On Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:02:51 AM UTC-4, J.O. Aho wrote:
> <tried to fix a one liner to a handful lines>
> > I will never understand why Hungarians want to name Romania... Hungary?
> That is a part of how languages and meanings change with time, like Rus
> (Finnic and sometimes Germanic leaders over Slavic tribes around upper Volga)
> become Russian.
> > Just take a look at the way they map Hungary and Romania. So childish... and disgusting(x).
> > How can you name/translate cities of Romania in 2 languages, but you do this only
> > for A PARTICULAR HALF of Romania? So, the city of Brasov, all of a sudden cannot
> > be spelled in 2 languages, it can only be Braso ("o" the last letter here has on the map
> > the Hungarian sign I believe, 'cause surely is not Romanian "o"). And no, there is
> > no misspelling, trust me. John from U.S.A now, will say, that is Hungary... or but,
> > hold on, oh yeah it is, yet, ??? Outrageous! Take a look at the map from Marble software,
> > developed by KDE, where some of them are Hungarians and you will understand what I say here. EU??
> > but only for a part of us! :) Why don't you do that for the Germans that settled in Romania?
> > Why don't you map other countries and/or cities in 2 languages?
> This has nothing to do with the KDE developers opinion, as the maps are
> provided by the OpenStreetMap, which works kind of like wikipedia, but for
> maps, so if you want things to change, then you need to join OpenStreetMap and
> give your input.
> > So, let me try and get it: there are no other Hungarian communities in other countries, EXCEPT Romania! Really??
> Maybe they don't feel themselves as Hungarians any more, but as Serbs or what
> ever and those don't supply the Hungarian name for their home towns.
> > KDE... sorry, but I don't need you anymore. You should take a close look at these type of
> > aspects sometime, and be impartial! What am I supposed to teach my kid:
> > well, the truth , some people just can't use it right. It's A MAP... why is politics involved here?
> > Why don't you map other cities based on their communities?
> As the maps are edited by humans, there will always be politics involved, just
> look at wikipedia, there are times when there is wars about articles, one
> group want to have their story as the true one and another wants that it's
> their story which will be the true one, this leads to the article to be locked
> until someone can solve the issue.
> As KDE don't have loads of money, they can't afford to spend 1000000000 USD
> (this is an assumed value of Ovi Maps) on generating their own map service
> with accurate information which isn't affected by peoples views of how the
> maps should be.
> There are alternatives, if you dislike how things are in Marble as it uses
> OpenStreetMap, then use GoogleEarth instead which can be found for the major
> operating systems as long as you use x86/amd64 architecture.
> --
> //Aho
Here things are clear. 1+1=2 And I don't need to join a group there for this aspect.
And so the Marble Map is affected by people's views.
I was naive to think that a good thing can be scientific across the entire spectrum. None of these countries are tribal anymore.
