wait a minute....  Don't just throw in the towel on your 63 years.  Not everyone is able to go all over the world flying exotic places funded by Red Bull or is sponsored by a micro-brew so can fly comps year-round on the latest equipment (Henzie probably will!).  Somebody has to keep the world turning while others are having the time of their lives.   You've done your share and now it's YOUR turn to play.  Some people just play earlier in life.  Besides, by teaching your offspring how to work hard and play hard through your example, they will be there to support you when you need them.  Whereas most of the carefree souls that didn't pay any dues will be dumpster-diving for thanksgiving dinner and griping about the size of their Welfare check. 

The trick is to figure out how to mix some irresponsible in with the responsible all your life!  So congratulations on those 63 years and make us all proud by getting some multiple 100Ks under your belt next year!

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Travis Forsman

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Oct 12, 2012, 11:39:50 AM10/12/12
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There are lots of people in this world who would choose to pick up the garbage, sweep the streets, and pump the port-a-potties... Not for the money... But because thats what they would love to do if money was no object! Right?!..... They'll fill in for the rest of us who just want to go play all the time. 
 

skf...@effectnet.com

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Oct 12, 2012, 11:59:33 AM10/12/12
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Yeah these type of posts always reek of elitism. If everyone did their dream for work(how many can make a living shopping, watching tv and drinking soda ( American Dream)) there would be no infastructure for Will to make a living climbing. Also if everyone who lives for ice climbing quit the day job and tried to film and write it would probably lower the earning potential plus only a handful would really have anything.interesting to say., it is not enough just to be near the top of your sport.

Yeah money doesn't matter if you have enough of it to live comfortable but that is a very personal distinction. Usually quoted by one above the median and without a child in college.

Steve

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Steve Roti

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Oct 12, 2012, 12:14:04 PM10/12/12
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Alan Watts isn't saying money doesn't matter. On the contrary he talks about finding a way to make money doing something you like.

Here are his words: "And, after all, if you do spend your life doing what you really like doing then you can become a master of it. The only way to become a master of something is to be really with it. And then you’ll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is."

Steve


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Nick Blizzard

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Oct 12, 2012, 12:21:42 PM10/12/12
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It simplifies the concept to the point that it's tangible for many that get stuck.  The point is, don't waste your life stuck in someone else's vision...stop...ask yourself what you want to do....then do it.  He's not saying don't work, he's saying don't get stuck because if you do, you're not just doing yourself an injustice but also future generations.  I find that the biggest draw to paragliding is being around many of you who say F$%k it!  I'm going to experience something unreal.  Let's go flying!  It's awesome...it's our reality

skf...@effectnet.com

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Oct 12, 2012, 1:47:58 PM10/12/12
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Oh I understand it fine, just reeks of elitism. Nothing wrong with buckling down doing work so you can relax and play. For me if I make what I love a job I will no longer enjoy it the same. It is great some can make a living pursuing their primary passion in life. Some prefer work being a distinct seperate aspect of their life. Me I'm just trying to get my daughter through college and keep my sanity by flying and buying the occasional new wing.

Steve Roti

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Oct 12, 2012, 2:39:25 PM10/12/12
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Elitism??? What Alan Watts said and what Will Gadd wrote doesn't seem to fit the definition: "The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources."

Personal note: I enjoy my work. As a database consultant back in the 80's and 90's I could have made way more money working in the Bay Area or Los Angeles or New York, but I chose Oregon because I prefer living here. So I gave up more money for work I like in a place I like. That's not elitism.

Steve
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