Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions with space owners who would like to mentor?
Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such > spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating > such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions with > space owners who would like to mentor?
Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all like to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, offices are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
Jerome
______________
BLANKSPACES
"work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
323.330.9505 (office)
On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
> Will Hurd
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions with space owners who would like to mentor?
And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool
church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How
you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with
that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all like
> to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, offices
> are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they
> typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
> Jerome
> ______________
> BLANKSPACES
> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
> 323.330.9505 (office)
> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> SH,
> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code
> of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the
> space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for
> performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say.
> Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
> Will Hurd
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such
>> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating
>> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions
>> with space owners who would like to mentor?
Thanks Will. I'm in the San Jose area. I'm trying to locate available rental properties online and am a bit lost on the zoning. Essentially, I'd like to operate a co-work space but at the same time would like to open it up for startup related events like hackathons, barcamps etc. Not quite sure if those require "assembly" zones.
On Monday, October 22, 2012 1:52:11 AM UTC-7, Will Hurd wrote:
> SH,
> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code > of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the > space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for > performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. > Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
> Will Hurd
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such >> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating >> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions >> with space owners who would like to mentor?
I very much encountered this situation as well and it beats me. A property management I ran into would let theirs sit idle rather than lease it out for co-working. :(
On Monday, October 22, 2012 7:01:41 AM UTC-7, Jerome wrote:
> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all like > to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, offices > are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they > typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
> Jerome > ______________ > BLANKSPACES > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 > 323.330.9505 (office)
> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
> SH,
> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code > of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the > space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for > performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. > Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
> Will Hurd
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such >> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating >> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions >> with space owners who would like to mentor?
me too..which brings me back to my original question, is there an easier way to locate a property that allows running a co-work space? Thanks for all your inputs.
On Monday, October 22, 2012 11:24:37 AM UTC-7, Jacob Sayles wrote:
> And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool > church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How > you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with > that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all like >> to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, offices >> are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they >> typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
>> Jerome >> ______________ >> BLANKSPACES >> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>> www.blankspaces.com >> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >> 323.330.9505 (office)
>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> wrote:
>> SH,
>> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code >> of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the >> space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for >> performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
>> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. >> Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
>> Will Hurd
>> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such >>> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating >>> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions >>> with space owners who would like to mentor?
Assembly is an occupancy use, not a "zoning" issue.
Once you have a "high density" use, then assembly CAN be calculated, but it's up the architect the Building Dept who determine that. For example, restaurants typically are assembly, although on the lighter side than, say, a concert hall.
Jerome
______________
BLANKSPACES
"work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
www.blankspaces.com 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
323.330.9505 (office)
On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:44 PM, SH <evergreenfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Will. I'm in the San Jose area.
> I'm trying to locate available rental properties online and am a bit lost on the zoning. Essentially, I'd like to operate a co-work space but at the same time would like to open it up for startup related events like hackathons, barcamps etc. Not quite sure if those require "assembly" zones.
> Regards,
> SH
> On Monday, October 22, 2012 1:52:11 AM UTC-7, Will Hurd wrote:
> SH,
> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
> Will Hurd
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions with space owners who would like to mentor?
> me too..which brings me back to my original question, is there an easier way to locate a property that allows running a co-work space?
> Thanks for all your inputs.
> Regards,
> SH
> On Monday, October 22, 2012 11:24:37 AM UTC-7, Jacob Sayles wrote:
> And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> wrote:
> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all like to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, offices are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
> Jerome
> ______________
> BLANKSPACES
> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
> 323.330.9505 (office)
> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> SH,
>> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
>> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
>> Will Hurd
>> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions with space owners who would like to mentor?
I've found that the local zoning office (here in Oakland, CA) very helpful
when I was trying to figure out if I could run my coworking space in the
storefront I had selected. They asked a few questions about what we were
doing (meetings, workshops, office work, technology services) and not doing
(assembling computers, lasercutting, manufacturing) and were able to
quickly tell me answers.
It's best if you go to them with a list of properties so you can get your
answers all at once.
Cheers,
Anca.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
> Look for zoning that is specifically labelled "commercial/office" or
> similar. Anything outside of that is a gray area.
> Jerome
> ______________
> BLANKSPACES
> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
> 323.330.9505 (office)
> On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, SH <evergreenfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> me too..which brings me back to my original question, is there an easier
> way to locate a property that allows running a co-work space?
