kde 4.7 (nearly) without akonadi
Hendrik van Hees
korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For quite some
time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment but kmail & Co.
from kde3.
This weekend I switched to kde 4.7. Since kmail itself didn't even
start, I moved my .kde4 directory somewhere else to backup it and
started from scratch. After a lot of configuration issues I got kmail2
to run, but the kaddressbook is still unusable for me. I could migrate
my old kde3 addressbook, but after a while akonadi forgot about it, and
also changes made to it by testing where lost. Last but not least group
mailing still doesn't work.
Then, my computer has been busy quite a lot of CPU time with some
indexing stuff (and I've already switched of strigi, which I never
needed since I don't know what it does for me, and I'm not interested in
it; the only "file indexing" I need and use for years is locate), I
decided to make kde 4.7 as akonadi free as possible since I like kde 4
in principle, mostly because it's quite nicely configurable to what I
like, and except akonadi, I could switch off everything I don't need.
So I deinstalled as much akonadi stuff as I could (using yast since my
Linux distri is opensuse 11.4), including all PIM related packages and
anything else which depends on it. Some akonadi packages seem still to
be necessary to use some stuff I like to keep (including kdm ;-)).
Finally, I also deinstalled everything related to tracker. Now, I've a
pretty nice desktop environment which keeps the resources of my computer
for the real work I like to do (mostly program testing for my research
and LaTeXing).
For mail and news, I'm finally using thunderbird with the lightning
plugin for my time scheduling. The migration of all my mails from kmail
has been a bit tough, since I had to copy it to my IMAP mail server and
then back to the local folders of thunderbird since I like to have all
my e-mails local. The addressbook and calendar where very easy to import.
--
Hendrik van Hees
Frankfurt Institute of Advanced Studies
D-60438 Frankfurt am Main
http://theory.gsi.de/~vanhees/faq/index.html
jo...@wexfordpress.com
I faced the same problem and came up with a different solution. I
downloaded and installed Claws-Mail. In some ways it is easier to use,
such as Bogofilter. I no longer have to run a special script each
night to update Bogofilter.
The creation of filters is a bit fussier. And it doesn't have the
search function of Kmail. But I don't have to fuss with
KDEWallet and of course Akonadi is no longer in play. Recreating all
my folders and filters was tedious, but it is done.
Since that time I have learned how to turn of all those irrelevant
error messages from Akonadi. But I have swiitched and will stay
switched now.
I wonder if the KDE developers are aware of the customer
dissatisfaction with Akonadi and indeed with KDE 4 in general. I
switched my GUI to XFCE earlier. I still load KDE in my Salix
(Slackware derivative) system just for a few
utilities---Ksnapshot, Krita and Okular (though I could live without
Okular, I have Adobe Reader.)
I have to keep a Slackware 12.2 partition (KDE 3.5) available just to
get to Quanta Plus. It was never updated to work with KDE 4. Indeed I
would be happy with Slackware 12.2, but critical (to me) software
packages depend on a very recent edition of QT, and I am not game to
go through library update hell manually.
John Culleton
jo...@wexfordpress.com
wrote:
Correction: there is a search function in Claws Mail. But It is
started in a different way.
John C.
bad sector
> Since kde 4.x kmail, knode, and mostly kaddressbook (sometimes also
> korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For quite some
> time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment but kmail & Co.
> from kde3.
Pinnerite
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Ian Gay
> bad sector wrote:
>
>> On 08/16/2011 06:44 AM, Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>>> Since kde 4.x kmail, knode, and mostly kaddressbook (sometimes also
>>> korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For quite some
>>> time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment but kmail &
>>> Co. from kde3.
>>
>> that's one of the reasons why I moved to Sylpheed
>
> I have never had a problem with knode under kde4.
>
>
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Pinnerite
> Pinnerite wrote:
>
>> bad sector wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/16/2011 06:44 AM, Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>>>> Since kde 4.x kmail, knode, and mostly kaddressbook (sometimes also
>>>> korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For quite some
>>>> time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment but kmail &
>>>> Co. from kde3.
>>>
>>> that's one of the reasons why I moved to Sylpheed
>>
>> I have never had a problem with knode under kde4.
>>
>>
> Have you found a way to copy articles into local folders?
>
>
Ian Gay
> Ian Gay wrote:
>
>> Pinnerite wrote:
>>
>>> bad sector wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/16/2011 06:44 AM, Hendrik van Hees wrote:
>>>>> Since kde 4.x kmail, knode, and mostly kaddressbook (sometimes
>>>>> also korganizer) are quite unstable and not really useful. For
>>>>> quite some time, I've been using the kde 4.x desktop environment
>>>>> but kmail & Co. from kde3.
>>>>
>>>> that's one of the reasons why I moved to Sylpheed
>>>
>>> I have never had a problem with knode under kde4.
>>>
>>>
>> Have you found a way to copy articles into local folders?
>>
>>
> I can certainly 'save as'. Does that count?
>
>
articles from the article list pane to local folders listed at the
bottom of the group list pane. In spite of several bug reports, they
have not bothered to fix this regression in kde4.
Graham P Davis
acknowledged. Trouble is, KDE boffins are all forum-orientated
nowadays and can't be bothered to even look at bugs affecting knode,
let alone fix them.
Looking further back, there was a bug report that this feature had a
small bug. I think their cure was to remove the feature completely. A
bit like amputating someone's leg because they have an ingrowing
toenail.
Graham