Watercolor layer question..
Brian
Howdy! How do I keep Painter 7 from creating a new watercolor layer every
time I start painting with a watercolor tool?
Thanks,
-Corvus
FFFish
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:47:32 -0600, Brian <bigspot...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Howdy! How do I keep Painter 7 from creating a new watercolor layer every
> time I start painting with a watercolor tool?
watercolour brush. Otherwise Painter assumes you're starting a new layer
of watercolours.
Jinny Brown
In the Layers list, highlight the Water Color Layer you want to continue
painting on. Then Painter 7 won't create a new Water Color Layer.
Any time you choose a Water Color variant and begin to paint, if a Water
Color Layer is not already highlighted in the Layers list, Painter 7
automatically creates a new one. The same is true for Liquid Ink
variants and Liquid Ink Layers.
Happy Watercoloring!
Jinny Brown
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Mike
3/3/03 3:47 PM:
>
> Howdy! How do I keep Painter 7 from creating a new watercolor layer every
> time I start painting with a watercolor tool?
http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
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Brian
Um, thanks for the 'help' Mike. I think we all know about your watercolors
by now.
-Corvus
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in article 3e63e650_2@cnews, Brian at bigspot...@hotmail.com wrote on
3/3/03 3:47 PM:
>
> Howdy! How do I keep Painter 7 from creating a new watercolor layer every
> time I start painting with a watercolor tool?
http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
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Lex vd Oudeweetering
> Um, thanks for the 'help' Mike. I think we all know about your watercolors
> by now.
>
> -Corvus
Yes! Isn't Mike a big boy? He can turn any stupid photo in a stupid
watercolour.
'Oh, no, Lex!!!! You are very negative, that's a bad attitude!!!!!!"
'Let Mike show his nice pictures that should look like watercolours to all
the world, even if this is not asked for in a thread" 'Look at him he is
pleased to show them to all the big people"
'Please, give him a smile and a stroke him gently on the head, he still
needs it"
'It will make him grow a little!!!"
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Mike
lex.ill...@planet.nl wrote on 3/6/03 4:56 AM:
>
>> Um, thanks for the 'help' Mike. I think we all know about your watercolors
>> by now.
>>
>> -Corvus
>
> Yes! Isn't Mike a big boy? He can turn any stupid photo in a stupid
> watercolour.
> 'Oh, no, Lex!!!! You are very negative, that's a bad attitude!!!!!!"
> 'Let Mike show his nice pictures that should look like watercolours to all
> the world, even if this is not asked for in a thread" 'Look at him he is
> pleased to show them to all the big people"
> 'Please, give him a smile and a stroke him gently on the head, he still
> needs it"
> 'It will make him grow a little!!!"
It amuses me to write in newsgroups as I wish...
There is no other reason needed before I can post my links or messages. Did
you forget?
":^) ®
Watercolors... enjoy.
http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
":^) ®
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Michael Weber
[Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:43:09 -0800/Mike]
> It amuses me to write in newsgroups as I wish...
> There is no other reason needed before I can post my links or messages. Did
> you forget?
>
>
> Watercolors... enjoy.
>
> http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
>
> ":^) Ž
Your "Watercolor" pics can be done by one or two Photoshop filters
within a few seconds as well. And laying pics on a pattern like
your background image is not really an "artistic" work. So there,
whats the "art" in converting photos, mike?
regs
michael
(non-engl.)
Mike
web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 3:54 AM:
>
> [Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:43:09 -0800/Mike]
>> It amuses me to write in newsgroups as I wish...
>> There is no other reason needed before I can post my links or messages. Did
>> you forget?
>>
>> ":^) ®
>>
>> Watercolors... enjoy.
>>
>> http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
>>
>> ":^) ®
>
>
> Your "Watercolor" pics can be done by one or two Photoshop filters
> within a few seconds as well. And laying pics on a pattern like
> your background image is not really an "artistic" work. So there,
> whats the "art" in converting photos, mike?
Lets see you do what you suggest.
Michael Weber
[Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:13:51 -0800/Mike]
> >> ":^) Ž
> >>
> >> Watercolors... enjoy.
> >>
> >> http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
> >>
> >> ":^) Ž
> >
> >
> > Your "Watercolor" pics can be done by one or two Photoshop filters
> > within a few seconds as well. And laying pics on a pattern like
> > your background image is not really an "artistic" work. So there,
> > whats the "art" in converting photos, mike?
>
>
>
> Lets see you do what you suggest.
>
Uh? ok, Done. www.webbosom.online.de/Gal/temp.htm
Conversion was done in about 2 minutes with 1 dyn. layered
structure and 1 filter from the art-category.
