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Steve Roti  
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From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 3:30 pm
Subject: CPC website down
 
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From: Jeff Wishnie <j...@pacskyways.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.

Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?

Sent from my mobile

On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com> wrote:


 
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From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:52:33 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,
I'm hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted many websites there for many years and this is the first significant outage. I realize some people don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be said about many other hosts as well.
Steve

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
From: j...@pacskyways.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
To: stever...@hotmail.com

Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.
Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?
Sent from my mobile
On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com> wrote:

FYI, the CPC website is down due to the attack on GoDaddy servers.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-o...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-d...


 
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Steve Roti  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 3:59 pm
From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: CPC website down

The CPC website is back up, at least partly. Looks like the database server
is still down so the Google Maps page isn't working.

Steve


 
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Jeff Wishnie  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 4:41 pm
From: Jeff Wishnie <j...@pacskyways.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Just replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to the list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.  

Today's Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the title "Despised Web Hosting… Company Goes Down", if that gives you any idea of GoDaddy's special place:
http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashe...

And there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff


 
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Steve Roti  
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From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:56:18 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 4:56 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,
I hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use and more reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I don't see a compelling reason to switch.
And for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the CPC website, I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the club doesn't have to pay anything for the website.
Steve
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700
From: j...@pacskyways.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com
CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

                    Just replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to the list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.
Today's Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the title "Despised Web Hosting… Company Goes Down", if that gives you any idea of GoDaddy's special place:http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashe...
And there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.
So as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!
best,
Jeff

                On Monday, September 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Steve Roti wrote:

Jeff,
I'm hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted many websites there for many years and this is the first significant outage. I realize some people don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be said about many other hosts as well.
Steve

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
From: j...@pacskyways.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
To: stever...@hotmail.com

Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.
Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?
Sent from my mobile
On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com> wrote:

FYI, the CPC website is down due to the attack on GoDaddy servers.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-o...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-d...


 
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Paul Murdoch  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 4:58 pm
From: "Paul Murdoch" <pmurd...@garywest.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:54:53 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 4:54 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

I don't know that it is a quality of service issue so much as it is a
'this company and its founder have no morals or otherwise likable
characteristics' issue.

Kind of like buying free trade coffee vs. capitalist machine coffee.

Paul Murdoch

From: cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Roti
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:56 PM
To: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,

I hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use
and more reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I
don't see a compelling reason to switch.

And for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the
CPC website, I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the
club doesn't have to pay anything for the website.

Steve

________________________________

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700
From: j...@pacskyways.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com
CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Just replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to
the list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.

Today's Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the
title "Despised Web Hosting... Company Goes Down", if that gives you any
idea of GoDaddy's special place:

http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashes-s
ending-millions-of-websites-offline

And there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff

On Monday, September 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Steve Roti wrote:

        Jeff,

        I'm hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted
many websites there for many years and this is the first significant
outage. I realize some people don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be
said about many other hosts as well.

        Steve

________________________________

        CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
        From: j...@pacskyways.com
        Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down
        Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
        To: stever...@hotmail.com

        Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to
help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.

        Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for
name registration?

        Sent from my mobile

        On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

                FYI, the CPC website is down due to the attack on
GoDaddy servers.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-s
ites/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-down
-anonymous-claims-responsibility/


 
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Steve Roti  
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From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:03:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:03 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Paul,
It's a personal opinion issue, not a moral issue. I don't want to be judging other people's morals.
Steve

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:54:53 -0700
From: pmurd...@garywest.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com; cpcl@googlegroups.com

I don’t know that it is a quality of service issue so much as it
is a ‘this company and its founder have no morals or otherwise likable
characteristics’ issue.

Kind of like buying free trade coffee vs. capitalist machine
coffee.

Paul Murdoch

From:
cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Roti

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:56 PM

To: cpcl@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,

I
hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use and more
reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I don't see a
compelling reason to switch.

