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TechVenue.com
Dec 21, 2010, 5:33:49 PM12/21/10
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Hi All,
Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
Felicity at http://www.cubesandcrayons.com has shared in a few threads
already, and has a great thing going - I hope it spreads.
If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
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Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
Felicity at http://www.cubesandcrayons.com has shared in a few threads
already, and has a great thing going - I hope it spreads.
If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
--
Cheers,
David Flint, MPA
Founder, http://TechVenue.com
Since 1998, Your Venue for Business Technology Events and Networking
Email: D a v i d...@TechVenue.com
Phone: (312) 772-5631
Twitter: TechVenue
__________________________
autena
Dec 22, 2010, 7:25:59 AM12/22/10
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I agree, this is a critical issue for me. I am a lot of the home-
based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
coverage.
I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
"service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
drop off is limited to 2 hours.
I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
members think/do about this.
-A
On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhas shared in a few threads
based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
coverage.
I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
"service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
drop off is limited to 2 hours.
I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
members think/do about this.
-A
On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> already, and has a great thing going - I hope it spreads.
>
> If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
> plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
> therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
> piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
> dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
>
> For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
> spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> David Flint, MPA
> Founder,http://TechVenue.com
>
> If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
> plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
> therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
> piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
> dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
>
> For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
> spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> David Flint, MPA
Mark Gilbreath
Dec 22, 2010, 9:17:24 AM12/22/10
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Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008. This project was a part of a broad "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability. Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their only office.
Stuff to search on to find more info on this: almere, SWC, smart work center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected work
Mark Gilbreath
CEO/Founder
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Jeannine
Dec 22, 2010, 10:18:04 AM12/22/10
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I am currently in discussions with a day care here in the Netherlands,
probably they will just add us as a pickup/dropoff point -- the Dutch
day cares pick up the kids at school mostly, and for people who have
to get to work early they take them to school also. The sticking
point for them is the lack of regular pickup/drop off times. We may
just have to set some, though I would rather have it go a different
way. The other option of course is to just have some babysitters on
call, but that requires a level of screening and coordination I am not
sure I am willing to take on. If the space were a little bigger I
would offer it on site and just have sitters. But we are not so there
we are.
Jeannine
probably they will just add us as a pickup/dropoff point -- the Dutch
day cares pick up the kids at school mostly, and for people who have
to get to work early they take them to school also. The sticking
point for them is the lack of regular pickup/drop off times. We may
just have to set some, though I would rather have it go a different
way. The other option of course is to just have some babysitters on
call, but that requires a level of screening and coordination I am not
sure I am willing to take on. If the space were a little bigger I
would offer it on site and just have sitters. But we are not so there
we are.
Jeannine
On Dec 21, 11:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhas shared in a few threads
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> already, and has a great thing going - I hope it spreads.
>
> If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
> plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
> therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
> piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
> dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
>
> For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
> spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> David Flint, MPA
> Founder,http://TechVenue.com
>
> If this need is not considered to some degree in coworking business
> plans, I'm concerned this could be an obstacle to inclusion and
> therefore long term sustainability for coworking, as there's always a
> piece of the coworking pie that for ~18 years of their career have
> dependents. That's a huge chunk of prospective community members.
>
> For that matter, could childcare facility partnerships with coworking
> spaces be mutually beneficial if they are located in close proximity?
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
>
> David Flint, MPA
TechVenue.com
Dec 22, 2010, 10:22:18 AM12/22/10
to Coworking
Mark,
Thank you! This looks like a great system and again shows that we in
the USA have a lot to learn and adopt when it comes to sustainability
and work/life balance + valuing the whole family as a part of it all.
Looking forward to hearing more from others in the group -
Cheers,
David
Re:
On Dec 22, 8:17 am, Mark Gilbreath <mfgilbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008. This project was a part of a broad "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability. Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their only office.
>
> Stuff to search on to find more info on this: almere, SWC, smart work center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected work
>
> Mark Gilbreath
> CEO/Founder
> 208.720.8107
> m...@liquidspaceapp.com
Thank you! This looks like a great system and again shows that we in
the USA have a lot to learn and adopt when it comes to sustainability
and work/life balance + valuing the whole family as a part of it all.
