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Tony Bacigalupo  
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 More options Oct 24 2012, 2:58 pm
From: Tony Bacigalupo <t...@nwc.co>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:58:05 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 24 2012 2:58 pm
Subject: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Howdy coworking people!

One day, I was talking to a very good friend of mine, who was regaling with
me with tales of her struggles to find good work. This friend of mine is
brilliant. She's a fantastic person. And, like so many people, she's being
utterly chewed up by our nation's job crisis and this feeling like she has
no control over her own destiny.

It got me angry. I spend every day working alongside people who are highly
empowered and living life on their terms, and many of them aren't doing
anything so complicated or specialized that my friend or lots of other
people couldn't be doing something similar. Yet, here I was, talking to
this good friend of mine, who wanted me to help her figure out how to get
someone to hire her for a job that she didn't even want.

She's too good for that. So many of us are. This is stupid.

Long story short, while talking to her, I had a few beers and created this:
http://nwc.co/letsfixthestupidjobcrisis

Here's why I'm telling you all about this: In just a few years, our
coworking communities have risen from obscurity to constitute what is today
a global network of local centers where people gather to help each other
work for themselves. We're only just starting to realize the sheer
potential of that.

I believe that we collectively constitute the foundation for the solution
to our planet's economic challenges.

Our spaces can be not just places for people who have already figured out
how to work for themselves, but also crucial entry points for people who
seek to join our ranks. We give them a unique opportunity to be exposed to
a world they might never otherwise have seen, and to find people to help
them figure out how to join our ranks.

We've been supporting the needs of the growing independent workforce
implicitly in everything we do, but I'm curious to see what kind of damage
we could do if we made this an explicit part of our agenda. Not just to do
what we do, but to do what we do with a shared ambition help more people
work for themselves.

I care so much about coworking because it represents our best shot at
fundamentally rethinking and repairing our badly broken relationship with
our work.

Have any of you out there been thinking something similar? I'm serious
about this. I want to talk about real ways we can do things to put a
serious dent in the global job crisis and get a lot of people back to work.

Who's with me?

Cheers,
Tony Bacigalupo
New Work City

PS - I realize the presentation I made is largely US-centric, but the
general trends are largely global. If you've got a perspective to share
from a different socioeconomic situation, I'd love to hear it!


 
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Miles Fidelman  
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 More options Oct 24 2012, 4:09 pm
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:09:42 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 24 2012 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Tony Bacigalupo wrote:

> Long story short, while talking to her, I had a few beers and created
> this: http://nwc.co/letsfixthestupidjobcrisis

<snip>
> Have any of you out there been thinking something similar? I'm serious
> about this. I want to talk about real ways we can do things to put a
> serious dent in the global job crisis and get a lot of people back to
> work.

Sounds great, but begs a key problem - what we really need is demand.  
Between a stalled economy, and increased productivity over the years
(including automation and off-shoring), we kind of need to prime the
pump somehow.

Which kind of suggests that marketing and sales are a key part of the
mix.  Just like the "move your money" campaign has been shifting a lot
of customers from large banks to credit unions and local banks, how
about a "move your business" campaign, to move purchasing from
traditional businesses, to our kinds of businesses.

Miles Fidelman

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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra


 
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Joel Dullroy  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 4:57 am
From: Joel Dullroy <j...@deskwanted.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:57:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 4:57 am
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

*"I'm curious to see what kind of damage we could do if we made this an
explicit part of our agenda. Not just to do what we do, but to do what we
do with a shared ambition help more people work for themselves."*

Tony, this is exactly the question I want to ask the coworking community!

I also believe there is a huge role for coworking space to play in what I
call the freelancer rights movement. Coworking spaces can be:

- The gathering points for independent people to find a shared identity
- The information distribution points for sending out important messages
and starting campaigns
- Nodes in a network of independent communities, bound by mutual economic
and social interest

BUT....
Coworking space managers also have a lot of other jobs to do! They have to
pay the rent and worry about filling their desks, connecting the wifi and
selling coffee. Are they ready and willing to take on an extra job --- a
quasi-political role of organizing independent workers to fight for their
rights and build new community structures?

I honestly want to know! Are coworking space managers up for this extra job?

