Gentoo Linux on a MacBook Pro

[Brett Wiggins]

Hi everyone,

My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah? Anyway Help would be appreciated.

Brett.

[Andy Gelme]

hi All,

All personal opinions aside.

The CCHS as an organization doesn't encourage activities that are
illegal or break legal contracts (like licenses).

The issues with Hackintosh are ...

1) If you legitimately purchase a copy of Apple's Mac OS X operating
system and agree to the EULA
(http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx107.pdf) by installing it
on your non-Apple hardware, then you are breaking the specific terms of
the license that only allow installation on Apple branded hardware.

2) If you made a copy or downloaded Apple's Mac OS X operating system
without paying for it ... then, that is a violation of copyright.
Clearly, illegal.

Here is a helpful article ...
http://www.lockergnome.com/osx/2012/02/24/are-hackintosh-computers-legal

On 2012-10-1 15:28 , Bogdan Bednarczyk wrote:
> Only have done hackintosh on Inter board
> have a look at the site www.hackintosh.com or www.tonymacx86.com/home.php
> and i suppose (not sure) if they can get the non Mac hardware to run
> OSX they should be able to run on mac hardware
> maybe those will help but in any case by reading you get more
> understanding

Bogdan: The original question was about putting open (free) software
onto a MacBook Pro. This is a completely legitimate question and if we
stick to that topic, then we can avoid straying into areas of
questionable legality.

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[Bogdan Bednarczyk]

Hi Andy
Sorry, I do not encourage illegal activities either,
I thought this was quite legal to install your purchased software on any hardware, that's what the impression on the sites i mentioned,
but i did not read the EULA, Takes so long to read and I dont understand half the terminology, I'm not smart enough. lol
bogs

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[Kris Gesling]

Hi Brett,

I've installed linux on a couple of Macs with varying success but never with Gentoo. My current (fairly new) MBP was definitely on the not usable end of the spectrum so currently I just use virtualbox.

I found the best way to get started was to get the Model Identifier. If you still have access to the OS just hit the Apple in the top left > About this Mac > More Info > System Report.

I'm guessing you've seen this page already?

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Apple_Macbook_Pro

Cheers

Kris

Brett.

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[John Spencer]

Hi Brett

I've installed Ubuntu on to Macbooks in the past before with no problems.

It has been a while and things do seem to have changed.  I recommend checking out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro to get an idea on how well it's all going to work.

John

Brett.

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[Andy Gelme]

hi Bogdan,

On 2012-10-1 16:09 , Bogdan Bednarczyk wrote:
> Sorry, I do not encourage illegal activities either

Didn't mean to imply that you did. I should have been more clear.

Just wanted to make a broad statement ... so that our list didn't slide
into the intricacies of Hackintosh, etc.

> I thought this was quite legal to install your purchased software on
> any hardware, that's what the impression on the sites i mentioned, but
> i did not read the EULA, Takes so long to read and I dont understand
> half the terminology

EULAs are sometimes like companies leaving little legal landmines for
their customers. Not the most friendly behavior.

Anyway, let's not lose ourselves in legal chit-chat ... back to hacking !

[Brett Wiggins]

Hi John,

The main problem in having is with the boot medium and partitioning at the moment. I have to use a usb stick because the DVD drive is broken. I have been reading that I'll have to use a tool such as rEFIt because the macbook doesn't have a bios. When you installed ubuntu how did you setup grub ect?


thanks,

Brett.

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[John Spencer]

Too be honest, it was so long ago that I'm struggling to remember.  There were some extra steps I needed to do to make it work but nothing too difficult.

A quick search reveals https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation

Booting from a usb stick shouldn't be too much of a problem.  Just hold the Option key as it boots.

John