'Windows Live Mail' for USEnet use?

[no.to...@gmail.com]

I was forced to buy a Win7 PC because my wireless modem doesn't run
under *nix. So I thought I'd look at the 'Windows Live Mail' for USEnet use.

What a load of crap, compared to Forte-agent that W3.1 had 15 years ago.

I've got the Win7 thing running while I'm typing this on a proper system.

Q1. how do I delete a message after I've read it?

Q2. can I delete a whole thread?

Q3. can the 'number of new headers to d/l' be changed from the
default of 300?

Q4. can I 'mark' headers, while off-line, to fetch the corresponding
bodies, for several groups, when I go on-line?

==TIA.

[Auric__]

no.to...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was forced to buy a Win7 PC because my wireless modem doesn't run
> under *nix. So I thought I'd look at the 'Windows Live Mail' for USEnet
> use.
>
> What a load of crap, compared to Forte-agent that W3.1 had 15 years ago.

If you don't like it, switch to something else. Agent's still around, Xnews
still works, etc.

--
I hacked Microsoft's network and all I got was this lousy source code.

[Brian Cryer]

<no.to...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:irthmf$ibg$1...@dont-email.me...

>I was forced to buy a Win7 PC because my wireless modem doesn't run
> under *nix. So I thought I'd look at the 'Windows Live Mail' for USEnet
> use.
>
> What a load of crap, compared to Forte-agent that W3.1 had 15 years ago.

I agree that its not very good. I'm currently using Windows Mail (previous
version) which isn't much better. Unfortunatly with Microsoft abandoning
their own newsgroups they seem to be abandoning their tools as well. I've
tried a few but haven't yet found anything that works for me as well as
outlook express used to.

> I've got the Win7 thing running while I'm typing this on a proper system.
>
> Q1. how do I delete a message after I've read it?

Try the delete key. Personally I don't delete messages, I just leave them
highlighted if unread and non-highlighted once read.

> Q2. can I delete a whole thread?

Again, the delete key.

> Q3. can the 'number of new headers to d/l' be changed from the
> default of 300?

Yes. Windows Live Mail (top left) > Options > Mail > Read > Under "News" you
have the option to set how many headers to get at a time.

> Q4. can I 'mark' headers, while off-line, to fetch the corresponding
> bodies, for several groups, when I go on-line?

Don't know, sorry. I only used it on-line.

You might get a quicker response to queries if you post to the right
newsgroup. Try microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop.

Hope this helps.
--
Brian Cryer
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

[Rob]

Don't use it for usenet, it cannot be configured properly (eg
won't quote properly, for a start.)
There are plenty of decent news readers around - I'm using one
(see header.)
HTH
--
Rob

[Alf P. Steinbach]

As far as I know Windows Live Mail is the same program that used to be
called Outlook Express.

If so then the old utility "OE QuoteFix" may still work to fix up the
worst excesses of bad behavior.

Perhaps worth trying.


Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

[VanguardLH]

Alf P. Steinbach wrote:

> As far as I know Windows Live Mail is the same program that used to be
> called Outlook Express.
>
> If so then the old utility "OE QuoteFix" may still work to fix up the
> worst excesses of bad behavior.

OE-QuoteFix is an extension to OE. Before Microsoft decided to drop
support for OE extensions, there used to be an API manual on it. When
MS dropped OE extensions, the manual disappeared (but suspect you can
find it somewhere on a non-MS site). MS dropped it because they
considered it flaky and they were already abandoning OE (support ended
back in 2002 when the dev team disabanded with just some security
patches applied up to 2006).

Since OE-QuoteFix was designed as an extension to OE using an
undocumented API, it only works with OE. Extensions using the
undocumented API won't work for other programs, like WLM.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/requirements.html

I've seen mention there is an API for WLM but it is undocumented, too.
See:

http://www.nektra.com/services/addons
"Windows Live Mail" section

Nektra provides their own APIs for OE and WLM. Their OEAPI and WLMAPI
products start at $1000 so obviously not for the casual or freeware
plug-in author. I suspect they bring out and document the otherwise
undocumented MS APIs along with bringing in their own functions. They
mention their OEAPI will also work with Vista's Mail but they sell their
WLMAPI separately. Since OE used database files (.dbx) versus WLM that
used an indexing database but keeps the items as separate files using
the file system as its "database" records, I really doubt the OE API (MS
or Nektra) can be used with WLM.