Looking forward to hearing more from others in the group -
Cheers,
David
Re:
On Dec 22, 8:17 am, Mark Gilbreath <mfgilbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008. This project was a part of a broad "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability. Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their only office.
>
> Stuff to search on to find more info on this: almere, SWC, smart work center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected work
>
> Mark Gilbreath
> CEO/Founder
> 208.720.8107
>
> LiquidSpace(TM) - find a better space to work.
> We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share it with your colleagues. Visitwww.liquidspaceapp.comto learn more!
> LiquidSpace(TM) - find a better space to work.
>
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:25 AM, autena <aut...@evenconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I agree, this is a critical issue for me. I am a lot of the home-
> > based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
> > be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
> > coverage.
>
> > I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
> > "service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
> > drop off is limited to 2 hours.
> > I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
> > members think/do about this.
> > -A
>
> > On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
>
> >> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> >> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> >> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhasshared in a few threads
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:25 AM, autena <aut...@evenconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I agree, this is a critical issue for me. I am a lot of the home-
> > based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
> > be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
> > coverage.
>
> > I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
> > "service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
> > drop off is limited to 2 hours.
> > I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
> > members think/do about this.
> > -A
>
> > On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
>
> >> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> >> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
Jeannine
Dec 23, 2010, 4:04:02 AM12/23/10
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Well, essentially the Cisco model is on site child care, which they
also have in the US. Until October of this year, the Cisco centers
were essentially satellite offices for Cisco.
Part of the issue here in the Netherlands is that in many ways, the
whole society is built on the one-earner model, folks are rapidly
switching to the two-earner model but the institutions are mostly not
keeping up. Schools do not for instance typically have lunchrooms --
kids go home for lunch. And day care..well, when I came here six
years ago there was exactly one professional day care in this town of
50,000 souls. "Preschool" starts at 18 months to 2 years and is two
half days per week.
For another example, children with learning and other disabilities are
not integrated into the school system here, they go to different
schools which are regionally based, These kids are therefore bussed
via contract with taxi services -- picked up at the door and dropped
off at the door. Until this year this city (which provides the
service) refused to drop the kids off or pick them up anywhere other
than at one home address -- so not at day care, not at the sitter, and
god help you if you are, for example, divorced or otherwise not living
together.
So mothers with kids with learning disabilities are pretty much washed
up for working unless it's part time or self employment. Large
companies therefore find that solving the day care dilemma goes a long
way to attracting and keeping employees.
In many ways the Dutch do value work life balance more than Americans
do. But not in that way. I don't think we are likely to follow this
model in this area, as there are too many associated cultural
differences we would be unlikely to accept.
Jeannine
On Dec 22, 4:22 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Thank you! This looks like a great system and again shows that we in
> the USA have a lot to learn and adopt when it comes to sustainability
> and work/life balance + valuing the whole family as a part of it all.
>
> Looking forward to hearing more from others in the group -
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> Re:
>
> On Dec 22, 8:17 am, Mark Gilbreath <mfgilbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008. This project was a part of a broad "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability. Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their only office.
>
> > Stuff to search on to find more info on this: almere, SWC, smart work center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected work
>
> > Mark Gilbreath
> > CEO/Founder
> > 208.720.8107
> > m...@liquidspaceapp.com
>
> > LiquidSpace(TM) - find a better space to work.
> > We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share it with your colleagues. Visitwww.liquidspaceapp.comtolearn more!
also have in the US. Until October of this year, the Cisco centers
were essentially satellite offices for Cisco.
Part of the issue here in the Netherlands is that in many ways, the
whole society is built on the one-earner model, folks are rapidly
switching to the two-earner model but the institutions are mostly not
keeping up. Schools do not for instance typically have lunchrooms --
kids go home for lunch. And day care..well, when I came here six
years ago there was exactly one professional day care in this town of
50,000 souls. "Preschool" starts at 18 months to 2 years and is two
half days per week.
