My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the
list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of
view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put
free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it
to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've
never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS
a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find
out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on
the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is
incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use
the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah?
Anyway Help would be appreciated.
Only have done hackintosh on Inter board have a look at the site www.hackintosh.com or www.tonymacx86.com/home.php and i suppose (not sure) if they can get the non Mac hardware to run OSX they should be able to run on mac hardware maybe those will help but in any case by reading you get more understanding Bogs
On Sunday, 30 September 2012 12:53:04 UTC+10, Brett Wiggins wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the > list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of > view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put > free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it > to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've > never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS > a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find > out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on > the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is > incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use > the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah? > Anyway Help would be appreciated.
The CCHS as an organization doesn't encourage activities that are
illegal or break legal contracts (like licenses).
The issues with Hackintosh are ...
1) If you legitimately purchase a copy of Apple's Mac OS X operating
system and agree to the EULA
(http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx107.pdf) by installing it
on your non-Apple hardware, then you are breaking the specific terms of
the license that only allow installation on Apple branded hardware.
2) If you made a copy or downloaded Apple's Mac OS X operating system
without paying for it ... then, that is a violation of copyright. Clearly, illegal.
> Only have done hackintosh on Inter board
> have a look at the site www.hackintosh.com or www.tonymacx86.com/home.php > and i suppose (not sure) if they can get the non Mac hardware to run
> OSX they should be able to run on mac hardware
> maybe those will help but in any case by reading you get more
> understanding
Bogdan: The original question was about putting open (free) software
onto a MacBook Pro. This is a completely legitimate question and if we
stick to that topic, then we can avoid straying into areas of
questionable legality.
Hi Andy
Sorry, I do not encourage illegal activities either,
I thought this was quite legal to install your purchased software on any
hardware, that's what the impression on the sites i mentioned,
but i did not read the EULA, Takes so long to read and I dont understand
half the terminology, I'm not smart enough. lol
bogs
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Andy Gelme <an...@geekscape.org> wrote:
> hi All,
> All personal opinions aside.
> The CCHS as an organization doesn't encourage activities that are
> illegal or break legal contracts (like licenses).
> The issues with Hackintosh are ...
> 1) If you legitimately purchase a copy of Apple's Mac OS X operating
> system and agree to the EULA
> (http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx107.pdf) by installing it
> on your non-Apple hardware, then you are breaking the specific terms of
> the license that only allow installation on Apple branded hardware.
> 2) If you made a copy or downloaded Apple's Mac OS X operating system
> without paying for it ... then, that is a violation of copyright.
> Clearly, illegal.
> On 2012-10-1 15:28 , Bogdan Bednarczyk wrote:
> > Only have done hackintosh on Inter board
> > have a look at the site www.hackintosh.com or
> www.tonymacx86.com/home.php > > and i suppose (not sure) if they can get the non Mac hardware to run
> > OSX they should be able to run on mac hardware
> > maybe those will help but in any case by reading you get more
> > understanding
> Bogdan: The original question was about putting open (free) software
> onto a MacBook Pro. This is a completely legitimate question and if we
> stick to that topic, then we can avoid straying into areas of
> questionable legality.
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I've installed linux on a couple of Macs with varying success but never
with Gentoo. My current (fairly new) MBP was definitely on the not usable
end of the spectrum so currently I just use virtualbox.
I found the best way to get started was to get the Model Identifier. If you
still have access to the OS just hit the Apple in the top left > About this
Mac > More Info > System Report.
> My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the
> list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of
> view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put
> free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it
> to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've
> never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS
> a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find
> out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on
> the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is
> incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use
> the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah?
> Anyway Help would be appreciated.
> Brett.
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I've installed Ubuntu on to Macbooks in the past before with no problems.
It has been a while and things do seem to have changed. I recommend
checking out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro to get an idea on
how well it's all going to work.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Brett Wiggins <baw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the
> list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of
> view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put
> free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it
> to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've
> never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS
> a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find
> out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on
> the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is
> incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use
> the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah?
> Anyway Help would be appreciated.
> Brett.
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> Sorry, I do not encourage illegal activities either
Didn't mean to imply that you did. I should have been more clear.
Just wanted to make a broad statement ... so that our list didn't slide
into the intricacies of Hackintosh, etc.
> I thought this was quite legal to install your purchased software on
> any hardware, that's what the impression on the sites i mentioned, but
> i did not read the EULA, Takes so long to read and I dont understand
> half the terminology
EULAs are sometimes like companies leaving little legal landmines for
their customers. Not the most friendly behavior.
Anyway, let's not lose ourselves in legal chit-chat ... back to hacking !
The main problem in having is with the boot medium and partitioning at the
moment. I have to use a usb stick because the DVD drive is broken. I have
been reading that I'll have to use a tool such as rEFIt because the macbook
doesn't have a bios. When you installed ubuntu how did you setup grub ect?
thanks,
Brett.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Spencer <john.spencer.9...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I've installed Ubuntu on to Macbooks in the past before with no problems.
> It has been a while and things do seem to have changed. I recommend
> checking out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro to get an idea
> on how well it's all going to work.
> John
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Brett Wiggins <baw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to the
>> list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of
>> view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put
>> free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it
>> to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've
>> never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS
>> a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find
>> out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on
>> the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is
>> incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use
>> the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah?
>> Anyway Help would be appreciated.
>> Brett.
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either an "OK" message, an error, nothing, or (all too often) a pretty blue
screen with nifty high-tech letters' explaining exactly where the system
crashed" - Michael Lucas
Too be honest, it was so long ago that I'm struggling to remember. There
were some extra steps I needed to do to make it work but nothing too
difficult.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Brett Wiggins <baw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> The main problem in having is with the boot medium and partitioning at the
> moment. I have to use a usb stick because the DVD drive is broken. I have
> been reading that I'll have to use a tool such as rEFIt because the macbook
> doesn't have a bios. When you installed ubuntu how did you setup grub ect?
> thanks,
> Brett.
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Spencer <john.spencer.9...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi Brett
>> I've installed Ubuntu on to Macbooks in the past before with no problems.
>> It has been a while and things do seem to have changed. I recommend
>> checking out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro to get an idea
>> on how well it's all going to work.
>> John
>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Brett Wiggins <baw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> My name is Brett and I'm a CCHS newbie, This is also my first post to
>>> the list. I have been given a free MacBook Pro circa 2008. From my point of
>>> view the best thing to do with free hardware (free as in beer) is to put
>>> free software (free as in freedom) on it, plus it's my way of sticking it
>>> to Apple. Has anyone from CCHS ventured into the Mac/Linux realm? I've
>>> never done a macbook before and am looking for advice. Is the lack of BIOS
>>> a problem? What CFLAGS to use? what install image do I use? How do I find
>>> out exactly the model of my macbook ect... There is a Macbook Pro entry on
>>> the Gentoo Wiki but it is missing allot of information and is
>>> incomplete/old. Once I have the USB intallation stick done do I just use
>>> the generic amd64 handbook...it is after all just an Intel CPU now yeah?
>>> Anyway Help would be appreciated.
>>> Brett.
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