Re: [Computer-go] New commercial Crazy Stone

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Rémi Coulom

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May 17, 2012, 7:41:54 AM5/17/12
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On 8 avr. 2012, at 22:05, Ingo Althöfer wrote:

> Hi Remi,
>
>> ... the English version will be available
>> soon. The old version is available at a discount until then. The new version
>> will be available from that page:
>> http://www.unbalance.co.jp/igo/eng/
>> It currently says "in the middle of April".
>
> thanks for the link to the English version page and for the
> intended date of release.
>
> Will the English version also have analysis window/feature?
> (I hope for CrazyAnalysis to be included.)

Hi Ingo,

Because there was so much demand for analysis features, Unbalance reconsidered their plans, and after all made an English version with analysis features. It is even better than the Japanese version now, because it also shows the histogram. You can see screenshots there:
http://www.unbalance.co.jp/igo/eng/

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"Ingo Althöfer"

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May 17, 2012, 10:19:28 AM5/17/12
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Hello Remi,


> Because there was so much demand for analysis features, Unbalance
> reconsidered their plans, and after all made an English version with analysis
> features. It is even better than the Japanese version now, because it also shows
> the histogram. You can see screenshots there:
> http://www.unbalance.co.jp/igo/eng/
>
> Rémi

Thanks for the information.

One question. On the website it is said
>> To play Crazy Stone 2012, your PC must be connected to the Internet. <<

How is this sentence meant?

Do I need internet connection for installing the program
or do I need internet connection every time when I want to play?

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Chin-Chang Yang

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May 21, 2012, 2:17:26 AM5/21/12
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Hi, 

I want to know more information about English version of CrazyStone 2012. Can anyone answer the following questions?

Does it support Chinese rule?
What does the "Histogram" mean?
In "Record Analysis List" window, what does the "Situation" and "Delta" mean?
Can I set the amount of playouts in "Analysis Mode" to maximize its accuracy?
And, can I set the amount of playouts in "Game Mode" to control computer's strength?

Thank you.

Best regards,
Chin-Chang Yang, 2012/05/21

2012/5/17 "Ingo Althöfer" <3-Hirn...@gmx.de>



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Rémi Coulom

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May 21, 2012, 3:36:52 AM5/21/12
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On 21 mai 2012, at 08:17, Chin-Chang Yang wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to know more information about English version of CrazyStone 2012. Can anyone answer the following questions?
>
> Does it support Chinese rule?

Yes.

> What does the "Histogram" mean?

It is the distribution of playout scores.

> In "Record Analysis List" window, what does the "Situation" and "Delta" mean?

Situation is the expected score. Delta is the difference in win rate between the move suggested by Crazy Stone, and the move actually played during the game.

> Can I set the amount of playouts in "Analysis Mode" to maximize its accuracy?

You can set the thinking time for analyzing the whole game. You can set it from 5 minutes to 8 hours, if I remember correctly.

> And, can I set the amount of playouts in "Game Mode" to control computer's strength?

You can choose a level. The web site says "10 levels of play". The most recent beta I tested actually had 20, so it may be 20 after all. Each level corresponds to a total number of playouts per game.

Chin-Chang Yang

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May 21, 2012, 3:42:18 AM5/21/12
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Hi  Rémi:

Thanks for the information. It really helps!!

Best regards, Chin-Chang Yang, 2012/05/21

2012/5/21 Rémi Coulom <Remi....@free.fr>



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Rémi Coulom

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May 21, 2012, 3:45:39 AM5/21/12
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On 21 mai 2012, at 09:36, Rémi Coulom wrote:

>
> You can choose a level. The web site says "10 levels of play". The most recent beta I tested actually had 20, so it may be 20 after all. Each level corresponds to a total number of playouts per game.

There are in fact 10 levels as indicated in the web site, sorry for the confusion.

Rémi

terry mcintyre

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May 21, 2012, 10:49:48 AM5/21/12
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"Every time you start Crazy Stone 2012, your PC must be connected
to the internet for activation by serial number,"

This is a very annoying "feature."
Perhaps the authors have not considered the existence of mobile laptops, which are not always connected to the internet? There are many dead zones where wifi is not available, or where one must pay a large fee to obtain access. Back when I was flying more often, I found many such internet-free zones in precisely the places where I had free time to play a game. 

Álvaro Begué

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May 21, 2012, 11:02:19 AM5/21/12
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So basically, no playing with this on a plane. And all because of a
bizarre, misguided anti-piracy feature. I hope someone hacks it...

"Ingo Althöfer"

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May 21, 2012, 12:39:31 PM5/21/12
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Hello

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:49 AM, terry mcintyre
> <terrym...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Every time you start Crazy Stone 2012, your PC must be connected
> > to the internet for activation by serial number,"
> >
> > This is a very annoying "feature."

Álvaro Begué wrote
> ... And all because of a


> bizarre, misguided anti-piracy feature. I hope someone hacks it...

Hopefully NOT.
I also do not like this procedure. But the program itself is so nice
that I hope for a better solution by the distributing company.

A role model is David Fotland's ManyFaces: After installing it on a special
machine the screen shows a long number (depending on the machine). You have
to mail this number to David, and in return get another long number.
This you enter in your machine and voila, ManyFaces is running.

Hoping for an insight by the company (and for fairplay by the users),
Ingo.


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