Free Book about Hackerspaces

[Mike Lewis]

Hi,

There's a free book called 'Hackerspaces: The Beginning" at
http://www.archive.org/details/hackerspaces-the-beginning

Cheers,
Mike Lewis

[Luke Weston]

This is good, it's an interesting and fun read.

It's also a good resource to give to the uninitiated so they can get a really good understanding of what a hackerspace is.

[David Payne]

On Sep 8, 6:48 am, Luke Weston <reindeerfloti...@gmail.com> wrote:

SNIP

> It's also a good resource to give to the uninitiated so they can get a
> really good understanding of what a hackerspace is.

I've only skimmed it so far. I expect it will have a lot of useful
stuff, but you might want to be careful about who you refer to that
book. The Chaos computer club is probably best known (perhaps
unfairly) for stealing secrets & selling them to the USSR; also
copying & sharing copyrighted music in the patented MP3 format.
(Bullboard Mike probably remembers Clifford Stoll's "The Cuckoo's
Egg)
(BTW Chaos had nothing to do with Melbourne's now defunct KAOS, which
stood for Kims, Aims, Ohios & Sims:- all 6502 based microcomputers.)

It's a bit like advocating road & roadside construction that's safer
for (motor&)cyclists; and referring people not to the MRAA or similar
groups, but to Hells Angels.

[David Payne]

I've since noticed that Wikipedia says the crackers  WEREN'T part of Chaos computer club or at least not officially sanctioned. Might be another one of those talk to someone else & get a different answer situations, like Men's Sheds Association. (I'm looking for my old post so I can update that too). 

[George Patterson]

On 18 May 2012 02:38, David Payne <spyde...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:09:07 AM UTC+11, David Payne wrote:
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David,

Why are you digging up an old thread? It was dead and buried, time move on.

Regards


George

[David Payne]

On May 20, 4:59 pm, George Patterson <george.patter...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 18 May 2012 02:38, David Payne <spyder.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:09:07 AM UTC+11, David Payne wrote:
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> David,
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> Why are you digging up an old thread?

Because I think that my earlier statement should be contextualized by
what I have since learned about Chaos's public statements.

> It was dead and buried, time move on.
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> Regards
>
> George

I don't think anything on the net is ever reliably dead & buried. Even
some? of old Usenet threads from long before Google existed. Unlike
some other posts I do, the ones on this thread, (and it is "there"
even if most read it as an email), was seriously intended to enhance
the value of the thread.

So I guess we have a different mental model of the threads. Yours
might be technically correct, I'm acting on my perception that old
threads will show up in search engine results & that it's better to
further discuss a topic in the existing thread than revisit the topic
in a new thread;- and I've seen plenty of that in other groups!

Although your post was only half about the subject of that thread &
this post almost completely about Netiquette not the book!

If I'm wrong please try to explain if it's not too tiresome. I'm more
technical than the average computer user these days (who basically
isn't at all) but I'm aware I'm almost a village idiot in CCHS. That's
why I hope I won't make any imperative statements, just refer to what
others have written.