(i sure dont want to compare painter with PS - i love painter - i
only asked you of what the "artistic" point of your watercolors is,
converting some photos).
regs
michael
Mike
web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 2:57 PM:
>
> [Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:13:51 -0800/Mike]
>>>> ":^) ®
>>>>
>>>> Watercolors... enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
>>>>
>>>> ":^) ®
>>>
>>>
>>> Your "Watercolor" pics can be done by one or two Photoshop filters
>>> within a few seconds as well. And laying pics on a pattern like
>>> your background image is not really an "artistic" work. So there,
>>> whats the "art" in converting photos, mike?
>>
>>
>>
>> Lets see you do what you suggest.
>>
>> ":^) ®
>
> Uh? ok, Done. www.webbosom.online.de/Gal/temp.htm
>
> Conversion was done in about 2 minutes with 1 dyn. layered
> structure and 1 filter from the art-category.
Whatever effect you were going for, it does not look like a watercolor. It
is easy to poke fun at what I am doing, but obviously you are not able to
duplicate it.
When I first offered the page for viewing, many people wanted to know how I
was doing the watercolor effect, now that they know that I am not going to
share the info, many people write that they can do it themselves, but none
of the images that I have seen even come close to what I am doing.
So ... you are free to make fun of what I am doing if you feel the need, and
you are free to think that you can do the watercolor effect just as well,
but I think you are in error in both cases.
":^) ®
http://www.artistmike.com/WatercolorArt/Watercolors1.html
":^) ®
>
> (i sure dont want to compare painter with PS - i love painter - i
> only asked you of what the "artistic" point of your watercolors is,
> converting some photos).
The art comes into the process all along the way. The computer is just the
tool, the digital camera is just the tool. There is no difference between a
computer and software and the watercolor brush and canvas.
None of those tools can generate an image without the human input.
":^) ®
I asked to see your effort at doing a watercolor, in my view you did not do
a watercolor image.
Michael Weber
[Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:27:43 -0800/Mike]
> > Conversion was done in about 2 minutes with 1 dyn. layered
> > structure and 1 filter from the art-category.
>
>
> Whatever effect you were going for, it does not look like a watercolor.
Play with the angle at 0 degree to eliminate the light thats
falling in and it will (lost the "inky" appearance)
> It
> is easy to poke fun at what I am doing, but obviously you are not able to
> duplicate it.
I didnt want to duplicate it. I just want to know what the big
advantage is to be able to colorize a bunch of photos by hand that
can be done by a filter.
> When I first offered the page for viewing, many people wanted to know how I
> was doing the watercolor effect, now that they know that I am not going to
> share the info, many people write that they can do it themselves, but none
> of the images that I have seen even come close to what I am doing.
There are thousends of people out asking others how to make a
imagemap, how to make a font, how to make a sky, how to make a
landscape, how to get in touch with Bob Ross, <insert anything>.
I also can wash my hands the way no other will ever be able to...
> None of those tools can generate an image without the human input.
Your statement is a bit senseless because there is no software out
that do anything without a human input.
At least a software can produce the same synthetic look as your
photos does. (i dont know of any artist who pushes out tons of pics
that looks like the same. I am lurking painter-related NGs for a
while and i often asked myself, waht the f* is he telling to the
world with dozens of pics that looks like a filter series)
regs
michael
Mike
web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 5:44 PM:
>> None of those tools can generate an image without the human input.
>
> Your statement is a bit senseless because there is no software out
> that do anything without a human input.
A watercolor brush is not going to draw a watercolor by itself. It takes an
artist to do it. Same with computers and software and photos... it all
takes a human to add the artistic touch to the process.
>
> (i dont know of any artist who pushes out tons of pics
> that looks like the same.
Artists go through periods of doing images that look similar, you just do
not know how artists work.
Mike
web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 7:27 PM:
>
> [Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:20:05 -0800/Mike]
>>
>> in article b4bleg...@webbosom.online.de, Michael Weber at
>> web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 5:44 PM:
>>
>>
>>>> None of those tools can generate an image without the human input.
>>>
>>> Your statement is a bit senseless because there is no software out
>>> that do anything without a human input.
>>
>> A watercolor brush is not going to draw a watercolor by itself.
>
> A watercolor brush actually draw watercolor as long as you dont dip
> it in milk.
So is that an admission that your question was answered and you now have
nothing to write in response?
Michael Weber
[Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:23:38 -0800/Mike]
>
> in article b4brg6...@webbosom.online.de, Michael Weber at
> web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 7:27 PM:
>
> >
> > [Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:20:05 -0800/Mike]
> >>
> >> in article b4bleg...@webbosom.online.de, Michael Weber at
> >> web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/7/03 5:44 PM:
> >>
> >>
> >>>> None of those tools can generate an image without the human input.
> >>>
> >>> Your statement is a bit senseless because there is no software out
> >>> that do anything without a human input.
