loosing my mind trying to print accurate color image
edward thurston
For starters, try turning off all colour management and icc profile (use
"Let Windows decide...). CYMK is fine for colour seperation and process
printing (offset), but your printer is RGB as well as your monitor. If the
final output is to offset printing, you can always convert the file to CYMK
later. Set monitor colour to 6200.
I'm using Canon printers (makes no difference if HP, Lexmark etc) and found
the above to give me the closest accuracy to the monitor. Perfection is
impossible unless you use third party colour callibration between
printer,scanner and monitor.....lots'a $$$$$$.
Also I use the HP premium paper (matt). Every paper type will give a
different result due to ink absortion and light reflectivity.
Experiment with different stock . It really is all "hit & miss".
Hope it helps and you make the deadline.
Ted
"George Saridakis" <sari...@fiam.net> wrote in message
news:40544109_2@cnews...
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am running out of time to finish a design for review Tuesday and cannot
> get this to print correctly. Here are a list of my configuration settings
> and some puzzling anomalies:
>
> Background image is midnight velvet from samples 7 series texture fill.
>
> I selected two colors which are close to each other to minimize contrast
and
> lowered the density to 20% and brightness to -5% so that the background
> would be subtle, and then converted the fill to CMYK bitmap
>
> My desktop printer is selected in Windows printer
> properties/color-management setting to use the icm profile specified by
the
> mfg (HP). (I have also experimented with letting Windows decide
> automatically,and it makes no difference)
>
> CD color management will not show the above specified icm file in any
> location I put it (spool or Corel11\color), so I don't know if Corel is
> using the specified file or something else.
>
> Misc setting on print page is set to apply icc profile.
>
> CM arrows are activated for CMYK printer and bottom selection is set to
> optimized for desktop printing
>
> I have tried printing with the CMYK printer defaulted to using generic
CMYK
> and also do not overide printer setting.
>
> When the background image is exported to a Windows metafile and imported
and
> printed from MS Word, the result is almost identical to what I see on my
CD
> screen.
>
> The CD printed result has vivid streaks in it which are far from
> representing the screen image.
>
> Tiff exports show almost a solid intense blue.
>
> Lastly, somewhere in all my experiments I obviously changed something
> significant because a jpg output I created before my experiments cannot be
> recreated (both are attached).
>
> Can anyone please help me id what I am doing wrong, as I am really wrapped
> around the axle on this?
>
> Thanks
> George
>
>
>
George Saridakis
Thank you VERY much Edward.
My print output is now a mirror image of what I have on the screen - either
as a vector fill or when I convert it to a CMYK bitmap.
Sorry for the additional questions, I but am not a professional Graphics
Artist and have been teaching myself CD/PP.
My goal (by using CM converting and printing in CMYK) was to avoid major
league surprises when I send this artwork to Modern Postcard for a proof
before purchasing 5000 postcards. If my print output looks like the screen
is it safe to assume that when I get a proof sheet back from the printer
that it will be similar if not exact??
I do not know what you mean by set monitor color to 6200 - is that a CD
setting or something in Windows?
George
"edward thurston" <yh...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:40546188$1_1@cnews...
edward thurston
Hello George,news:40548cdc_3@cnews...
>
> Thank you VERY much Edward.
You are very welcome.....glad it worked
> My print output is now a mirror image of what I have on the screen -
either
> as a vector fill or when I convert it to a CMYK bitmap.
Doing better than me.....my CYMK a little duller
> Sorry for the additional questions, I but am not a professional Graphics
> Artist and have been teaching myself CD/PP.
Best way to start and the people in these newsgroups have a mountain of
experience to share, with several being in part responsible for creating the
program you are using.
> My goal (by using CM converting and printing in CMYK) was to avoid major
> league surprises when I send this artwork to Modern Postcard for a proof
> before purchasing 5000 postcards. If my print output looks like the
screen
> is it safe to assume that when I get a proof sheet back from the printer
> that it will be similar if not exact??
You might be surprised to find out that several places do not need CYMK
conversion. Technology advances ( I was a printer for 30 years).
Suggestion: Include a copy on photo stock (size not important) and on the CD
, save one file with CYMK conversion and another file as RGB. In both, save
as TIFF. This way you cover all bases for the printer. Unfortunantly the
only way for you and the printer to have absolutly perfect co-ordination in
colour output is for both of you to have the same equipment or compatable
settings.......not possible unless you use only one place for printing and
are willing to spend a lot of money and time setting things up. What you can
expect will be a "Ball Park" comparison. Remember what it's like getting a
reprint from a negative at a one-hour-lab.....never exactly the same.
>
> I do not know what you mean by set monitor color to 6200 - is that a CD
> setting or something in Windows?
If the monitor and the printer look close to each other.....as it seems to
be the case for you right now, never mind about changing the monitors'
colour temperature. (This is done by pressing the "SETTINGS" button on your
monitor and going to "colour temperature, or colour settings or
temperature......different strokes for different folks. I found that 6200
Kelvin best fit my needs re: WYSIWYG )
Best of luck,
Ted