And
for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the CPC website,
I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the club doesn't have to
pay anything for the website.

Steve

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700

From: j...@pacskyways.com

To: stever...@hotmail.com

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Just
replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to the
list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.

Today's
Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the title
"Despised Web Hosting… Company Goes Down", if that gives you any idea
of GoDaddy's special place:

http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashe...

And
there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So
as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff

On Monday, September 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Steve Roti wrote:

Jeff,

I'm
hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted many websites there
for many years and this is the first significant outage. I realize some people
don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be said about many other hosts as well.

Steve

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com

From: j...@pacskyways.com

Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700

To: stever...@hotmail.com

Godaddy
is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the
site to non-slime balls.

Are
we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?

Sent from my mobile

On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com> wrote:

FYI,
the CPC website is down due to the attack on GoDaddy servers.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-o...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-d...


 
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Paul Murdoch  
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From: "Paul Murdoch" <pmurd...@garywest.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:03:26 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:03 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Understood.

I'm just explaining where Jeff is coming from.

That, and Bob Parsons makes it really easy to judge his morals.  They
are despicable.  Objectively speaking.

Paul Murdoch

From: cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Roti
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 2:03 PM
To: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Paul,

It's a personal opinion issue, not a moral issue. I don't want to be
judging other people's morals.

Steve

________________________________

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:54:53 -0700
From: pmurd...@garywest.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com; cpcl@googlegroups.com

I don't know that it is a quality of service issue so much as it is a
'this company and its founder have no morals or otherwise likable
characteristics' issue.

Kind of like buying free trade coffee vs. capitalist machine coffee.

Paul Murdoch

From: cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Roti
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:56 PM
To: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,

I hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use
and more reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I
don't see a compelling reason to switch.

And for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the
CPC website, I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the
club doesn't have to pay anything for the website.

Steve

________________________________

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700
From: j...@pacskyways.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com
CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Just replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to
the list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.

Today's Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the
title "Despised Web Hosting... Company Goes Down", if that gives you any
idea of GoDaddy's special place:

http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashes-s
ending-millions-of-websites-offline

And there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff

On Monday, September 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Steve Roti wrote:

        Jeff,

        I'm hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted
many websites there for many years and this is the first significant
outage. I realize some people don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be
said about many other hosts as well.

        Steve

________________________________

        CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com
        From: j...@pacskyways.com
        Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down
        Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700
        To: stever...@hotmail.com

        Godaddy is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to
help you migrate the site to non-slime balls.

        Are we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for
name registration?

        Sent from my mobile

        On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

                FYI, the CPC website is down due to the attack on
GoDaddy servers.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-s
ites/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-down
-anonymous-claims-responsibility/


 
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Jeff Wishnie  
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From: Jeff Wishnie <j...@pacskyways.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:13:45 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

And to be clear, I'm not questioning anyone on _this_ lists morals (I mean, we're PG pilots! They are impeccable! And Pat Hajak is not on this list… ;-)  

I am simply offering my own time, free of charge, to move from this objectively terrible company—which, btw, has high prices and an inferior UI—to companies folks can feel pleased giving their money to.

Now that I understand that MY money isn't going to them, I'm not up in arms, just offering volunteer time.

I've done this before...  

best,

Jeff


 
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Steve Roti  
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From: Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:16:25 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:16 pm
Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

I understand where Jeff is coming from.
I didn't realize you were an adherent of moral objectivism.
Steve

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:03:26 -0700
From: pmurd...@garywest.com
To: stever...@hotmail.com; cpcl@googlegroups.com

Understood.

I’m just explaining where Jeff is coming from.

That, and Bob Parsons makes it really easy to judge his morals.
They are despicable.  Objectively speaking.

Paul Murdoch

From:
cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Roti

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 2:03 PM

To: cpcl@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Paul,

It's
a personal opinion issue, not a moral issue. I don't want to be judging other
people's morals.