By the way, I talk more about how coworking spaces can play a major role in
the freelance rights movement in this short
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAsULd8q8yk

Joel
PS: I've recently helped form the Verband der Gründer und Selbständigen
Deutschland, Germany's freelance rights group


 
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Sabrina  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 5:59 am
From: Sabrina <sabrina.s.sim...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:59:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 5:59 am
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Hi Tony,

I love your presentation and ideas. The reason I have been pursuing
starting up a coworking community in my new home in England (I’m from the
US) is that there isn’t a coworking community here yet, and like many
places in England (OK, the world) the economy has taken its toll, and loads
of hugely creative and talented people are underemployed at best. To me,
developing a coworking community is exactly the right way to self-help our
way back to a healthy, if not vibrant economy. Even better, it is something
that I know I can do to help us all move in that direction. Because
successful coworking focuses on community, it fosters pride in our unique
‘place’, and ourselves, and that pride inspires confidence. Who doesn’t
love to be around other confident people who are excited about their work
and community?

So I agree with your idea that we can and should just carry on ourselves,
and I agree that coworking is a brilliant vehicle to use to move forward.
Miles, I love the ‘move your business idea’.  Steve King mentioned in his
blog recently how larger businesses are recognizing their future growth may
lie in sales to smaller rather than larger businesses
(http://www.smallbizlabs.com/2012/09/why-everyone-wants-small-business...).
Maybe we can encourage a similar trend in growth that comes from smaller
businesses supporting each other, including our micro-businesses, in our
own communities.
Sabrina Simpson
Plymouth Cowork


 
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Alex Hillman  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 9:15 am
From: Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:15:13 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

> They have to pay the rent and worry about filling their desks, connecting the wifi and selling coffee.

Delegation, baby. Delegation.  

If you're more than a year into running your coworking space and you're still the only person doing these things (I'm not just talking about hired staff), you're right - there's no way you have the bandwidth to take on a role like this.  

But I'd argue that if you're more than a year into running your coworking space and you're still the only person doing these things (again, I'm not just talking about hired staff), there's a much deeper problem present.  

-Alex
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/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia
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Tony Bacigalupo  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 10:54 am
From: Tony Bacigalupo <t...@nwc.co>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:51:34 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 10:51 am
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Miles, fair points-- there are obviously huge forces at work when we talk
about jobs and the global economy. I'm interested in focusing on that which
we can do right now to help move things forward. Perhaps we can't
singlehandedly fix everything, but I'm betting we can put a serious dent in
things.

Joel, awesome. I'd posit that coworking space owners, simply by
internalizing this perspective, can use it to guide the decisions they make
about how they manage their spaces and the programming that takes place in
them. If a space owner happens to also be interested in organizing
something around this topic, great-- but they should also be up for
accommodating others who'd be interested in doing the same.

There are a lot of ways of looking at this-- part of why I'm sharing this
now is to explore all the different ways we might approach the issue.

Sabrina, thanks! Let's keep the conversation rolling :)

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Alex Hillman
<dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>wrote:


 
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Glen Ferguson  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 12:03 pm
From: Glen Ferguson <glenf...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:03:14 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Tony, your post yesterday was strangely prescient. Walking home  Tuesday
night, I had a conversation with a young homeless woman I chat with most
mornings. I suspected, but didn't know for sure until that night what her
situation was. She had checked out a Cowork Frederick flyer and wanted to
confirm she understood what coworking is. She just found out that with
winter coming, she's not getting a spot in any of the shelters in town.
She's also resigned herself to the situation that no business is willing to
hire her, so she's going to have to find a way to make money on her own,
and could she join us (and pay, btw) so she'd have a real workplace.

Now, I don't know if she's going to follow through with this, or if the
methods she used a few years ago to make money online are still viable
today, but I know if she's going to make an honest effort to be
self-employed, I'm going to share some books, knowledge and encouragement
and we'll see where it goes from there.

Thanks for making me feel like I'm not a lone idealist.

Glen


 
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Tony Bacigalupo  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 12:05 pm
From: Tony Bacigalupo <t...@nwc.co>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:05:01 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Glen, that's a fantastic story. Can you please keep me/us in the loop? I'd
love to highlight the stories of people who are working to become
self-sufficient as examples for others.


 
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Alex Hillman  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 12:12 pm
From: Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:12:04 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Glen, this story is remarkable and makes me so hopeful.  

Thank you for sharing, and please keep us posted on how it goes.  