> Thanks for all your inputs.
> Regards,
> SH
> On Monday, October 22, 2012 11:24:37 AM UTC-7, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>> And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool
>> church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How
>> you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with
>> that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
>>> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all
>>> like to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular,
>>> offices are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they
>>> typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
>>> Jerome
>>> ______________
>>> BLANKSPACES
>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>>> www.blankspaces.com >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036
>>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> SH,
>>> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning
>>> code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play
>>> when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for
>>> performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
>>> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say.
>>> Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
>>> Will Hurd
>>> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>>>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>>>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such
>>>> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating
>>>> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>>>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions
>>>> with space owners who would like to mentor?
On Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:34:33 PM UTC-7, Jerome wrote:
> Look for zoning that is specifically labelled "commercial/office" or > similar. Anything outside of that is a gray area.
> Jerome > ______________ > BLANKSPACES > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
> www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 > 323.330.9505 (office)
> On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, SH <evergre...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote:
> me too..which brings me back to my original question, is there an easier > way to locate a property that allows running a co-work space? > Thanks for all your inputs.
> Regards, > SH
> On Monday, October 22, 2012 11:24:37 AM UTC-7, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>> And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool >> church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How >> you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with >> that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
>>> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all >>> like to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, >>> offices are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they >>> typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
>>> Jerome >>> ______________ >>> BLANKSPACES >>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>>> www.blankspaces.com >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> SH,
>>> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning >>> code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play >>> when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for >>> performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
>>> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. >>> Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
>>> Will Hurd
>>> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>>>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>>>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand such >>>> spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about locating >>>> such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>>>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions >>>> with space owners who would like to mentor?
On Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:16:02 PM UTC-7, Anca Mosoiu wrote:
> I've found that the local zoning office (here in Oakland, CA) very helpful > when I was trying to figure out if I could run my coworking space in the > storefront I had selected. They asked a few questions about what we were > doing (meetings, workshops, office work, technology services) and not doing > (assembling computers, lasercutting, manufacturing) and were able to > quickly tell me answers.
> It's best if you go to them with a list of properties so you can get your > answers all at once.
> Cheers,
> Anca.
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Look for zoning that is specifically labelled "commercial/office" or >> similar. Anything outside of that is a gray area.
>> Jerome >> ______________ >> BLANKSPACES >> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>> www.blankspaces.com >> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >> 323.330.9505 (office)
>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, SH <evergre...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> wrote:
>> me too..which brings me back to my original question, is there an easier >> way to locate a property that allows running a co-work space? >> Thanks for all your inputs.
>> Regards, >> SH
>> On Monday, October 22, 2012 11:24:37 AM UTC-7, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>>> And you can't open a space in single family zoning. We looked at a cool >>> church a long time ago but turns out churches are single family too. How >>> you get anything other then a church to fit into such a large space with >>> that kind of zoning limits is beyond me.
>>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com>wrote:
>>>> Sorry, but, not every zoning area wants offices, as much as we'd all >>>> like to think that everyone loves coworking [offices]. In particular, >>>> offices are not always welcome in ground floor, retail spaces because they >>>> typically don't contribute to all-day, vibrant foot traffic.
>>>> Jerome >>>> ______________ >>>> BLANKSPACES >>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself"
>>>> www.blankspaces.com >>>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>>> 323.330.9505 (office)
>>>> On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Will <epee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> SH,
>>>> Coworking spaces should be allowable as a Business use in the zoning >>>> code of whatever area you are looking at. Assembly only comes into play >>>> when the space is specifically for gathering groups of people together for >>>> performances or events. Incidental gatherings aren't really considered.
>>>> Disclaimer: I have no idea where you are and what the local codes say. >>>> Check with an architect in your area for an opinion too.
>>>> Will Hurd
>>>> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:47:55 PM UTC-4, SH wrote:
>>>>> Just joined the group. Thanks for all the help being provided here.
>>>>> I'm working my way towards opening a space. From what I understand >>>>> such spaces have to be zoned for assembly usage. How does one go about >>>>> locating such rentals in Bay Area/Silicon Valley?
>>>>> Also, are there any meetups in the area which facilitate interactions >>>>> with space owners who would like to mentor?
