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Pinnerite

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Nov 22, 2011, 5:07:18 AM11/22/11
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I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now I
have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move it
to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right hand
items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that is as
far as I can get.

I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.

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PCLinuxOS release 2011 (PCLinuxOS) for x86_64
Kernel 2.6.38.8-pclos3
KDE version 4.6.5
Running on an AMD 4-core processor

J.O. Aho

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Nov 22, 2011, 12:03:47 PM11/22/11
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Pinnerite wrote:
> I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now I
> have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move it
> to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right hand
> items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that is as
> far as I can get.
>
> I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.
>

Which version of KDE? There was huge issues with placements in early KDE4
versions.

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//Aho

Pinnerite

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Nov 23, 2011, 5:35:11 PM11/23/11
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See below (?)

J.O. Aho

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Nov 24, 2011, 1:51:43 AM11/24/11
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Pinnerite wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> Pinnerite wrote:
>>> I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now
>>> I have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move
>>> it to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right
>>> hand items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that
>>> is as far as I can get.
>>>
>>> I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.
>>>
>>
>> Which version of KDE? There was huge issues with placements in early KDE4
>> versions.
>>
>
> KDE version 4.6.5
>

You need to place out spacers and size them accordingly to push things out.

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//Aho

Pinnerite

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Nov 24, 2011, 6:14:54 AM11/24/11
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I tried that tentatively but it seemed to make things worse. I think the
placement mechanism could do with an overhaul. It is relatively user-hostile
and doesn't present new Linux user's with an easy to use environment.
Compare it with macbuntu which really does make the desktop look and behave
with the smoothness of a Mac. It is such a shame because most idiosyncracies
seem to have been ironed out of kde4.

Regards, Alan

J.O. Aho

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Nov 24, 2011, 11:59:38 AM11/24/11
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Pinnerite wrote:
> J.O. Aho wrote:
>
>> Pinnerite wrote:
>>> J.O. Aho wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pinnerite wrote:
>>>>> I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right
>>>>> now I have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do
>>>>> will move it to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other
>>>>> regular right hand items away from the left where I had managed to
>>>>> bundle them but that is as far as I can get.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which version of KDE? There was huge issues with placements in early
>>>> KDE4 versions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> KDE version 4.6.5
>>>
>>
>> You need to place out spacers and size them accordingly to push things
>> out.
>>
>
> I tried that tentatively but it seemed to make things worse. I think the
> placement mechanism could do with an overhaul. It is relatively user-hostile
> and doesn't present new Linux user's with an easy to use environment.
> Compare it with macbuntu which really does make the desktop look and behave
> with the smoothness of a Mac. It is such a shame because most idiosyncracies
> seem to have been ironed out of kde4.

I agree, it was better in KDE3, but for some reason they decided to have
spacers instead of positions for applets, think when I first installed KDE4,
they didn't have the spacers at all.


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//Aho

jo...@wexfordpress.com

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Nov 25, 2011, 5:35:13 PM11/25/11
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Consider also using XFCE. It resembles KDE3 more than KDE4 resembles
KDE3. IMO KDE4 has a truly
difficult interface. I also dumped Kmail because of the spurious
error messages at startup and installed Claws-Mail.
The search function is not as good as Kmail but in other respects it
is comparable and doesn't give me all those crazy Akonadi messages.
John Culleton

J.O. Aho

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Nov 26, 2011, 4:35:16 AM11/26/11
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jo...@wexfordpress.com wrote:

> Consider also using XFCE. It resembles KDE3 more than KDE4 resembles
> KDE3.

Sadly they depend on gtk2, which makes them to follow the "standards" set by
the gnome2/3 developers, so XFCE falls completely out of my list of any
possible replacement for KDE.
The only alternative I do have is fall back to ctwm, but it's not something
for those who likes fancy things.


> I also dumped Kmail because of the spurious
> error messages at startup and installed Claws-Mail.

I never liked KMail, it has always felt so slow and difficult and I been a die
hard user of Mozilla Suit (later renamed to SeaMonkey), but I seldom use a
mail client with a GUI, I tend to use pine. At work I do use thunderbird
together with davmail (sadly the company only supports a ms-only mail
environment).


> The search function is not as good as Kmail but in other respects it
> is comparable and doesn't give me all those crazy Akonadi messages.

Nowadays I have managed to get rid of all the error messages from Akonadi and
disabled the nepomuk (sadly I get messages at login that it's not enabled).
Now I'm in the thought of switching Akonadi to use sqlite instead of mysql,
but have other things I have higher priority as moving stuff to a new server.


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//Aho
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