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Pinnerite  
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 More options Nov 22 2011, 5:07 am
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From: Pinnerite <pinnerite-without-these-wo...@asandco.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:07:18 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 22 2011 5:07 am
Subject: Task bar icons / plasmas
I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now I
have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move it
to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right hand
items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that is as
far as I can get.

I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.

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J.O. Aho  
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 More options Nov 22 2011, 12:03 pm
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From: "J.O. Aho" <u...@example.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:03:47 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 22 2011 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

Pinnerite wrote:
> I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now I
> have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move it
> to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right hand
> items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that is as
> far as I can get.

> I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.

Which version of KDE? There was huge issues with placements in early KDE4
versions.

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Pinnerite  
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 More options Nov 23 2011, 5:35 pm
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From: Pinnerite <pinnerite-without-these-wo...@asandco.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:35:11 +0000
Local: Wed, Nov 23 2011 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

J.O. Aho wrote:
> Pinnerite wrote:
>> I never seem to master the placement of items on the task bar. Right now
>> I have the digital clock sitting in the middle and nothing I do will move
>> it to the right. I seem to have managed to get the other regular right
>> hand items away from the left where I had managed to bundle them but that
>> is as far as I can get.

>> I find the 'help' pretty disappointing in this regard.

> Which version of KDE? There was huge issues with placements in early KDE4
> versions.

See below (?)

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J.O. Aho  
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 More options Nov 24 2011, 1:51 am
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:51:43 +0100
Local: Thurs, Nov 24 2011 1:51 am
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

You need to place out spacers and size them accordingly to push things out.

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Pinnerite  
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 More options Nov 24 2011, 6:14 am
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From: Pinnerite <pinnerite-without-these-wo...@asandco.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:14:54 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 24 2011 6:14 am
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

I tried that tentatively but it seemed to make things worse. I think the
placement mechanism could do with an overhaul. It is relatively user-hostile
and doesn't present new Linux user's with an easy to use environment.
Compare it with macbuntu which really does make the desktop look and behave
with the smoothness of a Mac. It is such a shame because most idiosyncracies
seem to have been ironed out of kde4.

Regards,  Alan

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J.O. Aho  
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 More options Nov 24 2011, 11:59 am
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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:59:38 +0100
Local: Thurs, Nov 24 2011 11:59 am
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

I agree, it was better in KDE3, but for some reason they decided to have
spacers instead of positions for applets, think when I first installed KDE4,
they didn't have the spacers at all.

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 More options Nov 25 2011, 5:35 pm
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:35:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 25 2011 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas
On Nov 24, 11:59 am, "J.O. Aho" <u...@example.net> wrote:

Consider also using XFCE. It resembles KDE3 more than KDE4 resembles
KDE3. IMO KDE4 has a truly
difficult interface.  I also dumped Kmail because of the spurious
error messages at startup and installed Claws-Mail.
The search function is not as good as Kmail but in other respects it
is comparable and doesn't give me all those crazy Akonadi messages.
John Culleton

 
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J.O. Aho  
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 More options Nov 26 2011, 4:35 am
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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:35:16 +0100
Local: Sat, Nov 26 2011 4:35 am
Subject: Re: Task bar icons / plasmas

j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:
> Consider also using XFCE. It resembles KDE3 more than KDE4 resembles
> KDE3.

Sadly they depend on gtk2, which makes them to follow the "standards" set by
the gnome2/3 developers, so XFCE falls completely out of my list of any
possible replacement for KDE.
The only alternative I do have is fall back to ctwm, but it's not something
for those who likes fancy things.

> I also dumped Kmail because of the spurious
> error messages at startup and installed Claws-Mail.

I never liked KMail, it has always felt so slow and difficult and I been a die
hard user of Mozilla Suit (later renamed to SeaMonkey), but I seldom use a
mail client with a GUI, I tend to use pine. At work I do use thunderbird
together with davmail (sadly the company only supports a ms-only mail
environment).

> The search function is not as good as Kmail but in other respects it
> is comparable and doesn't give me all those crazy Akonadi messages.

Nowadays I have managed to get rid of all the error messages from Akonadi and
disabled the nepomuk (sadly I get messages at login that it's not enabled).
Now I'm in the thought of switching Akonadi to use sqlite instead of mysql,
but have other things I have higher priority as moving stuff to a new server.

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