--
/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia
building a community? http://masterclass.indyhall.org


 
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Peggy  
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 More options Oct 25 2012, 3:16 pm
From: Peggy <ope...@cruzio.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 25 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Tony, this slideshow is great and illustrates the real evolution in our
national economy that coworking is a part of.

To get real innovation we have to rely on smaller and more flexible
organizations. Coworking feeds that environment. We need more understanding
and participation from our communities (government, Chambers of Commerce,
etc) and your slideshow conveys the issue plainly and succinctly. I know
I'll be sending it out. Thank you!

--Peggy Dolgenos
Cruzioworks
Santa Cruz, California


 
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Customer Service  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 3:00 pm
From: Customer Service <citizensp...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:00:23 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 3:00 pm
Subject: RE: [Coworking] Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Sounds like a plan Tony, count us in!

Citizen Space
Direct: 415-501-9155
Skype: citizenspace
http://www.citizenspace.us <blocked::http://www.citizenspace.us/>  
Twitter: http://twitter.com/citizenspace
<blocked::http://twitter.com/citizenspace>  
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/citizenspace
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"A Nicer Place to Work"

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From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tony Bacigalupo
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:58 AM
To: coworking
Subject: [Coworking] Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Howdy coworking people!

One day, I was talking to a very good friend of mine, who was regaling with
me with tales of her struggles to find good work. This friend of mine is
brilliant. She's a fantastic person. And, like so many people, she's being
utterly chewed up by our nation's job crisis and this feeling like she has
no control over her own destiny.

It got me angry. I spend every day working alongside people who are highly
empowered and living life on their terms, and many of them aren't doing
anything so complicated or specialized that my friend or lots of other
people couldn't be doing something similar. Yet, here I was, talking to this
good friend of mine, who wanted me to help her figure out how to get someone
to hire her for a job that she didn't even want.

She's too good for that. So many of us are. This is stupid.

Long story short, while talking to her, I had a few beers and created this:
http://nwc.co/letsfixthestupidjobcrisis

Here's why I'm telling you all about this: In just a few years, our
coworking communities have risen from obscurity to constitute what is today
a global network of local centers where people gather to help each other
work for themselves. We're only just starting to realize the sheer potential
of that.

I believe that we collectively constitute the foundation for the solution to
our planet's economic challenges.

Our spaces can be not just places for people who have already figured out
how to work for themselves, but also crucial entry points for people who
seek to join our ranks. We give them a unique opportunity to be exposed to a
world they might never otherwise have seen, and to find people to help them
figure out how to join our ranks.

We've been supporting the needs of the growing independent workforce
implicitly in everything we do, but I'm curious to see what kind of damage
we could do if we made this an explicit part of our agenda. Not just to do
what we do, but to do what we do with a shared ambition help more people
work for themselves.

I care so much about coworking because it represents our best shot at
fundamentally rethinking and repairing our badly broken relationship with
our work.

Have any of you out there been thinking something similar? I'm serious about
this. I want to talk about real ways we can do things to put a serious dent
in the global job crisis and get a lot of people back to work.

Who's with me?

Cheers,
Tony Bacigalupo
New Work City

PS - I realize the presentation I made is largely US-centric, but the
general trends are largely global. If you've got a perspective to share from
a different socioeconomic situation, I'd love to hear it!

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Jacob Sayles  
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 More options Oct 29 2012, 3:08 pm
From: Jacob Sayles <ja...@officenomads.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:08:17 -0700
Local: Mon, Oct 29 2012 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

We threw this out to our members and we are going to get together on
Thursday (our 5th birthday!) to discuss the topic.  I'd love to hear about
how other spaces are getting involved.

Jacob

---
Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
http://www.officenomads.com -  (206) 323-6500

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Nicolas Bergé  
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 More options Oct 30 2012, 6:59 am
From: Nicolas Bergé <n.be...@usat.fr>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:59:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 30 2012 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Tony, I'm with you 200 %.

We should be prepared for the days coworking will be an industry.
Our members and the people we meet everyday in our coworking spaces get the
"just (f*****g) do it" mantra. But what about the others. I've met tons of
people - and some are good friends - to whom the "just do it" doesn't work
though they frequently address me their entrepreneurial projects. They want
to create but the spark is missing somehow.

So we have this first.
Then we have what some of us called the "we work in..." spirit which is
epitomized by these community guides of people gathering on this sole idea
that they are proud to live and work in their city and they care about its
economic outcome (we have one in Nice, "inspired by Philly", thank's again
Alex). Which means that they could embrace whatever is possible to "fix the
stupid job crisis themselves".