For another example, children with learning and other disabilities are
not integrated into the school system here, they go to different
schools which are regionally based, These kids are therefore bussed
via contract with taxi services -- picked up at the door and dropped
off at the door. Until this year this city (which provides the
service) refused to drop the kids off or pick them up anywhere other
than at one home address -- so not at day care, not at the sitter, and
god help you if you are, for example, divorced or otherwise not living
together.
So mothers with kids with learning disabilities are pretty much washed
up for working unless it's part time or self employment. Large
companies therefore find that solving the day care dilemma goes a long
way to attracting and keeping employees.
In many ways the Dutch do value work life balance more than Americans
do. But not in that way. I don't think we are likely to follow this
model in this area, as there are too many associated cultural
differences we would be unlikely to accept.
Jeannine
On Dec 22, 4:22 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Thank you! This looks like a great system and again shows that we in
> the USA have a lot to learn and adopt when it comes to sustainability
> and work/life balance + valuing the whole family as a part of it all.
>
> Looking forward to hearing more from others in the group -
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> Re:
>
> On Dec 22, 8:17 am, Mark Gilbreath <mfgilbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Onsight child care was a core element of the prototype "Smart Connected Workcenter" (SWC) that cisco developed and launched in Almere Netherlands (just outside Amsterdam) in 2008. This project was a part of a broad "Connected Urban Development" initiative that cisco developed, inspired by their involvement in the Clinton Global Inititive on sustainability. Much of what cisco demonstrated in this project (which has grown to a substantial network of locations in the Netherlands and inspired other projects around the globe) is relevant to coworking, including business models, public/private partnership models, space planning concepts, technology platforms (obviously, they want to promote their network, voice and video solutions), and service offerings...including child care. Their focus with the the SWC demonstration was enterprise customers, eg the IBM or HP employee who is looking for a more convenient, sustainable, productive place to work in lieu of the corporate office that may be further away (or as increasingly is the case at places like IBM, where 42% of their employees work remotely, the SWC becomes their only office.
>
> > Stuff to search on to find more info on this: almere, SWC, smart work center, CUD, connected urban development, bas boorsma, smart connected work
>
> > Mark Gilbreath
> > CEO/Founder
> > 208.720.8107
> > m...@liquidspaceapp.com
>
> > LiquidSpace(TM) - find a better space to work.
>
> > On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:25 AM, autena <aut...@evenconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > > I agree, this is a critical issue for me. I am a lot of the home-
> > > based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
> > > be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
> > > coverage.
>
> > > I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
> > > "service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
> > > drop off is limited to 2 hours.
> > > I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
> > > members think/do about this.
> > > -A
>
> > > On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi All,
>
> > >> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> > >> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
> > >> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhassharedin a few threads
> > On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:25 AM, autena <aut...@evenconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > > I agree, this is a critical issue for me. I am a lot of the home-
> > > based businesses and workers in my area are also parents that have to
> > > be with their kids after school, or when the don't have child care
> > > coverage.
>
> > > I am actively trying to recruit a partner that could have this as a
> > > "service-next-door". I belong to a Gym that has child care but the
> > > drop off is limited to 2 hours.
> > > I think this is a great discussion, would love to know what other
> > > members think/do about this.
> > > -A
>
> > > On Dec 21, 5:33 pm, "TechVenue.com" <techve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi All,
>
> > >> Does anyone have any data on generally what percentage of coworking
> > >> places offer any childcare inside or adjacent to the space?
>
maxthemonkey
Jan 5, 2011, 4:15:39 AM1/5/11
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thank you for bringing up this issue, which is absolutely key in my
point of view.
in the country I live in (italy) families struggle with babysitters
and grandparents to handles children after shooltime, I definitely
think all the time that coworking with childcare facilities would be
an excellent idea.
max
> > > >> Felicity athttp://www.cubesandcrayons.comhassharedina few threads
point of view.
in the country I live in (italy) families struggle with babysitters
and grandparents to handles children after shooltime, I definitely
think all the time that coworking with childcare facilities would be
an excellent idea.
max
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