Windows size

jaakov

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Jun 10, 2011, 4:53:58 AM6/10/11

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Dear all:

I need to know the sizes of Windows (measured in terms of the number of
control flow locations of the code, or the number of functions of the
code, or the size of the code tree, or in terms of sizes of installation
sets, or in terms of full install sizes on the hard drive) from its
birth onwards. Could anyone help?

Best regards
Jaakov.

Dee Earley

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Jun 10, 2011, 5:13:18 AM6/10/11

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From what point of view?
Unless you have the code or debug files, function information is pretty
much lost.
Seeing as you gave 5 different things you wanted, can you be more
specific on what you're actually trying to achieve.

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jaakov

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Jun 10, 2011, 5:58:52 AM6/10/11

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On 06/10/2011 11:13 AM, Dee Earley wrote:
> On 10/06/2011 09:53, jaakov wrote:
>> Dear all:
>>
>> I need to know the sizes of Windows (measured in terms of the number of
>> control flow locations of the code, or the number of functions of the
>> code, or the size of the code tree, or in terms of sizes of installation
>> sets, or in terms of full install sizes on the hard drive) from its
>> birth onwards. Could anyone help?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Jaakov.
>
> From what point of view?
> Unless you have the code or debug files, function information is pretty
> much lost.
> Seeing as you gave 5 different things you wanted, can you be more
> specific on what you're actually trying to achieve.
>

Dear Dee:

The actual functionality is different from the low-level viewpoint, but
is the same (or has extended) from the the high-level viewpoint:
providing the very basic tasks, like editing and printing letters. I
would be happy if anyone could provide the evolvement of any of the
parameters over time (ideally, since 1985):
- number of code locations
- number of C functions in the code
- size of the code directory
- size of the installation sets
- size of the full install on a hard drive.
I'm just curious - the information is hard to find!

Jaakov.

Hans-Peter Diettrich

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Jun 10, 2011, 7:14:53 AM6/10/11

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jaakov schrieb:

> I need to know the sizes of Windows

Since Windows is closed source, you better ask Microsoft for such
information.

Or get an disassembler and start counting yourself...

DoDi

jaakov

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Jun 10, 2011, 7:39:31 AM6/10/11

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But sizes of installation sets or sizes of full installs on a hard drive
should have been available at different time points in the past. I just
can't find them.

Rob

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Jun 10, 2011, 8:15:30 AM6/10/11

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Google 'windows minimum requirements'
First two hits at ms give minimum free HD space for XP as 1.5GB and for
Windows 2000 as 650MB, for instance.
HTH
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Rob

jaakov

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Jun 10, 2011, 12:20:46 PM6/10/11

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> Google 'windows minimum requirements'
> First two hits at ms give minimum free HD space for XP as 1.5GB and for
> Windows 2000 as 650MB, for instance.
> HTH

Actually, I want to have a measure of the complexity of the code over years.

Unfortunately, the minimum requirements also include a significant
amount of space for the temporary files and the swap, which I wanted to
avoid counting, if possible.

Jaakov.

Hans-Peter Diettrich

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Jun 10, 2011, 11:12:59 PM6/10/11

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jaakov schrieb:

You may want to find out people with an MSDN license, which have
retained all the released distribution kits. It may be legal [depends on
license contracts and local law] that these people will sell you all
these media, so that you can analyze everything yourself. Otherwise
you'll have to ask them for figuring out the interesting information for
you, what may become quite expensive...

You also can look for people which have retained the media for older
Windows releases, obtained individually or together with a machine.

In either case it may be hard to find virtual or real machines, that
allow to install older distribution kits (VMWare goes back until Win98,
at least). Without such a machine it may be hard to extract even the
binary files for further analysis.

But why must it be Windows, at all? There exist so many open-source
systems under version control, from which it is much easier, cheaper and
perfectly legal, to obtain your figures.

DoDi

jaakov

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Jun 11, 2011, 8:47:04 PM6/11/11

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Hmm, those suggestions above are actually a lot of work.

What system exists in open source for 25 years? An aside: the figures
for Linux are not easier to obtain either.

Jaakov.

Hans-Peter Diettrich

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Jun 12, 2011, 12:44:43 AM6/12/11

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jaakov schrieb:

> Hmm, those suggestions above are actually a lot of work.

Right :-(

> What system exists in open source for 25 years? An aside: the figures
> for Linux are not easier to obtain either.

Right.

It depends on what you want to know, for what general or special purpose.

I've tried to contact you by PM. A friend of mine eventually can provide
the required material - depends on further clarification.

DoDi