Starting with this, and with a growing understanding of our national and
local environment, we decided to join forces in the French Riviera. We
decided to build an annual program which goal is **Citizen Innovation**.
Some have the ideas, brilliant ideas to improve the quality of life in
their city. Some have the talent to put these ideas into motion. We just
have to allow these two groups to meet and to work together : this is the
spark. This program is based on civic actions. It is also based on
participatory opportunities : every concerned citizen of Nice will be given
the chance to participate to something big, good and useful for the city
they love. And everyone is in the thread : local gov., associations,
private companies. If it allows some to "just do it", then I'll be glad. We
all will be glad, won't we ?

I will talk about this in Paris so let's catch up, Tony, and the others.
Coworking, today, is the catalyst.
Cheers

Nicolas Bergé
Les Satellites


 
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Deborah Reese  
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 More options Nov 2 2012, 1:39 pm
From: Deborah Reese <debo...@deborahreese.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Tony and everyone,

This is awesome. This is right in alignment with a flurry of activity
that’s happening here at Convivium: People are coming to join our coworking
space because they just quit their “day jobs” and are now pursuing their
dream of starting their own solopreneurship. They know that they have to
become experts at marketing themselves on the internet, and are struggling
to learn how to do that. Our one internet marketing professional member is
swamped with work already from her out-of-state clients, and wants to farm
out some of the easier/more tedious work to other people who are beginners
in the field, and pay them a lower rate in exchange for her
teaching/mentoring.

So we’ve started an internship program to fulfill this need, and are
quickly finding out that our other members and even people who are totally
outside our community are interested in hiring our interns to do some of
their internet marketing tasks. Some of them are aware they could hire a
virtual assistant online to do this work, but don’t feel comfortable giving
the work to a stranger who may be in another country – they’d rather hire
somebody local that they can meet and talk to in person.

I’m starting to get the feeling this could be BIG. We could become a
connection hub for freelancers/aspiring freelancers and people looking to
hire them. We could really help our members who are not experts in internet
marketing focus on what they’re really great at and grow their businesses.

And although internet marketing seems to be the biggest demand right now
(at least in my community), I can easily see this applying to other needs
such as billing/accounting and any other area that many new independents
are inexperienced.

I agree that there are all kinds of potential issues from liability to how
the coworking space manages/facilitates this and what makes it worth it
financially to the coworking space. But I’m certainly willing to test this
idea and participate in conversations with other Catalysts who are trying
it!

Deborah Reese

Catalyst, Convivium Coworking

Albuquerque, NM


 
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Tony Bacigalupo  
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 More options Nov 3 2012, 2:57 am
From: Tony Bacigalupo <t...@nwc.co>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 02:57:05 -0400
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2012 2:57 am
Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Deborah, that's fantastic. It's a perfect example of the kind of maturation
that's taking place in coworking spaces right now. We've always been great
places for people to build their businesses, but to date that's largely
been seen as the serendipitous side effect. Now, we're designing for these
sorts of benefits and optimizing for them.

Going solo is a hell of a lot easier if you're a member of a coworking
space. The more we position ourselves not just as great places to work for
those who already work from home, but as great places for people to develop
successful independent careers, the better off everyone will be.

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Tonyswaby  
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 More options Nov 3 2012, 6:03 am
From: Tonyswaby <t...@waspmedia.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 03:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2012 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

This is very inspiring Tony.

My experience of coworking is limited to a bunch of programmers sat in a
large room with their laptops still communicating via twitter etc.

This concept and the other ideas you put forward make the whole thing more
workable.


 
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Michael Rhodes  
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:09:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 9 2012 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

I have been saying this for years. Forget Occupy demanding jobs. Go out and
create them. And unions would be far more effective buying controlling
shares of the companies on behalf of the workers, so that workers get their
share of the profits and can eventually own all the public corporations
themselves.


 
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Jeannine  
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 10:47 am
Subject: Re: Let's fix the stupid job crisis ourselves

Hey. Tony and all,

If anybody were, say, moved to put this presentation on the Coworking
Marketplac<http://wiki.coworking.com/w/page/60672120/Coworking%20Marketplace>e,
say, for instance, under collaborations, I would be thrille- er, think that
was very appropriate.  :-)

Jeannine


 
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