Ideas for new ControlTier start page

[Greg Schueler]

Hi all,

As part of the dev planning for upcoming versions, I'm soliciting feedback for a new ControlTier start page for all of the ControlTier apps.

The page would be shown if you hit the basic server address <http://server:8080/>, and probably live in Jobcenter. It would incorporate links to each of the various apps, as well as some summary information.  The purpose is to have a more integrated start page that is a central point of access to the various features of the different apps.  

I'd like suggestions about what to include on this page.

When you think of your ControlTier automation solution as a whole (jobs, objects, type definitions, reports), what points would you like to jump into easily from the start page?

Some items that could be incorporated:

* running jobs, or recent executions

* deployed objects

* nodes

* links to the workbench operations pages (packages, services, etc.)

* search boxes

All of these would probably be included in some way or another, but I'm interested in hearing about your suggestions.

Thanks,

Greg

[Anthony Shortland]

Hi Greg,

Are you talking about a page for which access is or is not managed by the authentication and authorization mechanism? This will influence what is or is not appropriate to appear there.

Anthony.

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[Alex-SF]

This would be a page a user is directed to after login.

[Johnny Costello]

A Break down by Nodes and what Objects are associated with it and what
is on it. I.E packages recent Jobs etc, You go to that page and you
see you nodes and instantly click on it and see everthing about it
including jobs run etc. Sort of an Enhanced Node Manager.

Another thing that would be really helpful and may be put here is the
ability to monitor log files for services. I know there was talk about
this but as of now this never got implemented. If we had that ability
it would improve the usability of Job Center 10 fold. This can live on
a page like here we you can see a list of logs and monitor them. I
think this would be one of the best improvements made to Job Center

[Damon Edwards]

In my opinion, I see ControlTier as being about action. So there are 3 "areas" that would be useful on a start page:

1. Actions I can take (how those are listed/organized is debatable) 

2. History of what actions have taken place in the system 

3. Things I can take action on (nodes, services, sites, etc...)

Not sure if that is 3 separate areas on the page. Or perhaps it's #1 and #2 each organized by #3.

Johnny, rather than build a full log monitor within ControlTier, wouldn't it makes sense to link off to something like Splunk for that? So for example, when you want to see a log file for a service (or say for all services on a particular node) you would be presented with a link that would take you to the right Splunk page.

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[Moses Lei]

As far as logs, I was thinking of expanding Service to take some kind of Log File dependency that would define the location of log files... then the console, whatever it may be, could take advantage of that information and give you a basic tail, etc.

Splunk is not free/OSS... but I'd be open to integrating with a free product of that sort.

Moses

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[Johnny Costello]

This is more what I had in mind. When starting services within Job
Center many times I want to monitor the logs of the services. More of
a tail so that I can see that they started correctly. Currently when
Job Center starts a job it only checks to see if the start work.
Tomcat for instance is an example. Tomcat might have started by the
application did not start. Right now I have to have a console open or
several consoles monitoring it. Nodes and service is already within
ControlTier. I would love to see a tail of a log that you can specify
for that service as they start up. Splunk etc are nice for looking at
logs later. But most of the time I simply want tail as the services
is started.

does this make sense?

Johnny

[Alex-SF]

Based on Moses and Johnny's comments seems like having a record of a
resource's log files would be useful (eg, to facilitate tailing and
archival).

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[Johnny Costello]

That is great. This takes a huge task away from the sys admins and
hands it to the people running the jobs. They can watch the logs and
verify the jobs start correctly. I was thinking of ways it could be
implemented. One way would be to implement another tab in job center
that's tails each service as they start and that you can switch back
and forth. But I think a better way would be to have the ability for a
seperate pop up window to run in conjunction with the job so that you
can monitor each service as well as controltier.You can then monitor
dependent services as they start up and how they are affecting other
services.

Thanks
JC

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