Which version for Manga?
Tom Wood
Hi All,
I have a teenage daughter who has already written her first novel and who
wants to illustrate it Manga-style.
I can buy a Wacom Intuos2 6x8 tablet direct from Wacom that includes:
"procreate Painter Classic by Corel - This exciting new limited edition of
Painter 7" for $300 total.
Or I can buy Painter 8 direct from Corel in a bundle that includes the Wacom
Intuos2 6x8 tablet for $460 total.
So it's basically an upgrade cost of $160 for 8.
Does anyone know what features are missing from the limited version of 7,
and whether that would really affect a new user?
Thanks,
Tom
Craig Schiller
Tom -
If you expect your daughter will make even moderate use of Painter, go for v8.
Painter Classic is significantly cut down from the full version.
On the other hand, if you just expect her to dabble a bit and then move on, by
all means go for the classic --- it will more than satisfy her curiosity.
Craig
Jin Brown
Hi Tom,
Many, many features and brush variants are not included in Painter
Classic 1 and especially in Painter Classic 2. If you can afford it,
you'll be much better off buying Painter 8... or even waiting until
Painter 9 is released sometime soon.
If you want to see what's available in Painter 8, you can download a
free 30 day trial version on the Corel site at:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel2/Downloads/Home
and/or....
Take advantage of Corel's Perfect Partner Bundle that includes Painter
8, your choice Wacom tablet models, and with some Wacom tablet choices,
a free Lynda.com Painter training CD:
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Products/Standard&scid=1047022128070
Since Painter 9 is soon to be released, you might want to check with
Corel to learn how long the Perfect Partner Bundle will be available.
Again, Painter 8, or any full Painter version, offers vastly greater
capabilities than either Painter Classic version both of which are
stripped down software used to get people interested in buying a full
Painter version. For instance, in the Painter 8 default brush library
that's loaded when Painter is installed there are over 400 brush
variants. On the second CD, there are many more brush libraries each
containing many brush variants.
In addition, in Painter 8 or any full Painter version, we can add extra
art materials and brushes that either come on third party book CD's or
are shared by other Painter users.
Painter Classic 2 uses the new Water Color technology introduced with
Painter 7 and I doubt that it will be so good for Manga art (but I could
be mistaken about that). Painter 8 includes both that new Water Color
technology and the even newer Digital Water Color technology which is
similar to the old Water Colors in Painter 6 and earlier versions, as
well as in Painter Classic 1. Many artists prefer the simpler, smoother
old Water Colors and newer Digital Water Colors over the new Water Color
s found in Painter 7 and Painter 8. The new Water Colors are more
difficult to manage, more complex, and it takes work to learn how to
produce nice artwork with them. Digital Water Colors, seem to be easier
for many artists right from the get go.
That's only the beginning of what's included in Painter 8, but if you're
daughter is serious about art, you'll want to have a full Painter
version, either Painter 8 or Painter 9 when it's released.
Best wishes for many happy hours with Painter, whichever version you buy!
Jinny Brown
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It may be interests you. A brand new version of Painter; Painter 8
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Henry
Tom Wood
Thank you All for your help, I really appreciate it.
I downloaded the demo version of Painter8 onto an older Dell 650MHz with
256MB RAM and it appears to run okay. The watercolors take a few seconds to
resolve, but I assume that's normal? I can buy my daughter a similar system
used for around $300. Should I consider a more powerful system? She's mostly
going to be doing still images one at a time.
Thanks again, this is a great group.
TW
Craig Schiller
Tom -
I think you should take a look at the ads in your local papers. Around here (Los
Angeles), for just $200 more (not even counting whatever rebates are available
from day to day) you can get at least a 1.8 GHz E-machine with 512MB Ram. I
wouldn't spend $300 on such an old, underpowered, used machine (which is
probably also running Win98 or worse). And the additional power will make a HUGE
difference with newer versions of Painter.
Craig
ghi stecyk
if u can, the full versions of any app are what you want. Painter 8 is
what you want. keep in mind that Painter is like having an art materials
supply store on your hard drive... the result is that it is complex. i'm
not sure about what sort of Manga styling your daughter is planning to
do. for the most part it is linear drawing with colored cells like in
comic illustration. most comics are colored and rendered with Photoshop.
Painter can do similar rendering (i use it for my own work)
and have found there are some layer attributes in Painter that work
better for me in this area.
g
Tom Wood
> I think you should take a look at the ads in your local papers. Around
here (Los
> Angeles), for just $200 more (not even counting whatever rebates are
available
> from day to day) you can get at least a 1.8 GHz E-machine with 512MB Ram.
I
> wouldn't spend $300 on such an old, underpowered, used machine (which is
> probably also running Win98 or worse). And the additional power will make
a HUGE
> difference with newer versions of Painter.
>
> Craig
Thanks Craig,
We have a Laboratory Computers here in Austin www.laboratorycomputers.com
that sells several bare bones systems. It looks like the 'Scientist' with
the 2.0GHz Celeron and an upgrade to 512MB and XP Home, at $498 confirms
your advice. For Painter, is the onboard 32MB video adequate? The only other
application my daughter uses a lot is Word, so she's not stressing the video
very much.
Thanks again,
Tom
Craig Schiller
Tom -
I would keep looking a bit. :-) You may be surprised at what you can find. But
to answer your question, 32MB on the video card is certainly adequate. If you
can double the RAM without too many bucks, that would certainly help, but isn't
100% necessary, either. There are two other money factors to consider: a decent
display, and a graphics tablet. The latter you already have your eye on. For the
display, you'll find that nowadays CRTs are cheaper than LCDs, but they're
larger and heavier.
Craig