Steve

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:54:53 -0700

From: pmurd...@garywest.com

To: stever...@hotmail.com; cpcl@googlegroups.com

I don’t know that it is a quality of service issue so much as it
is a ‘this company and its founder have no morals or otherwise likable characteristics’
issue.

Kind of like buying free trade coffee vs. capitalist machine
coffee.

Paul Murdoch

From:
cpcl@googlegroups.com [mailto:cpcl@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Roti

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:56 PM

To: cpcl@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: CPC: CPC website down

Jeff,

I
hope we can agree to disagree on this. GoDaddy has been easy to use and more
reliable than some other hosts I've used over the years. I don't see a
compelling reason to switch.

And
for anyone who isn't familiar with the hosting arrangement for the CPC website,
I host it for free on my personal GoDaddy account so the club doesn't have to
pay anything for the website.

Steve

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:41:03 -0700

From: j...@pacskyways.com

To: stever...@hotmail.com

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Just
replied with more details off list, but feel I should respond to the
list that GoDaddy is particularly terrible.

Today's
Gawker article on the outage gives a little primer and has the title
"Despised Web Hosting… Company Goes Down", if that gives you any idea
of GoDaddy's special place:

http://gawker.com/5941990/despised-web-hosting-company-godaddy-crashe...

And
there are many hosting services that are liked and respected.

So
as I said, I am more than happy to help make a transfer!

best,

Jeff

On Monday, September 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Steve Roti wrote:

Jeff,

I'm
hosting the CPC website on my GoDaddy account. I've hosted many websites there
for many years and this is the first significant outage. I realize some people
don't like GoDaddy, but the same can be said about many other hosts as well.

Steve

CC: cpcl@googlegroups.com

From: j...@pacskyways.com

Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:45:59 -0700

To: stever...@hotmail.com

Godaddy
is a scummy slime ball company. I would be thrilled to help you migrate the
site to non-slime balls.

Are
we hosting the actual pages with them or just using them for name registration?

Sent from my mobile

On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Steve Roti <stever...@hotmail.com> wrote:

FYI,
the CPC website is down due to the attack on GoDaddy servers.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-o...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-d...


 
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Kevin Lee/ Thermal Tracker Paragliding  
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From: "Kevin Lee/ Thermal Tracker Paragliding" <ke...@thermaltracker.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:17:22 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Morals aside, Godaddy did not play it cool when I tried to transfer my
domain, similar to this bloggers issue (in direct violation of the ICANN's
rules on domain transfers:
http://www.yproxy.com/blog/godaddy-violates-icann-policy-with-60-day-...
and many, many others:
https://www.google.com/search?q=denying+a+domain+name+transfer+reques...

I'm sure they've served many well, but after spending hours on the phone
and finally countering with complaints filed with the ICANN to get my
domain transferred, I'll opt out on their services in the future... forever.

Kevin

Thermal Tracker Paragliding
Instruction Sales Tours
6370 Hwy. 66
Ashland, Oregon 97520

541-890-7142
email: i...@thermaltracker.com
Website: www.thermaltracker.com


 
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Glen Baker  
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From: Glen Baker <g...@coakley-baker.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:18:13 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: CPC: CPC website down

Hmm...I've used godaddy for DNS services for years (not hosting, just DNS).
I've found them to be far more reliable and much more reasonably priced
than the other providers I've used. I didn't realize that I was should be
doing background checks on the company executives when I was choosing a
provider.

Dang, now I've just got to empty the laundry basket:

   - I use godaddy.
   - I eat meat (but I only eat vegetarian cows)
   - I drink coffee without checking on its provenance.
   - I have gotten lucky a time or two while paragliding.

However:

   - I keep my reserve pack up-to-date.
   - If I bake chocolate chip cookies I share.
   - I've been known to provide beer in the LZ to those in need.

Hopefully I'm close to balancing out.

..glen


 
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:07:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: CPC website down


 
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