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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 06:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Computrak
From: ronwar <international...@yahoo.com>
To: CompuTrak Handicapper Forum <computrak-forum@googlegroups.com>

Hi JJA

Thanks!  I mostly play my home tracks, Southern Cal., unless there is
a big day somewhere.
My tools of the trade have always been thorograph, todays racing
digest, and the form.  I agree with you,
thorograph has the best numbers.  What made me interested in in CT is
it seemed to incorporate some of the
same things thorograph does, and I love the odds line.  If it was
possible to input TG numbers I think it would be awesome!

If you're ever headed to the track soon, I would love to buy you a
drink and discuss racing.

Thanks again for you input.
Ron

On May 7, 10:53=A0am, JJA <jjcoooolst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> (I am not sure my initial posting was transmitted so excuse me if this
> show up twice)
>
> It is nice to see a few people interacting. =A0I hope it continues. I
> was =A0reading all the Postings on the Thorograph =A0site for the Derby.
> and thought it =A0great if CT =A0users would =A0do the same.
>
> I started using CT in 1994 =A0, It was the initial version =A0and came on
> a floppy diskette. =A0All the final =A0times and fractional =A0times, =A0h=
ad
> to be inputted manually. There were no Track Variants . or
> normalization =A0for the different tracks. In =A0reading Ruben's theories
> and talking to him , =A0I decided that his ideas were something new =A0and=

> different from all the other number crunching programs.
>
> I started handicapping in 1974. =A0I used the Racing Digest for TV's and
> made my own speed figures. In 1990 I met Bob Beinish and Jon Hardoon
> of the Ragozin sheets, =A0and became an ardent believer in the
> "figures". =A0I =A0also =A0worked for Bob Selvin and Jeff Siegal of
> Handicappers Report =A0for 4 years . I had discussions on pace
> handicapping with Tom Brohammer =A0and actually had a small diskette
> program that he developed based on his books.
>
> Between 1994 and 1998 =A0Rubin and I =A0talked a few =A0times =A0about
> Computrak and how to improve it.
>
> In 1998, =A0 I moved to Santa Barbara =A0and =A0once I =A0got settled =A0I=
 gave
> Rubin a call =A0told him I had moved. We got together at the local
> satellite wagering facility. =A0We became great friends and I became
> the "beta tester" for Computrak.
>
> At this point CT was able to download the data from BRIS .
> and what was outputted was =A0the "Extensive" version.
> over the next year or so, the following outputs were added.
> Normalization of figures from track to track,
> The Boxer Number, The Magic Number, Improvement, and Form
> calculations, as well as incorporating all the data available from
> BRIS.
> Trying to emulate the =A0SHEETS as I explained the concept, Rubin
> devised =A0what is the called the Charts, =A0a graph of the S and F.
>
> I used to make my own odds line using Barry Meadows 1991 book =A0"Money
> Secrets at the Race Track" =A0and gave my copy to Rube ( I think he
> still has it). =A0and the final output was produced the "Odds Line".
> This also served =A0a different purpose it gave the program a way to
> actually make a selection.
>
> I moved back to Los Angeles in 1998, =A0 My interest in Horse Racing
> comes and goes now with how much time I can devote to it. My interest
> these days is pretty casual.
>
> There is just one thing I still wonder about. =A0I =A0wish I had a version=

> of CT that I could replace the BRIS Speed Figure (which is used to
> normalize the Tracks and creates the day to day Track Variant ) with
> one of my own =A0or =A0for example what would be the output if you could
> input the Thorograph =A0numbers ? =A0Since it these numbers, are
> universally accepted as the most accurate made (Sorry Ragozin), =A0and
> using all of Ruben's engineering concepts what would the out put be
> like. ?
>
> So Ruben if you are reading this, =A0I would love to Beta test that
> version.
>
> JJA