> >>
> >> A watercolor brush is not going to draw a watercolor by itself.
> >> It takes an artist to do it.]
> >
> > A watercolor brush actually draw watercolor as long as you dont dip
> > it in milk.
>
>
> So is that an admission that your question was answered and you now have
> nothing to write in response?
*g* You didnt understand. All it takes to have a paint is a user, a
human, not an artist. Pushing cats into ugly looks is not the
advantage of beeing an artist. So i asked you for whats the point.
regs, lets end this
michael
Mike
web...@kaffeeschluerfer.com wrote on 3/8/03 4:09 AM:
>
> Pushing cats into ugly looks is not the
> advantage of beeing an artist. So i asked you for whats the point.
If you need a "point" for the production of art, I will supply one for you.
I enjoyed doing them, so there was no other reason needed.
If you choose to not enjoy the images, that is your choice.
KNPepper
Painter wrote:
> Just pick up your stylus, choose a basic media like charcoal
> and draw something on your tablet .... from scratch. You are
> either an artist, or you are filter-fiddler. It's as simple
> as that.
>
> [Attached: A beautiful rendition]
Kindly refrain from clouding the issue with real art, Sir or
Madam. The discussion is about how a non-artist can, with minimal
fuss, pass a photograph (or clipart) through a series of software
mutilations and offer the mangled remains as artistic expression.
The object of course is to elicit "Oooh, you're soooo talented"
from a parent or spouse. Beats skill, talent, or a degree in fine
arts any day.
Er...where might I see some more of your work?
K.N.Pepper
Painter
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>
> Er...where might I see some more of your work?
A portfolio will soon be available ... but this may not be a forum for
original illustration. ;)
Mike
on 3/11/03 8:48 AM:
> Er...where might I see some more of your work?
Take your pick...
http://www.artistmike.com/smallart.html
Mike
3/11/03 10:18 AM:
>
> "KNPepper" <KNPe...@EXTRAhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e6e0e64$1_3@cnews...
>
>>
>> Er...where might I see some more of your work?
>
> A portfolio will soon be available ...
Oh... too bad.
Brian
Ya know, this is just getting out of control. The original post that I wrote
was a TECHNICAL question about Painter, not about someone's personal work.
The last time I checked, this was a support forum for Painter questions, not
for "who does what sort of work', and for people to overly advertise. Yes
Mike, we've all seen your site and your site's address. If we want to see
more of your work, I think we could head there from time to time. I'm not
singling you out, though the original question had absolutely nothing to do
with your webpage, nor your work..
-Corvus
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in article 3e6e0e64$1_3@cnews, KNPepper at KNPe...@EXTRAhotmail.com wrote
on 3/11/03 8:48 AM:
> Er...where might I see some more of your work?
Take your pick...
http://www.artistmike.com/smallart.html
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Mike
in article 3e6e939b_2@cnews, Brian at bigspot...@hotmail.com wrote on
3/11/03 6:09 PM:
>
> Ya know, this is just getting out of control. The original post that I wrote
> was a TECHNICAL question about Painter, not about someone's personal work.
Threads very often "get out of control"... it is not that terrible. What
you asked at the start of the thread is over and done with, the thread has
moved on to other topics.
It is a natural occurance.
":^) ®
> The last time I checked, this was a support forum for Painter questions...
Newsgroups are not limited to one topic. You should know that.
":^) ®
> Yes Mike, we've all seen your site and your site's address. If we want to see
> more of your work, I think we could head there from time to time.
Just a reminder.
http://www.artistmike.com/StereoPics/Stereo3D.html
Some 3D cross your eyes pics...
":^) ®
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Brian
Yes, so let us ALL agree to not post anything more having to deal with this
subject, okay? :0) And that doesn't meant just Mike. :0) Lets get back to
our work with Painter. :0) As far as your non-caring attitude, that's just
fine. I won't be visiting your site anymore however. Big loss eh?
-Corvus
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":^) ®
":^) ®
Just a reminder.
http://www.artistmike.com/StereoPics/Stereo3D.html
":^) ®
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Mike
3/11/03 8:25 PM:
>
> Yes, so let us ALL agree to not post anything more having to deal with this
> subject, okay? :0) ...
You seem to be the only one with a problem. I enjoy all this and other
people are not responding already... so move on.
":^) ®
> Lets get back to
> our work with Painter.
Who is stopping you?
":^) ®
> As far as your non-caring attitude, that's just
> fine.
You have yet to present something that I should care about.
":^) ®
> I won't be visiting your site anymore however. Big loss eh?
Shrug. The price I am willing to pay to be able to write as I wish.
":^) ®
Some black and white illustrator .eps files to trade...
http://www.artistmike.com/EPS.Files/3.html
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