On 9/25/07, JerKart <jerk...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Have you had a chance to work on CoyMon or integrating Netflow into > Zenoss?
A while back, I did have some time to work on CoyMon. Sadly, the original Plone code was so out of date with current Plone that the level of effort for a "quick fix" of getting it running actually involved a pretty serious audit and overhaul.
I'm not contracting for Zenoss anymore, either (I'm actually working for the guys that created Twisted Python, which is used in both CoyMon and Zenoss). I tried a couple times to advocate Netflow integration into Zenoss (as did several other community members), but it just wasn't high enough on their list of priorities. Not sure what their plans are now, but I haven't heard anything about Netflow from them in over a year.
Working on CoyMon is still on my wishlist, but it's the same ol' open source dev story: most of my time goes to the code that pays the bills. I'd like to spend more time on it, but I just don't know when that will be :-( I think about it all the time, and have a whole slew of new ideas, but I refrain from posting them to the list, since previous posts of that sort haven't produced anything but disappointment for you guys.
One sliver of hope is that Divmod is a product-oriented company: we've got several commercial apps and a new Web 2.0 social networking app currently hovering towards beta. I've already talked to team leaders about AJAX/COMET-enabled sys/network admin app ideas.
On that note, if we did re-package CoyMon as an AJAX/COMET app, we'd want to make it light-weight with a few important target features -- no bloat, no scope creep (so we could get it out the door). That being said, what would be your top set of features? What would it absolutely have to do in order for you to use it and love it?
we were using JKFlow previously and we really liked the ability to customize and graph on the fly. The best features were allowing the inclusion/exclusion of any port and how it differentiated directions (outbound flows graphed below 0 on the x axis and inbound above), it also allowed for selection of which devices (flows) you wanted to include. The interface was very clunky and unfriendly, and I don't remember there being a static "last day" style page for all flows. Our favorite tool at this time is cacti, my boss really likes being able to click to select time spans, and the network management team likes the trees to be able to track things important to whatever project we are working on.
So to go with bullet points: Need: - Flexibility of JKFlow - Usability of Cacti - Ability to graph based on # of connections or bits xfered Want: - Ability to choose which interface of the router to see the flow on - Alerting based on # of connections per host per time period or bandwidth utilized
On Sep 25, 12:27 pm, "Duncan McGreggor" <duncan.mcgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/25/07, JerKart <jerk...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > Have you had a chance to work on CoyMon or integrating Netflow into > > Zenoss?
> A while back, I did have some time to work on CoyMon. Sadly, the > original Plone code was so out of date with current Plone that the > level of effort for a "quick fix" of getting it running actually > involved a pretty serious audit and overhaul.
> I'm not contracting for Zenoss anymore, either (I'm actually working > for the guys that created Twisted Python, which is used in both CoyMon > and Zenoss). I tried a couple times to advocate Netflow integration > into Zenoss (as did several other community members), but it just > wasn't high enough on their list of priorities. Not sure what their > plans are now, but I haven't heard anything about Netflow from them in > over a year.
> Working on CoyMon is still on my wishlist, but it's the same ol' open > source dev story: most of my time goes to the code that pays the > bills. I'd like to spend more time on it, but I just don't know when > that will be :-( I think about it all the time, and have a whole slew > of new ideas, but I refrain from posting them to the list, since > previous posts of that sort haven't produced anything but > disappointment for you guys.
> One sliver of hope is that Divmod is a product-oriented company: we've > got several commercial apps and a new Web 2.0 social networking app > currently hovering towards beta. I've already talked to team leaders > about AJAX/COMET-enabled sys/network admin app ideas.
> On that note, if we did re-package CoyMon as an AJAX/COMET app, we'd > want to make it light-weight with a few important target features -- > no bloat, no scope creep (so we could get it out the door). That being > said, what would be your top set of features? What would it absolutely > have to do in order for you to use it and love it?
we were using JKFlow previously and we really liked the ability to customize and graph on the fly. The best features were allowing the inclusion/exclusion of any port and how it differentiated directions (outbound flows graphed below 0 on the x axis and inbound above), it also allowed for selection of which devices (flows) you wanted to include. The interface was very clunky and unfriendly, and I don't remember there being a static "last day" style page for all flows. Our favorite tool at this time is cacti, my boss really likes being able to click to select time spans, and the network management team likes the trees to be able to track things important to whatever project we are working on.
So to go with bullet points: Need: - Flexibility of JKFlow - Usability of Cacti - Ability to graph based on # of connections or bits xfered Want: - Ability to choose which interface of the router to see the flow on - Alerting based on # of connections per host per time period or bandwidth utilized
On Sep 25, 12:27 pm, "Duncan McGreggor" <duncan.mcgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/25/07, JerKart <jerk...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > Have you had a chance to work on CoyMon or integrating Netflow into > > Zenoss?
> A while back, I did have some time to work on CoyMon. Sadly, the > original Plone code was so out of date with current Plone that the > level of effort for a "quick fix" of getting it running actually > involved a pretty serious audit and overhaul.
> I'm not contracting for Zenoss anymore, either (I'm actually working > for the guys that created Twisted Python, which is used in both CoyMon > and Zenoss). I tried a couple times to advocate Netflow integration > into Zenoss (as did several other community members), but it just > wasn't high enough on their list of priorities. Not sure what their > plans are now, but I haven't heard anything about Netflow from them in > over a year.
> Working on CoyMon is still on my wishlist, but it's the same ol' open > source dev story: most of my time goes to the code that pays the > bills. I'd like to spend more time on it, but I just don't know when > that will be :-( I think about it all the time, and have a whole slew > of new ideas, but I refrain from posting them to the list, since > previous posts of that sort haven't produced anything but > disappointment for you guys.
> One sliver of hope is that Divmod is a product-oriented company: we've > got several commercial apps and a new Web 2.0 social networking app > currently hovering towards beta. I've already talked to team leaders > about AJAX/COMET-enabled sys/network admin app ideas.
> On that note, if we did re-package CoyMon as an AJAX/COMET app, we'd > want to make it light-weight with a few important target features -- > no bloat, no scope creep (so we could get it out the door). That being > said, what would be your top set of features? What would it absolutely > have to do in order for you to use it and love it?